Thanks. I will pass that on to my camping kids.
More Texas interest
Mibus, I hate to go on about Wal-mart, but I bought 2 mini roses from them just day before yesterday. I am on the houseplant trade robin. I looked on the web about them before I went and they said that there are usually 4 small plants in each pot. Well that is exactly what I got. All four are healthy. My trade partner will get one and I have three. The cost: $2.47 for the pot full of 4.
They had, pink, red, and cream. No names of the speices if that is important to you then it wouldn't be a good way to go. If pretty and healthy and fair is what you are looking for you can't beat the deal.
The standard for mini-roses is 4 to the pot.
However the roses I was so unhappy with from Chamblees were full sized named roses.
Here is a copy of how roses are graded. Had I known what I was getting I wouldn't have bought them at all.
Grafted roses are sold based upon American Nursery Standards grades 1,
1 1/2, and 2. Plants that are sold as own-root are not graded, so there is no real clear-cut standard. Size can vary from source to source. Chamblees roses are own-root grown and not grafted.
Standard Rose Grades
Grade 1 plants have three or more canes that are about 3/4 of an inch in diameter and have no more than 3-4 inches between the graft union and the top of the roots. They also have a large, well-developed root system. Grade 1 plants must be 2 years old when harvested from the field. These are generally premium-priced rose plants. Grade 1 1/2 roses have two strong canes and with care will catch up to Grade 1 roses. Grade 2 roses are the "bargain" or "cheap" roses. They are often plants with very small canes, often substandard, and are usually not worth the extra effort required to nurse them along. It is usually better to buy several Grade 1 roses each year than a dozen inferior plants that may never result in good garden specimens
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The "cheap" roses I bought from Wal-mart (not talking about the minis) were labeled grade 1. They actually met all the standards of grade 1 including the good root system. They were bare root wrapped in plastic and sealed with wax.
Not every plant I have bought from Wal-mart has been a good experience. As my experience is growing though, I am able to pick some that have been easy on my pocket book and easy to grow.
Mibus - never been to the Red Lion - but sounds good. I have been to the Black Labrador, though - another British Pub. Colors and animals for names... is that British? Thanks for starting the thread, by the way.
Glad to see the new names! Welcome, all. It took me about 2 years before I'd post anything, and now I'm glad I started. These folks are very nice and helpful, and now that I have made friends, it's been fun. I've learned a lot about many things on DG.
Well, of course.
Bookworm I posted on Garden Watchdog. I felt kind of weird posting the negative with such good positive comments there. I did it anyway though. I also posted a positive the the antique rose emporium. I love their roses and met one of the owners and took a short class from him. It was a learning experience.
Oh charlene I totally understand what you are saying
Sometimes you get a better deal at walmart or like places and it is easier on the pocket book by far.
Back in Illinois a number of years ago I had tried roses and ordered from Jackson & Perkins ...lovely roses but I could never get them to winter over so I quit. lol
Chamblee's is the only place I know of so far around here that grows roses but the girls at work have said there are maybe 2 other places BUT I can't afford to spend money on something that isn't' up to "standards" right now.
bookworm never heard of that one but I do email with one of the guys my daughter worked with ...he sends me jokes and I humor him with learning some British slang (he is British) but I will email him and ask him about the Black Labrador.
Now once I clean up from pulling weeds and get the itching to stop ...yeah I have poison ivy or oak..nice lil patch on my right arm in the elbow bend and yes I am using Epsom's salts and anti itch cream...and ice packs or hot water as hot as you can stand helps to stop the itching for awhile. ...read that on a site I had found and tried it ..lol
Told hubby no more clearing vines out back for me unless I have on jeans and long sleeves.
You have to be very careful with poison ivy, even with long clothes, if you are allergic to it it will get you, let a person who is not allergic eliminate it, or it can be really bad news.
I have heard that making a hole where the stem comes out of the soil and filling it with agricultural molasses will kill the roots. You might try that and see if it helps.
Josephine.
Yeah I know I should have been paying better attention to things the whole bend on my right arm is blisters and red ..serves me right
oh, gosh. I sure know how that feels. Can't even say the words xxxxxx xxx without being in a mess. Usually takes about 6 weeks for me to get over it.
gee I just love having dial up again...NOT
anyway I had started to post earlier but got kicked off then couldn't get back on.
I'm just lucky the biggest part is just on my arm at the elbow there are a few like 1 or 2 bumps on my right leg so I am wondering if maybe I actually got it when I was on the mower none the less no more out in the back near vines for now.
I remember having PI but lightly when I was a kid and I had PO once too on my face at my grandma's thinking it was a reaction to dove soap but it wasn't it was P oak.
It is warm to the touch though but as long as I stay cool I'm okay
If I could stay home from work I would but that is not an option as a day off is a day without pay.
I never made it to walmart as I had hoped so I am planning on going after work tomorrow afternoon to check out the garden center.
You probably know this....but JIC......DO NOT BURN POISON IVY. The spores get into the air and you breathe it in.....gets in your lungs and it can be fatal. It is a very insidious little plant. Got it on my tools helping my DD in her yard. A year later when I got the tools out......I got PI all over again. Go to google and check it out.
Yeah I have told him that over and over again not to burn it. I am planning on getting some spray to use to kill it off.
we had a small patch back in our yard in Illinois and that worked to get rid of it.
and I have been using HOT water with a lil bleach when I do laundry to hope to kill off anything on clothes.
There is something at the drugstores that will help. I'm braindead this morning. Just ask somebody and they will point you to it. Becareful of your tools as well. As you can see, I am paranoid about PI. Last case thought I was going to have to go the doc. My grandsons have to have cortisone shots for it.
