Dear friends, I am showing you two types of "Scarlett O'Hara" asking you to tell be which is real one....
Now this one, I believe, is not the real one...just look at the flower, it's a crimson red, the leaves do not belong to this one, they are Grandpa Ott's leaves, i.e. from another plant growing on the same trellis...
The leafes are heary, not heart-shaped. The stem bears red pigments. Seed-pod is growing upwards with long pointed sepals. Pods formed within a stunning short time of only two weeks, they are not yet ripe, but it won't take another week or so. Now, all these things are indicators of a JMG to me, ipomoea nil, unless I have completely misunderstood everything so far...
Now here comes the real McCoy, this one does have heart-shaped leaves, the sepals are short, seed-pods turn downwards, not hairy, no pigments in the stem...
But the flower is a weak pink, not scarlett...
It's the left flower, friends...
Lateral view to show you the sepals...
I would say that the flowers are small in comparision to JMGs. I have seen lots of commercial packets "called" Scarlett O'Hara. I'd be more than happy if you show me the REAL ONE...
I appologize for typos, "hairy" not "heary", asking you to tell me...probably some more...
Hi Martin, As I understand it, the real SOH is distinguished by a solid red throat and belongs to the species Ipomoea nil. My source comes from DG PlantFiles: http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/74/ , in which Ron explains this in his comment with a little history and in which Emma has posted a picture.
I think there's lots more useful information and smiles from all the comments on how to approach both SOH Not-SOH's there - have fun:)
Karen
Thanks for the link, Karen. So we can at least establish that it is a nil...
With or w/o red in the trumpet.
HI Martin. . .
Here is a Thread that goes into a lot of detail on SOH
http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/t/742110/
Emma
Hi Martin - The sepals in the photo here
http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/fp.php?pid=3920656
are those of an Ipomoea nil
Ipomoea purpurea on the left and an Ipomoea nil on the right
http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/fp.php?pid=3920659
http://davesgarden.com/community/forums/fp.php?pid=3920661
The Ipomoea purpurea looks like a
a light "Crimson Rambler"
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/showimage/83358/
or perhaps a "Pink Rambler"
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/showimage/139514/
Crimson Rambler is often offered as Scarlett O'Hara and many times the Ipomoea nil that is offered as SOH looks like
"WIne & Roses" as seen in the PlantFiles here
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/showimage/126682/
The best photo in the database that looks the closest to SOH is the one posted by Emma here
http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/showimage/88943/
We're all hoping for some nice solid red blooms out of the old stock that I shared with some of the other MG growers here on this forum...
TTY,...
Ron
Perhaps it depends on the digital camera a lot how colours turn out, and I am colour blind...lol . I perceive Emma's SOH as a strong pink, a bit like pink candy...
Is there anything in the files about colour dominance, i.e. blue dominant over red etc.
All I know is that a white with an ipomea is a (homozygote) recessive gene, so theoretically anything you cross with white will get the colour provided your colour is heterozygote (purely bred over some generations). But white is not necessarily always recessive in genetics...I am referring back to rabbit and guinea pig breeding, where you could have interesting new colours that pop up by crossing two phenotypal white animals...
Some may be bored a bit with the genetics, however, I believe one needs to thoroughly understand this in order to get what you want...Many people do, of course, almost subconsciously do the right thing when they select plants/animals for breeding...but chances are 50 to 50 to do the right thing...
Here is my SOH Not. Karen
