Need ID on Philo

Well I am usually the guy giving out the names but this philo has me stumped. I know it has one name but I have sense lost it. That name was given to it by a good friend of mine. Has anyone else seen got a name for it. I thought it maybe a hybrid with Florida Beauty variegata and panduriforme. But later I saw another philo with similar leaves non variegated that was told to me to be a species I am not completely sure it is. If so it maybe a very old natural hybrid with something similar. Thanks for any help.

Brian, I do'nt know the name but I would love to have two of them, with or without a name! Jerry

I doubt this will help, Brian..... it has the Florida Beauty:
(write things down, it doesn't get any better as birthdays come and go, lol)
http://www.rareplants.com/abg/index22.html

AuntB that was a hit below the belt. That writing down part only happens when you start getting older.

SCHa-WING! Batterbatterbatter! AH! Linda! Humans start getting older, the minute they are born... ;) I tried to join the red hatters club here, but was not accepted........they said I didn't LOOK old enough! Ha! LOL
No offense meant, to anyone.... Brian, I know you are a young man, and I've also seen your place and know you have a lot of stuff to remember; which and what seeds were planted where and when, who were they crossed with, etc. so, ya need to write stuff down..... (then remember where you wrote it down at). Love that variegation, though. Hope someone has an idea for you.

I like it also and would love to have one. Let us know if you find out what it is, and WHEN you are going to have some ready to sell.

Ooooh what a beauty.

Brian, I just saw this thread for the first time. From the looks of it, that plant is not a Philo; I have one climbing up to the top of one of my tallest Royal Palms. It is what most people call Pothos, but what was really called Scindapsus, and apparently is now called Epipremnum (whew!). Mine are so large that the leaves begin having natural splits in them like Monstera does. Other Epipremnum species also have splits, but usually show them when younger. It's hard to be sure from your picture, but is it the white variegate ("Marble Queen") or the yellow, more common one (aureum)?

That one you have there looks like it has 'ears', do you have a pic of the stalk of the plant?

Also, if anyone wants some of what I have, I chop it back regularly; the vining stalks can get almost as big around as my wrist, and the plants tend to go green after a while. Just let me know . . .

Check out this link:

http://www.houseofplants.co.uk/Epipremnum_aureum.htm

LariAnn

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The leaves on Brians looks a lot larger then the ones at House of Plants.

Of course they do, because the leaves get larger as the plant matures. Some of the leaves on mine are now over 3 feet long, but the starting leaves were but a few inches long!

Sounds like it would be a very interesting plant. It does sound like it is like a EE. Where each new leaf gets larger.

Lariann I am positive it is a philo not Epipremnum. The leaves never gets cuts or +holes in them and their are no fibers to the plant which the Epip are know for. Here is a better pic of the plant. I believe it is a Philo Florida beauty variegata crossed with Philodendron bipennifolium. I just don't have any proof or idea who did the cross.

Brian, that IS a beauty, Florida or anywhere.

Makes me kinda sorta want to learn about breeding plants! That is one Gorgeous Philodendron! I'm a sucker for any plant with variegated foliage!

I'm with you plantladylin about plants with variegation

I'm with ya on breeding plants! I wanna get my fingers on that oozy gooey seed pod jelly stuff and tweeze out the seeds and see what I can produce! lol (I like the variegated ones too) Hi Linda, is it storming down there this morning?

No storms yet. I did go out and water just in case we don't get any rain. It is real cloudy, but that doesn't mean anything for her. Let ya know if and when it starts to rain.

Aunt B: I know you were asking Linda in S.C. and I'm a Linda too! We are having some much needed rain the past week or so here in Central Florida! Don't need these high gusty winds though! I think there will be lots of beach erosion from the winds/high tides on the East Coast of Florida. The news showed Cocoa Beach area last night and Turtle Eggs that were smashed from the high tides. :( Haven't heard of any damage to sea turtle nests in Daytona so far.