I use Caladryl which is benadryl and calamine lotion. It seems to dry is quickly for me. Good luck.
Not approved my the AMA, but I have seen PI outbreaks cleared in 3 days with DMSO. FIL swore by it - piney woods of E. TX - got it every year.
I am not sensitive unless wet, but due to the humidity in most of TX, I'm always wet - lol.
Coach in JrHi had a brother that was a postman - he got it on his letterbag - after 3rd outbreak, had to buy a new bag - expensive, but no way to remove it from the leather.
We had vines here in Missouri City that were over 4" thick growing on trees by Oyster Creek when we moved here - channelizing it removed all the trees.
Ok what is DMSO?
I live in the Piney Woods of E Texas ...Heck there is a place down the road called Piney Cove LOL
I've been using straight Alcohol on a cotton ball dabbed on it at times, soaking in Epsom's Salts, 1% hydrocortisone cream (like benadryl) and today when I stopped at Walmart after work I picked up some Calagel that came with a small bottle of tecnu cleaner. The cleaner is suppose to clean the oils from skin, tools, clothes and pets.
I figure can't hurt to give it a try.
Tecnu.....that's what I was trying to remember.
I think you can get DMSO from a health food store.
I have some of that but I can't remember why I bought it. Not for poison ivy. I just remember it burns when you use it.
It's available at the feed store or vet. Used on animals for injuries. Old timers used to use it for arthritic joints. FDA doesn't approve but I don't remember why ~ sorry
DH told me in scientifc terms and I asked him to translate. DMSO penetrates the skin nearly instantly and carries any chemical substance on your skin into you and into your bloodstream. We never let our sons use it when they were in high school athletics, although some of their friends did.
I don't get it. If it carries chemicals into your bloodstream, why would the health food store sell it? I wish I could remember why I bought it. BTW tell your DH I said "hi".
Thanks, I'll tell him "hi." I remembered the DMSO because it was an issue with our younger son. A friend of his who ran long distance races used it. If there's nothing harmful on the skin, there's no problem. But people are not always careful. If, for instance, someone had sunscreen or insect repellant on at a track meet and applied the DMSO, the chemicals on the surface of the skin go into the body. I can see why it would not be approved by the FDA but still be sold. DMSO alone is not dangerous, but people can make it so by being careless.
So how could that help poison ivy?
That's kind of what I wondered... it could take the PI oil deep into your system ~ Heaven forbid!
I am wondering the same thing so am doing a search for info on it
wow alot to read on this DMSO
here are a couple of links I read
http://www.dmso.org/subLevels/what.htm
http://myhealth.ucsd.edu/library/healthguide/en-us/Cam/topic.asp?hwid=hn-2839006
Hi Ya'll! I haven't been able to post much this summer due to my Mother's heart surgery. I noticed when I did get a chance to come here and read not many Tx. gardeners were chatting. Made me wonder what the problem was. Heck I miss everybody. LOL
Hi Charlene! You are my neighbor to the north. I have family that live in Centerville. So nice to have you here.
Hi Dancey, ya'll come on up and see me when you come see your family. Centerville is only 25-30 minutes from me.
I love DG I have learned a lot and made lots of new friends.
whooo hooo ...happy here is what that means lol...we have pecan trees!!!!!
I know not real exciting for those native Texans but for a transplant it is.
I walked the yard when I got home to take some pictures of the trees I am asking about in another thread for Texas gardening and low and behold I found pecan trees too.
have to do some studying up on them too now.
but I also took some pictures of a few other things I am wondering about.
2 are in the "terrace" so I know they are flowers of some kind but not sure what...will post them both in here.
And the others are not sure
So the next few posts will be the pictures
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Hi Mibus and Welcome to Texas!!! It's so nice you have pecan trees. I used to have pecan trees at another home. None here at our present home. But we do have Live Oaks and many many more different kinds of Oak trees. One pretty Elm tree out next to the driveway. The Elm has pretty colored leaves in Fall.
Somebody mentioned Prickly Pear cactus earlier. We have a few of those out at the edge of our pasture fence. I don't mow them down as I do love the blooms in spring.
Hi Dancey and Thanks!!
we have alot of oaks too and winged elm and I'm sure others too just don't' knwo the names of all of them yet ...alot to learn, plus peach trees.
I mentioned the prickly pear as we found some out back in the over grown area and I moved them closer to the house so I would have the blooms where they can be seen.
Here is the page I made and posted in the id forum when I first joined in August..it shows just how much stuff we have here and I ma still finding more
www.ladies-of-the-heart.org/Phyllis/plants.html
Mibus your #1 plant looks just like my border grass (mondo grass). Mine makes a real thick border and mid summer has lavender colored stalky like blooms.
I'm wondering if your #2 picture is a Crinum lily. Not sure but it sort of looks like mine. http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/f/pdb/all/
Wow you have a lot of the same plants I have. Some I can't even identify. I do wish I had a native Azalea. I love your Maple tree. I think it's probably too hot here in zone 8b for the Maples unless I put one in a pot so I could move it around for shade.
Picture 2 sort of looks like a daylily to me or maybe a crinnodonna. Not sure. I think picture 1 is liriope.
No 1 is definitely the seeds on Liriope ~ mondo grass ~ monkey grass. It can spread by seed as well as roots. I do like the short lasting purple blooms.
I believe your second photo is a Crinum ~ which one will be hard to tell till it blooms. This photo shows the foliage on two different Crinum. If you notice, the one if front with the red buds has a slight wave to the edge of the leaf. The one in back does not. Your photo appears to have that same wave to the foliage.
