Can anyone help ID this "ditch" tiger lily?

I have been traveling this road for 30 years and out of nowhere this cluster of tiger lilies popped up this year. Apparently the moisture and growing conditions were just right.

I dug one to ID it... it is a gorgeous bloom and in reading the plant files, it could be this one ~ Lilium Lancifolium http://davesgarden.com/pf/go/1025/ but I see in the gardeners notes, Rubygloomrox says they aren't scented.
These smell wonderful and even DH could smell them and commented on it.
So I wonder if they are this one... Orange tiger http://davesgarden.com/pf/go/160479/ as the description says flowers are fragrant.

These stand from 2 to 3 1/2 feet tall with small lance shaped leaves. This photo shows the leaves.

That's not your average tiger lily, considering the irregular spots. My first guess would be L. michiganense, but we'll see what the species experts have to say.

Podster, nice find. Hope you're checking for bulbets.. If you want to share any bulblet finds, I'm volenteering myself.. :)

I have known these recurved types to be commonly called Turk's cap lily.
This is a link to Google Turk's cap Lily images.
http://images.google.ca/images?hl=en&q=turk's%20cap%20lily&cr=countryCA&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&um=1&sa=N&tab=wi

I have a yellow one in my garden called 'Citronella'
This is not a very good pic..

Moby ~ I will check out the L. Michiganense ~ thanks for the tip.

lcosden ~ part of me wants to go back for more, part wants to let them stay where they are. It was a delight to spot them... I haven't decided yet but someone else will probably beat me to it.

Starzz ~ the yellow is lovely ~ I need to go look at the Turks cap lilies... thanks for the link.

This message was edited Jul 30, 2007 9:59 AM

The turks cap lily could be it ~ does anyone know about fragrance? Also anyone have foliage photos? pod

check this out...

http://www.cas.vanderbilt.edu/bioimages/species/lisu.htm

Ticker ~ thank you for that link but I'm thinking not. The flowers on this lily are spread up and down the stalk rather than in a cluster. The foliage is clearly different too.

There are so many varieties it can be confusing. I am pouring over my books to in hopes of IDing this one.

Can you post a pic of the foliage, taken from the side of the stem?

Here is stuff on the Michigan lily.

http://www.illinoiswildflowers.info/prairie/plantx/mich_lilyx.htm

The Michigan lily bloom favors... the foliage I am not so sure about.
Does anyone know if it is fragrant?

Will try for a better foliage photo this evening.

Whorled leaves - that says not tiger lily right off. The general look - spot pattern and smaller anthers included - just doesn't seem quite right for michiganense, or superbum. Has more of a western North American species look to me, and I'm no where near an expert on that.

There are so many lilies it could be. Parryii, Humboldii any of the west coast lilies or a hybrid of one of them. Even a pardlinum hybrid. Think you may just have to enjoy it in your garden, hope that it increases and send us all seed when you can.....

inanda

I second that.... :D

Y'all are making me think I need to go dig all the rest of them up... lol

Hope to take a foliage photo and post it later...

Podster, if I was closer, I'd come and help you dig. :)

Phew ~ you might back out when you hear our temp and humidity. It takes the fun out of gardening.

Hum.. I was in San Antonio, TX for a while and I don't remember the humidity at all. But then, I just came out of basic training in Missouri. That was hot and humid. Talk about being misrable..
It's been warm and humid here in NY too. Been having thunderstorm nonstop too. It's getting to the point where it's hard to stay clean. It was like I took to long the other day and DH couldn't shower until 2am. Apparantly the storm came right after I got out and didn't leave until 2am.. lol... He was pissed at me for making him stay up late. lol...

San Antonio is usually hot but dry. (with rain, this is not a normal year anywhere tho) We are close to normal for our summers just 10 inches more than normal.

Things are just doing so much better due to the moisture. That may be why these lilies just popped up.

Right now we are 90 with 65% humidity. Feels like a sauna when you walk outdoors.

It was like that this past weekend up here too. But now that we're out of town, it's nice back home again.. C'est la vie. Watch. It'll be hot and nasty when we get home again.. Never fails..

I thought San Antonio was pretty hot April 2006. We came from 30 degree Iowa weather to 93 degrees San Antonio in just 2 days. Quite an adjustment! Nice town....

Odd, I have not been there. Our family lives in Mn so we go north for vacations. Maybe someday. I'll bet that weather in April was welcomed!

Podster, if you go to San Antonio and you like shopping, don't miss the Riverwalk. I miss shopping there.. It's beautiful scenery while you shop.. :)

columbianum?

Let me check that out...

Meanwhile ~ here is a mediocre picture of the leaf structure.

micropterus101 ~ the columbianum surely resembles this one.

One question is the geographic area the columbianum is found. Primarily in the North & West.

The second would be fragrance ( not mentioned )

Do any of you have a "fragrant" tiger lily or is this an anomaly? pod

Looks like a Carolina Lily(Lilium michauxii)......a small lily with a 'Heavenly' scent!





















This message was edited Jul 30, 2007 11:11 PM

michauxii vs. michiganense:

michauxii grows in dry, well-drained soils; stem rooting; leaves are broadly lanceolate; inflorescence is an umbel; scented; stoloniferous.

michiganense: grows in moist soils, often by roadsides; non-stem rooting; leaves elliptical; flowers are in a loose inflorescense.

These two hybridize with each other and michauxii also hybridizes with canadense.

Sources: McRae, Bird, Jefferson-Brown

I would exclude west coast species due to the difference in heat and humidity. From what I have gleaned, perhaps you should check on whether it has stem roots? That may help confirm michauxii; it already meets the scent criteria.

Thanks Pard, I knew you'd be able to shed some light.

I do believe it will be Carolina Lily ~ Lilium michauxii. http://davesgarden.com/pf/go/2716/
Everything indicates that it is. If I question anything, it will be the stem roots... need to go dig more up and look closely.

I am guessing this is not the lily that carries the virus that kills other lilies? Safe to bring home and plant? I do appreciate everyones assistance. Thanks much, pod

Pard's right. I forgot it was a wild lily from deep east Texas.

I do appreciate everyones' assistance. If it is not the Carolina Lily, I believe I need to find some. Pretty and fragrant too. The best of both worlds. Thanks again... pod