I am really enjoying lurking on this forum .... especially enjoy all those beautiful plant photo's!! I'm a bit embarassed to tell this, but we had some EE's in the yard when we bought the house 32 years ago .... had hubby dig them up and throw them out because I was afraid they would harbor snakes! Now, after joining DG a year ago and seeing all these really Gorgeous plants I want them. We have black snakes in the yard now .... I just try to steer clear of snakes cause they scare me! Had two of the deadly coral snakes late spring this year ... I'm sure they were run out of their habitat because of major construction down the road from us!

Well ... Thanks again for all the lovely photo's! I really enjoy reading threads on this forum and seeing the wonderful plants everyone grows so well!

I would love rain (hostas need it) but NOT wind or hail.... May have to get my unemployed daughter out of bed to lay some stuff down and move others under the trees.... IF we get a bad one. Thanks, Linda. She didn't water for me yesterday and my hibs were crying when I got home yesterday... we got a little rain Sunday - she figured everything was okay - (it got pretty hot in the afternoon). If (when) she's back out on her own, I'll probably have to set up a drip system on a timer or something... (youngest went to Kstate this year - I thought I'd be lonely!)

Hi Linda, Plantladylin! I was wondering what your birth name was! I've seen you on other forums. Nice to (officially?) meet you. You should get some more ears, I'd love to be able to leave them in the ground. (but the snakes...... black is okay, but not coral!) Pop in with questions/ideas, we love enabling, I mean helping people learn about these cool plants! I'm always curious about what our resident experts (and amateurs) are working on. Here's a Colocasia Pink China - (Brian's own) - It's hardy for him in KY and next winter I'm conducting my own hardiness experiment in 5b.... I had it in a pot this year, and it produced many new bulbs that I'll growing out under lights this winter, so I'll have plenty for a fair test in different areas of my yard. For you in FL, you may want ones that don't have runners, but in KS, whatever is left in the ground without protection is frozen.

Yep, my birth name is Linda. My hubby, one of my 3 sisters and a couple of friends call me Lin .... but I've been known as "Cookie Lady", "Cat Lady", "Plant Lady" and probably a few other things along the way. :)

I didn't know EE's grew by runners! I guess before I decide to plant some in the ground I had better do some researach first! I sure don't want anything with runners! Spent a few months this past spring cutting back Cape Honeysuckle, Boston Ferns and huge Asparagus Ferns. Grew back as fast as I could prune it. I just wasn't strong enough to dig it all up. Finally hubby hired a neighbor with one of those bobcat type machines to come in and get it all out! We had forgotten the true size of our backyard ... that stuff was so invasive it was growing from the fence out 20' in some places! There is still some of the Honeysuckle on the outside of our fence, we just keep pruning it along the fence line to keep it off of our property. Sure was pretty to look at but very invasive, it was killing out other plants and the honeysuckle had climbed way up into some of the trees. Our backyard isn't very large since we had a pool put in years ago ... it was slowly becoming a jungle of unwanted plants!

There are ones that pup right up next to the mother plant, not all reproduce by runners. I didn't want you to run right out and get any old ee, I wanted you to know because down there, the running kind can be invasive or at least hard to control. Let me see what I can find that would work for you, or anyone, let's get Lin started with some well-behaving ears! I know, Colocasia Thailand Giant - it would get huge for you, but it pups (1, one only one) on mine is right up next to it's mama, I'm going to sever the "umbilical" cord next spring and then I'll have 2 (or more if it gets more pups this winter). Alocasia might be more pupping than running... I'm really an addicted amatuer, someone help. (as I sit here thinking of my collection and what I'm getting pups not runners on) Brian? Jerry? LariAnn? Any of the Linda's??? :)

LariAnn-I agree with Brian that these are not pothos. In Hawaii, the pothos get over 3', like you described in Fla-they will actually kill a large tree as they totally take it over and cover it completely. But Brians leaves do not look like a pothos-which are bright yellow-never whitish as his are. These are shaped differently where the leaf meets the stem also.

