Ron told me what this one was when I posted a photo of just the leaf.(thank you!).
It bloomed for the 1st time this morning....exciting!
Here'a photo, (photo edited) to try and show the correct color since the camera captures it more of a purple instead of the pink/fuschia color it is...
Here's the color the camera captures....
Sandy - very nice looking bloom...the color is nice and rich...the petals are also nicely split all the way down to the throat whereas the Yoneda site mentions 2 that have shallow splitting
http://protist.i.hosei.ac.jp/Asagao/Yoneda_DB/E/PCD2523/htmls/16.html
http://protist.i.hosei.ac.jp/Asagao/Yoneda_DB/E/PCD2523/htmls/17.html
Very Spiffy(!)...
Ron
Sandy - Love the magenta color and the perfect splits! I find my camera sometimes does that too depending on the angle I took the photo or the sun reflecting off the blooms! Annoying, isn't it!? lol
Wow, Sandy! I love the color. Would you be saving seeds?? I'd love a few if you can spare them.
Sandy
WOW
Love it
Emma
Double that WOW!!! Great job... I hope it makes lots of seeds!! ☺
Sandy,
very nice, it reminds me of one of the clematis flowers. Hope it sets seeds for ya..
A.
I like it too! And I hope it sets seeds...the nights are getting chilly here....glad ya'all like it!
A - I almost said that too about Sandy's blooms resembling a Clematis flower. It really does look similar! (I didn't know if such a comparison would offend any MG lovers here!) Glad to know I wasn't the only one who was thinking that! :-)
Becky, I gotta tell ya... next year will be something... my plan:::
to plant several other vines in with the MGs.. right now I've got some Clitoria, Astrolocia, Pea vine and a couple of other butterfly host plants mixed in with them..
Sandy, you may have to take it in at night.. that will work for awhile.
A - I hear ya! I have been working on a new backyard cobblestone patio for the past 6 weekends and will be finally finished with this backbreaking work next weekend. I have plans to add a white vinyl 4' tall picket fence around it with an arch for an entrance out into the backyard. I have this image in my head of MG vines, sweet autumn clematis, and maybe even some climbing roses all growing together on the fence and arbor! Don't know if it's a possibility here for me or not .... but I can dream, can't I?
This message was edited Sep 8, 2007 9:21 PM
Sandy - I'd strongly suggest hand pollination to be sure you get the maximun amount of seeds from the hanaba...grab the stamens with a tweezers and brush the stigmas so they have a definite coating of pollen...
TTY,...
Ron
Hi Ron...will try! I've done the same with my daylilies the past couple summers... now I'll try the MG's. Is there an ideal time to do this? (the evening before the bud opens etc?)
Thanks!
Sandy those are great! I purchased it this year also...but disappointingly received something completely different! If you get extra seeds, I'd be interested in trading also.
Arlan
Sandy - The best 'time' is as soon as the flower has a receptive stigma and you have mature pollen ready...
I usually wait until the flowers open...sometimes I'll induce early opening by exposing them to a bright light...but also best done before the flowers starts to 'fade'...e.g., before 10am...
TTY,...
Ron
The cooler weather has definitely changed the color of the blooms. There are about eight flowers open today. I've been finding however that the flowers are not producing any pollen during this later bloom season. I got one pod to set earlier, but nothing more than that. Any suggestions on how to encourage pollen production?
I am all ears on an answer to your question Sandy! I may be dealing with the same situation soon. Maybe Ron will have some input on this.
Oooooh I luv it! Gorgeous color and the shape of the leaves....so cool! Seedsower where did you find seeds for it?
:) Donna
Love all the variations of bloom color on this vine! What a KEEPER! Love it!!!
Sandy - If the temperatures have changed and gotten cooler which hass resulted in lower pollen production then resuming to the temperature where pollen was being produced might do the trick...
Do you have this outside(?!)...might need to bring it inside(!) at night like I have to do with assorted types of mine...
Make sure the plant is well hydrated and give it a shot of phosphorus bloom booster but not too much...(!)
You need to start putting pollen aside from the blooms that produce if you haven't already been doing that...
When a bloom produces good pollen be sure the stigma gets fertilized and then clip out the remaing stamens and place them on a plastic plate indoors...use the pollen when other blooms open with no pollen production...the pollen will stay white and fully hydrated for a couple of dayus and then gradually turn a yellow color and shrink down...the pollen is still good if yellowed and shrunken but harder to apply...
Be sure you have a set of very fine tipped tweezers...that's what I use...actually I have different gauges that I've acquired over the years that I use for different functions...ghet your tools together...the right tools for the right job is essential in this line of work...
it takes practice...
TTY,...
Ron
I am trying to picture the use of tweezers. I must be a bit challenged, because I am missing that point. Is there a link on-line that shows the use of tweezers close up? I know what needs to be pollinated (I think), but I wish someone would make a video of this and post on DG. I do better hands-on that visual descriptions, I guess.
This message was edited Sep 26, 2007 7:04 AM
I use my bare hands to pollinate the flowers. I pull out the anther and rub the pollen on the pistil. The tweezers work well to pull out the anthers but I got frustrated trying to pollinate with the tweezers and ended up learning how to pinch the broken end of the anther between my thumb and index finger. A few times(not recommending this btw!!) I have even held the anther in my mouth like a cigarette while untying the pod parent with no ill effects. I think mg are poisonous so I didn`t inhale. :)
(Just a bit of humor there...)
Check this out...again.
http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/732341/
Here is a word about those nose leaf hanaba JMG. Those have some of the funkyest pistils that curve downward some times almost back down inside the flower so you have to get the pollen underneath to pollinate it effectively. Some have normal pistils and anthers and some have wierd looking parts that still work with a little help.
I hope this helps! Karen
This message was edited Sep 25, 2007 7:03 PM
I'm totally hip to usage of natural digits to accentuate hand pollination of MG's...but with so many different species and variations in stamens,anthers,pistil,stigmas,flower size and shape...when fingers and fingernails work I use them and when tools like tweezers work even better I use them...
I'll probably link back to this in a few years just to show that I did mention it...
I don't forsee me doing any videos anytime soon but if I do I'll share...
Practice makes perfect...just do it and keep doing it and you'll pick up on what works best on your own...
TTY,...
Ron
This message was edited Sep 26, 2007 1:46 AM
Hi Ron...just thought I'd update you regarding your advice on the hand pollination. It looks like I have about a dozen pods that have set...now if I can only keep this thing going until they ripen!
Thanks for your help (again!)
Sandy
Wondering how long now until these pods will mature? If I had a dozen or so pods set by mid October (why does that seem so long ago?)...will it be another couple of months before they're totally ripe?
I now have the plant in my den in an east facing window. It's still producing buds and blooms and I've been using some of the pollen to dab on a few other cultivars I've brought inside. If those crosses take, what are my odds of the pods ripening to maturity considering the dwindling daylight and the plant being indoors?
Thanks!
Sandy, I have variable results as far as how long it takes for nil pods to ripen. In cooler weather it can take months...but in the hot summer they ripen in about 30 days.
Sandy - That's a really good question!! I'd really be interested to know that information myself since I am considering growing some indoors when the temps start dropping here.
Oops we posted at the same time, Beth. Thanks for the info!
This message was edited Oct 29, 2007 7:09 PM
