Just wondering if anyone has had any experience with Lily Of Nepal
(Lilium Nepalense). I'm tempted to pull the trigger but pictures and
verbage in a sales catalog can be a little deceiving. Plus they seem
to be a bit pricey. Please supply the gentle nudge I need on this one.
New Lily For Me..
Have fun. They wander so if potting up, a large pot. One gal. won't cut it after the first year. This means, if planting, do not - repeat DO NOT dig near.
inanda who gave up with them.
I hear they need a dry winter. I dig mine, store in peat moss and refrigerate.
Thanks for the input. The spot where I envisioned them requires a plant of approx
4-5 feet. I don't think they get that tall. They appear so "regal" Oh well, I guess I
will just have to find another spot and give them a try. Thanks again to my neighbors
up north.
I have grown mine in a pot for 2 years now. Yes it is a big pot and I have wintered it under the house. I will try wintering it in a breezway between the garage and potting house this winter I think.... I don't want to lose it so may put it back under the house. Because of the price I haven't been brave enough to put it in the ground.
It is indeed a beautiful lilium, but is only about 18 to 24 inches tall with nodding flowers.
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You have been assimilated...
resistance was futile.. :)
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Hi
I don't want this thread to wander aimlessly so I thought I'd get in and out with a
couple quick questions.
1) What is meant in the description of a cultivar "NOT REGISTERED"? It must have
to do with licensing or patent rights is my guess.
1a) What does this mean to me?
The RHS (Royal Horticultural Society) registers lilies so that there is a record of them. An unregistered lily is just one that is not recorded with the RHS. It is the result of hybridization but the grower did bother to register it. It is usually given a "garden name". Many unregistered lilies are still very nice and garden worthy. Registering them keeps lilies from getting duplicate names -- such as Mona Lisa (there is an Asiatic and an Oriental).
Well that makes sense. Thanks much.
Does it cost to register? Just curious. It seems I have a lot of things whose beautful forms are not registered. Buggy doesn't register, does she?
No, Buggy doesn't register. I have no idea what it tales to register. I know the Dutch rarely bother... That is why there are so many duplicate names being used...
It seems like, if it were free, more people would take the time. It must be a process and cost of some sort.
Registration is free. But for a hybridizer who would otherwise be registering many cultivars every year it is a pain in the but. The form is 2 pages long with the 2nd page full of tedious details. If you are curious, here is the link.....
http://www.rhs.org.uk/plants/registerpages/lilyform.PDF
I truly appreciate those who take the time to register. I should add that it is not always the hybridizer who registers the lily. It could be some one else.
You mean that Buggy Crazy's Zeus and others from her are her own hybrids??/ Just like all the Alexes that I have and love - not registered. Think someone is thinking of registering them though.
Look at Easter Morn, been in catalogues and NALS shows for years, not registered. Amazing. I love it. Taller than me. About 6 or 7ft this year. George Slate was much taller though. Ditto Henryii.
inanda
I agree, there are lots of great lilies that are not registered. As you go through buggy's website, you will find their hybrids described as "seedlings" and usually some additional information about parentage. If "seedling" isn't mentioned, then I assume it is not their hybrid. They have, for example, done some considerable work with "Yellow Blaze" and have introduced some really nice offspring such as "Stunning", one of my favorites.
Fleur_guy ~ we don't mind wandering aimlessly, in fact, we do it quite well and end up in some wonderfully goofy places. :)
Pard,
I don't understand when you say
"I should add that it is not always the hybridizer who registers the lily. It could be some one else."
Does that mean someone else takes the credit for the creation, or how does that work?
~~Adding, I like the way these forums wander a bit, makes people's personalities come out a little more, I think :)
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As far as using that regitration form, that's why you hire a great office person. Lol!
You don't get into trouble, using a name twice, if it is already registered? Like the way inanda speaks of the Alexes. I think it would be strange, registering someone elses work. Don't you?
Lisa (Buggy Crazy) should register some of those beauties. Registered or not, they are some works of pollen art, don't you think? The Queen Strain comes to mind as some that I simply adore. Almost making me want to do a royalty themed garden. Think of all the possibilites, but then I'd have to move a bunch of stuff and that's no fun ;)
oooops, I wandered...
A properly filled out registration form gives everybody credit for exactly what they contributed to bring the lily to your garden. I believe the contribution categories are: Registered by (R)... Hybridized by (H).... Named by (N)... Grown to first flower by (G)... Introduced by (I)...
This system takes into account all possible contributors. Think for example: Someone gets seed from an exchange (hybridizer contributed it). They grow a seed out to flower but can't propagate or evaluate it so it is passed on to someone else. They evaluate it and decide it is good enough to name and introduce, and so on.
I heard it takes about 7 years from the initial hybridization to commercial availability.
pard, you're a wealth of information. It all makes sense and the system takes all that into account, which is great.
Thank you, Pard!
Great explanation, very clear now.
Does registration provide any other protections, like a plant "copyright" or patent?
The registration does not provide any rights or protections in any form that I can tell. It is simply an informational document. The status of patents/breeders rights is one of the questions asked, of course.