I picked a few more between storms. The more we pick, the larger the remaining ones become.
Fuyus, ready to eat.
Bettydee
I have not tried freezing the pulp or drying the fruit. How do you dry the fruit? The tamopan is astringent until soft and at that stage it does not last long. I think that I will try freezing the pulp for use later. Mostly we give to friends and family until it‘s all gone. I pick the fruit as far up the tree as I can stand on a 10’ step ladder.
Trois
To my recollection the tree is between 15-18 years old and has survived hurricanes with the worst being hurricane Andrew.
Oldude
I have a dehydrator, but have only tried drying the Fuyu persimmons. The Fuyus are easy, just peel, cut into 3/8" slices and dry. ummmmmm yummy!
My dehydrator has a thermostat to regulate the temperature which I set at 135º. The persimmon slices take about 8 hours to dry to the still pliable state. The dehydrator came with several silicon mats and are used to dry fruit pulp. You spread out the pulp to about 1/4 - 3/8" deep and the length you want and dry till the pulp is dry but still pliable. Drying intensifies the flavor. For the astringent persimmon varieties, freezing is the easiest thing to do. If you have little ones or grandchildren, they would love the dried fruit pulp.
How ripe do you need the Fuyus to be? We eat them soft, all but the skin. What is there besides the pulp?
Thanks, trois
Fuyus become sweeter as they get soft, but they are ripe and can be eaten when they turn a slightly darker orange and still crunchy like an apple. Fuyus are normally dried while the slices can still hold their shape. Fruit jerky is made from the very soft and jelly-like pulp of fully ripe astringent persimmons. The pulp from astringent persimmons takes on a transparent jelly-like look when fully ripe. The persimmon flavor is more intense in the astringent varieties. I've seldom let Fuyus get that soft unless I want to make persimmon cookies. Pulp from astringent varieties make more flavorful cookies.
Sometimes Fuyu fruit may have up to 5 seeds if the flower was pollinated. I hate when that happens because it makes slicing much more difficult.
Thanks for the information. I have never found a seed.
trois
Did you know you can get cuttings for postage from the National Clonal Germplasm Repository?
http://www.ars.usda.gov/Services/Services.htm?modecode=53-06-20-00
Thanks for that information.
I will check it out.
trois
BUMP
I didn't want to start another oriental persimmon thread.
I'm really excited!There are tiny flowers on one of my trees.I've waited for this for a long time.I received a bare root tree 2 years ago and it never leafed out.I received a replacement after almost a year and the tree has done fantastically.
The other tree I have was ordered potted after the bare root failed because I just couldn't wait another year to get a new one.This tree a much smaller.It is doing well but I don't think It will flower this year.
Should I really not eat the first year fruit if there is any?
I suppose, if you have the self control. I didn't and we ate the first 3. It made us look forward to the next year. My Fuyu has twice as many small ones as it did last year. Starting to drool already.
trois
My new trees have leafed out -- with big, cup-shaped leaves. But. some of the leaves have a brown wrinkle on their lower ends.
What do the blossoms look like?
: )
Yep -- that's it.
But I don't have any blossoms. Maybe next year.
They've been in the ground since last November -- so I have to wait.
My growth is all above the y-crotch in the trees, So each tree has five feet of bare trunk (if you call something one inch in diameter -- a trunk!) with buds spaced all along it. I can't imagine what'll happen with them.
: )
That is a picture of the blossom and the little Fuyu. Those small leaves things at the base of the big leaf will be attached to the ripe fruit.
Can you send a pic of yours?
Mine looks just like that.
Me,self control,fuyus?You got to be kidding.
Welcome to the club!
It would be harder to quit Fuyus than cigarets.
I'm still trying to get a fuyu for my yard! You've reminded me to get going again to the nurseries here to find one! Maybe next year I'll have some blossoms.
Call Maas. They have had them in the past.
Good to see a fuyu thread!
This is my tree (I have two, can't have too many!) and hopefully they will grow better this year. I planted them last year and was leafing out really well. Than Florida Pest Control came out and sprayed them (even though I asked them not too) and damanged the leaves! :(
This is the way they look this year.
Mimi
Well, flyboy, they do look young. Do you fertilize? We don't as we were told too much is bad. Probably depends on the soil where you live.
Those pest control peeps are frequently out of control. Also the power company. We have had damage in the past, but not to the Fuyus.
I haven't. The nursery suggested spraying the leaves with fertilizer. I haven't yet. I'll scratch some 10-10-10 into the ground.
But, I sure would like to see some sprouting out of the lower stem, like mimianvy shows.
: )
It sounds like yours were forced tall by removing lower growth. Mine are branched and fruiting from the ground up.
We have heavy gumbo soil and I suspect your soil might be a bit sandy.
I think you're right.
But the buds along the stem are bulging -- so, I hope, I hope, I hope.
: )
I sounds like they will pop. Hope so.
I have very sandy soil.I don't fertilize but add loads of compost to all my plants.In fact I probably couldn't grow very much without all the compost.I live 3 blocks from the beach and have many live oak trees with their spreading root system.
I replacement tree I planted last year is doing really well.I will take a picture and post it later today.
Glad to know it is doing well. Send the pics!
mimi~
Get ready. You should try to get a permit to establish a "Farm Stand" in order to sell all the fruit you'll be picking.
Be well
; )
It's hard to imagine too many Fuyus.
Last year when this thread started I went to the supermarket and purchased two Fuyu persimmons at $2 each. The head of the produce department told me that they were very hard to get. He said that most people just let the excess rot on the trees and don’t realize that there is a demand. I planted one the following week and it is loaded with young fruit. It’s going to be hard to do but I know that I have to thin them out. I was surprised that such a young tree would set out so much fruit.
Bettydee, Thanks for the tip on freezing the pulp from my Tamopan. I have enjoyed the frozen treats all through the winter and sill have four or five zip lock bags to go.
Oldude
I have never thinned mine except picking them to eat. I guess my tree would be larger had I done so, but we have enjoyed a lot of persimmons.
Trois, my Fuyu right now is still small compared to the two Fuyu I left behind when we moved. Thinning is a good idea. The weight of maturing fruit can be so great that branches will break. I had that happen before I learned my lesson.
I also learned to make some Ts to brace heavy branches.
I planted a Chocolate persimmon in fall of 2006. It is still very puny. I made the mistake of buying it from Stark Bros. I should have purchased it from RainTree Nursery from whom I bought all my other persimmons. The "trunk" caliper is still about 1/4". This year it's going to get plenty of fertilizer. I have very, very sandy river soil and compost is not enough. The tree needs to put out some vegetative growth.
Thanks for the info. I will be ready to apply braces if necessary. One reason I hate to thin is that too often hail does it for us, sometimes too well.
I have noticed that Fuyus do much better in heavy soil, which I have.
For some reason the county was giving away Fuyus a few years ago, only one to the person. They cautioned against fertilizing. We didn't and have had great success. It has produced great foliage and fruit every year. Drool, drool.
I fertilize my sandy soil here. Back in CA, my two persimmons were planted in heavy clay on a hillside and received some pelleted fertilizer once a year without any problem. I got so much fruit off thoe two trees that I had enough to dehydrate. The flavor intensifies when dehydrated. Yummm.
I have problems not providing some food in one form or another. Starving plants don't fruit well. Over time the soil will become deficient in one nutrient or another.
I have that problem here due to excessive rainfall. My Oranges and Bananas need feeding. The Fuyus seem to be very happy without feeding. We do feed some nearby rose bushes, so it probably gets a bit of food from that.
oldude~
You have me jealous.
How big was the tree when you planted it?
: )
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