My Jap. Morning Glory

ipomoea yojiro x ukijumo
+ yojiro x yoji t. Fuji
Morning glory on the back fence.

makshi,

It is pretty and looks like a purple kikyo. The leaves are interesting looking like yellow green whirlpool leaves too. I like it. You sure it isn`t from a stray seed or you could have done the classic label switch?

It doesn`t look like any of the varieties you mention. But then being very mixed according the parentage and especially if it was open pollinated you could get many different looks over several generations.

Karen



This message was edited Sep 1, 2007 4:48 PM

Hi Karen-05,

I have 3 vines growing from your F2 picotee mix of I. youjiro x Ukigumo and I. youjiro x Mt. Fuji, and although their buds are not yet open, the leaves of one of them look just like the leaf in Makshi's photo. I sent her some seeds on 2/20/07, but I don't know which ones. However, when sharing seeds last winter, I tried to include something special with ones more commonly grown, and your seeds seemed to me to be wonderful genetic mysteries. So, I think it's highly possible Makshi's MG might have come from your cross, since that was what I wrote on the label.

Waving to Makshi - whether or not this flower is what I think it may be, many thank yous for posting it here - very lovely.

Karen-blu

edited to take out "less esteemed" since no MG deserves that description

This message was edited Sep 2, 2007 8:46 PM

The picotee was a reference to a kikyo flower. Ron corrected me and I worked on not automatically associated a kikyo with the word picotee. learned it wrong and needed to "unlearn" it and learn it right. It is easy tolear once you have the reallt correct information in front of you.

I did use a kikyo lavender with yellow green whirlpool leaf for this one. What makshi has is a (hello again) throw back from the kikyo flower possibly.


Now Yes it is very possible this could come from a kikyo/youjiro combination. Here is another one I have grown out. I did use a kikyo lavender with yellow green whirlpool leaf for this one. I got this one by selecting one very cool one out a lot of nice but not nice enough to keep flowers. Check it out.

This morning I found a lavender one with the white icing and it obviously has the color coming from the lavender kikyo used in the first cross.

So these seeds I sent out were grow out seeds that were worth picking through t see if you could get something worth growing again.

Keep us posted if you get anything else you like. :)

I only know I had 2 seeds sent to me and this was the label on them.

Thanks Makshi. Also, thanks for putting up with my self-created muddle for not keeping better records of what I give away.

Karen-blu

This message was edited Sep 2, 2007 2:59 PM

makshi,

This one appears to have some doubling and if you watch it you may see some flowers with more petals in the middle. This kind of flower has some with few petals in the middle, a cluster of petals in the middle and some single blooms that are good at making the seeds all on one vine.

bluespiral, The error could have my own mislabeling of the seed packets. I`m new at this and was learning. I`m still learning and improving as time goes on. Still, anyone can mislabel a seed packet. This is part of the reason sellers give refunds...just in case you know ? We are humans.

Karen

lol - just before clicking on this thread I dmailed Makshi that if there were to be a contest about who was making the most boo-boos around here that I think I might win.

Really, if I had to choose between correct labeling and the incredibly rich genetics of the MGs being grown and crossed around this forum by various flower-alchemists, I would take the incorrect labels any time. In this case, as I was also just remarking to Makshi in our dmail, the flower speaks for itself better than any label could.

Anyhoo, I belatedly discovered a flower on the vine with leaves like Makshi's this afternoon in our garden, and - yup - same flower with some doubling in the middle. I will eventually try to get a pic in here - DH's artist's easel makes a great tripod.

karen-blu

Here is another picture of it. Looks about the same.

Gardener2005 & Makshi, mine is finally blooming. Here's a pic from a few days ago. Now, they are very double, and I need to take more pics to show the difference.

The other seedling from the same batch still hasn't bloomed and has woolly-ish, gray-green, slightly twisted/cupped leaves with middle lobe kind of narrow & elongated. Very intriguing. Gard05, did anyone get anything like that, too? What sort of genes can you tell at this stage it might have?

Gorgeous. Now these "very double" ones, will not produce seeds with this flower, right?

I have one that has produced,single,semi double and very double infertile on the same vine and it has thin variegated leaves. I`ll show pictures if I ever get time to get them downloaded.

Karen

Makshi,
These are really outstanding,

Karen, that one is really unique and probably 100 steps forward in the platycodon crosses.
A.

This is the one I found recently. It has green variegated leaves and single,semi double and sterile shredded flowers like this one all on the same vine. Karen

It seems a bit bigger than my platycodons. I have another of them flowering today, this time it is a lighter blue, too. Well, looking at it again, it started out purple...must post a photo...


Martin

Today's platycodon...


Martin

You plant them and they do their own thing don't they?

These are F2 grow out seeds resulting from crosses of kikyo x youjiro and also kikyo x ukigumo which is a large flower. !!!

My results were lots and lots of various sizes of plain jane round flowers and you name it in colors of vines. There were some that called back to the kikyo parent and looked almost just like the kikyo and others that looked like kikyo on a variegated whirlpool leafed vine. Out of over 50 plants I found 3 or 4 worth tagging and saving including the dark blue one with the white icing. I almost missed that one because it was hiding under a big leaf/little plain blue flower sibling.

Karen

Karen are mine worth saving the seeds?

Absolutely! They are beautiful and you should save the seeds!

If you like it then it is worth saving seeds. If you don`t care for it then I would deadhead to prevent volunteers. If you do keep seeds then we could trade. I`d like seeds if you want to trade.


I save seeds if I like something. Everyone has different tastes and will pick different shapes and colors they like according individual tastes and preferences.

Karen

I'm really bad, I save every seed..lol..
A.

I save seeds from plants I like and the problem is I like practically all of them. :)

I save every seed I find also. It is an obsession. I don't know if it is good or bad. I would need a yard about 5 acre big to get some of all of them planted.