Cotoneaster

Fair Grove, MO(Zone 6b)

Something is eating my cotoneaster.

Dublin, CA(Zone 9a)

You'll have to give us a little more info than that if you're looking for suggestions of what to do about it :-)

Northumberland, United Kingdom(Zone 9a)

Check for escaped elephants.

Fair Grove, MO(Zone 6b)

No, no elephant tracks nearby. LOL

I don't see any bugs. I just find dead places on most of the limbs, mainly closer to the "trunk". The limb past the dead looking place is still green. The limb is brown and some cobwebs on it. I have spider mites on the other side of the garden (150' away) but this isn't like that is.

Dublin, CA(Zone 9a)

Might be fireblight, cotoneaster is in a family (Rosaceae) that's susceptible to it. A picture would really help though since there are probably other things that it could be too.

Lakes of the Four Se, IN(Zone 5a)

Rabbits? They will try to eat mine during the winter.

Fair Grove, MO(Zone 6b)

I thought of the camera when I was outside last night but was lazy in the 101 degree heat and didn't trek back inside to get it to take a picture of the Cotoneaster. Would Fireblight start at the center and work to the outside? How do you fix fireblight or do you?

Peggy

Dublin, CA(Zone 9a)

I don't think there's a cure for fireblight, and if that's what it is and you have other plants in your garden that are susceptible to it, your best bet would be to cut it down and get rid of it ASAP to minimize the chances of it spreading to something else. I've never had a plant with it so I'm not sure how the progression of the disease goes, your best bet would be to cut off a piece that shows the problem and take it to your county extension office, they should hopefully be able to identify the problem for you. But definitely don't go cutting it down until you show it to them--it could be something else entirely, it's hard sometimes to guess what the problem is even when you have a picture, and without one it's even harder so I could be way off base.

Fair Grove, MO(Zone 6b)

It looks like it has spider webs on it and it is brown from the trunk out. I sprayed some bug killer on it the other night so I will see what that does. I don't like bug killer especially that close to the pond.

Peggy

Dublin, CA(Zone 9a)

The spider webs are most likely not related at all to your problem. Spiders won't hurt your plants, in fact they'll eat some of the harmful insects that do eat plants, so I wouldn't spray them. Your problem doesn't sound at all like an insect problem, it sounds bacterial or fungal, so I don't think the spray is going to do much for you.

I would definitely cut off one of the dead parts and take it to your county extension agent and find out what it is. I still think it could be fireblight, or it could be something like Phytophthora or oak root fungus (aka Armillaria root rot), I believe that Cotoneaster is susceptible to both of those and it's definitely susceptible to fireblight.

Fireblight can spread to related plants that are in your garden so if that's what you have you definitely want to find out and remove the plant before it spreads to other things. Phytophthora and oak root fungus are carried in the soil so they won't have as much tendency to spread across the garden, but you'll have to be careful what you plant to replace the cotoneaster if it dies since any other susceptible plants that you put in that spot will also wind up with the same problem. (I don't think there's a cure for Phytophthora or oak root fungus either)

Fair Grove, MO(Zone 6b)

OK I'll quit being a lazy bum even if it is hot out and go get a picture. I think you guys will be more apt to help instead of my local extension center.

Dublin, CA(Zone 9a)

Honestly, I don't know that I could distinguish between the three things I suggested from a picture, all three look a lot the same. So I still think you might need to make the trip to the extension office! But it's definitely worth posting the picture first, it could turn out it's something completely unrelated to what's already been suggested.

Northumberland, United Kingdom(Zone 9a)

Quoting:
Would Fireblight start at the center and work to the outside?

No, the opposite - it starts at or near the tip of a shoot, and works its way down.

Resin

West Pottsgrove, PA(Zone 6b)

The 'looks like it has spider webs' description makes me think it might have a webworm. There is a Cotoneaster webworm...

Fair Grove, MO(Zone 6b)

Resin
It would have been easy if there were Elephant tracks, the poor thing might have sprung back up after that.

Northumberland, United Kingdom(Zone 9a)

Elephants are clever, they can cover their tracks to avoid detection . . .

But they don't make any webbing, so I think it is safe to count them out as a cause now.

;-)



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This message was edited Aug 16, 2007 8:59 AM

Fair Grove, MO(Zone 6b)

I went & got pictures, so maybe they will help

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Fair Grove, MO(Zone 6b)

here is another one

This message was edited Aug 15, 2007 8:00 PM

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West Pottsgrove, PA(Zone 6b)

Definitely not elephants.

Dublin, CA(Zone 9a)

I agree, doesn't look like elephants to me either!

Unfortunately I can't tell too much from the pics--are the leaves looking chewed on as well as being brown? If so then it's probably those webworms that claypa mentioned. If they're not chewed on, then it could be one of the fungal things I mentioned, but there's no way to tell which one just by looking at the leaves.

Fair Grove, MO(Zone 6b)

Sorry, sent the same picture twice.

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Northumberland, United Kingdom(Zone 9a)

Try giving the plant a good stiff brushing to clear away the webbing, then a blast with a pressure hose if you have one. That should get rid of any caterpillars with any luck. There's a risk this might attract elephants though, as they really enjoy a good hose-down.

Resin

Fair Grove, MO(Zone 6b)

As hot as it has been around here in the last 2 weeks, the elephants would have to wait in line for a hose down.

I will try some of your suggestions.

Fair Grove, MO(Zone 6b)

I was amazed the other day to see that my cotoneaster that looked DEAD is getting some green leaves back. All I did that one time was spray it for bugs. It's looking better so I bet that was an elephant that stepped on it. :)

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