Blue Picotee Split

Many of you may remember the Blue Picotee - Messenger Saga. For those not familiar with it, here are some links:

http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/p.php?pid=2793821

Anyway, this year I planted the last 5 seeds of the original batch of seeds which starred in the above saga. After determining later on it wasn't the Messenger that caused the deformities, I wasn't too surprised when one of the plants started throwing out split flowers again. It is actually quite beautiful and I hope it continues to carry on.

X

Nice! I had one of my Red Star nils that started out throwing split flowers (but not doubles like yours).

Pretty! I do love those bi-colors. On the Picotee which mostly produced singles, the flowers that split on me were always doubles. I hope the next generation produces more split doubles.

X

I hope you can stablize the characteristic now that you know it wasn't Messenger causing it.

I'll do my best.

The F-2 growout of the Mini-Bar X Picotee was pretty much a repeat of the F1. The shape of the flowers have remained the Mini-Bar shape but the colors did vary to the Mini-Bar pink and the Picotee Blue and inbetween. Out of 6 plants only 2 had varigated leaves.

X

This message was edited Sep 10, 2007 6:45 PM

X, did any of your Mini-Bar X Picotee F2 plants have the small stature of the Mini-Bar? If so, what colors were the flowers and what type of leaves did they have? I'm particularly interested in this type of MG's!

Arlan

Glad to see you back here, X - you were missed. And am especially delighted to see all this work and explication of genetics. Thank you.

Karen

Thanks Karen, it's been a long hard summer for me. Wasn't able to do much gardening or take many pictures. I lost 60% of my vision due to bleeding inside both eyes. It was like looking out a very dirty window.

My vision started improving exponentially about 2 weeks ago. I still have a lot of clots, but looking at computer screens or going outside on a bright sunny day is bearable now.

X

X, So glad you are back.

Next time your grow out will be larger for more possibilities of getting more choices. The variegated leaf is recessive to solid and some of your plants will carry for that trait. In my grow outs such as this it took about 30 or more plants to turn out one double shredded vine. I`m not stating that as a rule but it is what happened with my own grow out of a kikyo double shredded crossed with a round flower F2 grow out. These vines have single, partial double, double and shredded sterile flowers on the same vine.

Karen

X, the Blue Split Picotee is a beauty. Love it.

Thanks .. I love it too .. I will have seeds in a few weeks .. debating whether to go on and plant them and raise it in the greenhouse or wait til January to plant it.

X

Glad to hear you're feeling better. As a gardener and (sometimes) artist I can't imagine being without eyesight!

X, ditto Beth - very sorry to hear you had to go through that and hoping for continued improvement.

I don't know if you've read or heard about this, but there was a gardener/designer who was a major pathfinder in those areas. She never would have gone in that direction so totally if she hadn't lost a good bit of her eyesight. But what she did with color in her garden designs revolutionized Victorian gardening and rescued us all from those ribbon beds of isolated 180* straight lines of color. In a way, her poor eyesight facilitated her achievements with color in design.

Well, her designs involved a lot more than color - she had become proficient in quite a few areas of art and crafts up until her eyes became too problematic, and grew up in a millieu where "everyone" had gardens.

Anyone wanna guess who she was? I'll give free Ipomoea purpurea 'Indigo Feathers' to the first one who gets it right. Y'all can ask me for hints.

Was she in New Mexico the last years of her life?

ooops, got so excited I forgot to welcome you back here. to the MG forum.. a Big Welcome..
A.

Nope - are you thinking of Georgia O'Keeffe? http://www.ellensplace.net/okeeffe1.html

Our mystery gardener/garden designer par excellence lived in England.

Yep,,, she lived in my backyard of sorts when I was a child. I didn't know much about her though, all the people there thought she was a communist...
A.

I don't know anything about her political leanings, but it seems to me that the word "communist" gets used as a blanket term for whatever some folks don't understand, sometimes. A dedication like hers to art can be isolating which isn't very helpful to community relations. Blindness didn't stop her - she switched media from painting to sculpture and kept on going. And perhaps the blindness was further isolating. Heck, just being different is a crime in some places.

Did you ever get to meet her, A?

Gertrude Jekyll?

Patootie - yes! When Indigo Feathers' pods ripen, I'll send you some. Here's her book on Roses - http://www.rosarian.com/jekyll/roses/

I think a lot of what she advises about roses applies to morning glories - you want to grow them flowing around your tootsies, burgeoning on tee-pees, surging up into magnolias and hanging back down in great swags, gracefully draped over arbors and pergolas, demure & petite in pots. And giving MGs companions and context brings out fascinating qualities otherwise hidden - imo.

X & others on this thread so far, I think I'll have enough seed to go around. If anyone else would like some, let me know, but it'll be later this fall before I know for sure how much I'll actually have.

Thanks to all for the warm welcome back. I've missed a lot. The hardest part about the whole episode was the loss of detail in the world. As most of you know from my photography .. I love detail! Lol.

X

Thanks Karen.

Jackie

Karen-blue - "...blanket term for whatever some folks don't understand, sometimes. A dedication...can be isolating which isn't very helpful to community relations... kept on going....perhaps..blindness was further isolating.... just being different is a crime in some places...."

Cheers and Thanks to all the innovators who prefer to break(!) the mold rather than fit it...

TTY,...

Ron