It is kind of funny to see the small leafed pothos that are used as houseplants, knowing what monsters they turn into! It is hard to imagine how large those leaves get if you haven't seen them in person

AuntB Most of the Alocasias do not send out runners though I have a few that do. It is not very common in that group. As for Colocasias some are more spreading than others and some will produce runners if the situation is right. The Gigantea Thialand form does not but the common form of Gigantea does. The true form of Black magic will not run and many other forms as well. To many to really list.

Thanks Brian. I thought a lot of the colocasias produce runners, the p.china did in a pot and another one I got from you I had in the ground put out many runners this year. I was trying to suggest some to Lin in Daytona Beach that wouldn't produce runners and become a nuisance for her there.

Tigerlily,

Actually, at this point you and Brian are probably right, except about Pothos not coming in white. I have a tall Royal Palm whose trunk is covered with huge Pothos vines and it started out as what is known as "Marble Queen", which is a white variegation, not yellow. I've had some leaves that look almost exactly like Brian's pictures; that's why I asked to see the stem. Leaves can be quite variable but the stems on Pothos are radically different from the stems on vining Philos. The variegation pattern I have on my Pothos is the same as the variegation on Brian's plant, however; both are white.

This message was edited Oct 7, 2007 9:07 PM

Lariann,that sounds beautiful with it growing on a palm. Pictures, we need pictures!!! I want to see it!!!

Oh, rylaff, you want PICTURES? Ok, check this out!

Yes, and THIS . . .

And, (drum roll, please!) THIS!!

Wow, that is so amazing. I love it. Thank you for sharing. Woweeeeeeee.

Lariann: That is Beautiful! I see Pothos growing up trees here in the Daytona Beach area too, but nothing as Spectacular as that one!

AuntB, where are you? Aren't you supposed to be climbing this Royal Palm at the Big Ear Fest in Spring 2008? You should look it over, you know, get the lay of the land, and all that?

That is probably why she isn't on here, she saw it and sunk in her chair. From fright.

Oh, I been kinda busy... I've been going over elevation charts and planning strategies for my northerly route, up the monsterous thing..... For maximum camera/film exposure, and utilizing the growth pattern, I'm planning a spiral ascent, once I reach the summit, I should probably toss seed packets or something to mark the miraculous feat... (lol-imagining myself shimmying up- it would be a miracle as I'm acrophobic and not as shall we say, as nimble as I once was)

Oh, you should know that there are attack squirrels, giant cuban anole lizards, and maybe a raccoon or two up there in that foliage. You'll need to be prepared for them as you ascend!

Do'nt worry AuntB, i will climb that old palm and fight off any and all critters to get us some of LariAnn's variegated pothos! Count on it ! Jerry

LariAnn, is the photo Oct 13, 9:01 the same as the one growing up the palm?? And do you ever take cuttings??? I would love a start of that.
L

Yes, indeed, it is. I've taken a few cuttings before but as they grow they don't stay as large unless you can have them growing up a tree, a big post or totem. Without the climbing room, the leaves end up becoming as small as the ones that are grown in hanging baskets.

You are welcome to a start, though. If you are not coming to the Big Ear Fest in Spring 2008, perhaps you can commission someone who is to bring you back a start.

My neighbor has had pothos growing up a tree for at least the 17 yrs I have lived here.
The leaves are probably 3-4 ft long at the top. I have a wood privacy fence and have to be on guard for them attaching themselves to the fence as they get heavy and can do alot of damage. When the fence needed replacement last year, I threatened the neighbor to put up 6ft chain link instead of replacing the wood if he didn't keep the vines off. He's been fairly good but every once in awhile, I will see a leaf topping the fence and have to bring it to his attention. I like the vine on the tree but not tearing down my fence. LOL