new pond

hickory, NC(Zone 7a)

new pond see what you all think,it will get some sun but not alot of direct but alot of bright sunlight so i need to know what plants will do good in it?

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hickory, NC(Zone 7a)

different angle
edited for spelling lol

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hickory, NC(Zone 7a)

here is the rock wall my darling husband built for me it will be a 3' waterfall awesome he has to bring the Kobota down to finish digging it out or let me dig it out lol not sure if he will let me but hope he will if he wont let me lol

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hickory, NC(Zone 7a)

in the 2nd picture all the grass on both sides will be a flower garden as well so i will be busy for a while
any help on any of this will be appriciated,just would like to know the no's and the yes' on this lol
i dont know if you all remember my "little" one i did last year or the year before? well i put it in this one it is the little part on top
well enough chatting need to go to bed and thxs

Dolores, CO(Zone 5b)

Hi! It looks like its going to be great! Take lots of photos and share your progress with us! I love the rock wall, is it cemented together? I'm wondering how you're going to place the liner around it to keep water from leaking either through it or around the sides of it?? It is a great start though, can't wait to see it come together!!

Brenda

p.s. We just built our pond, and I learned so much from so many people on DG... and everyone asked me questions back that in some cases I hadn't even thought about, so they saved me some trouble. If you want to see how ours progressed, here's the link:

http://davesgarden.com/forums/t/705479/

hickory, NC(Zone 7a)

yes it is cemented in and i have thought about the linner too heheeheh but my hubby said to put dirt in there to hold it but i think i will put clay in there instead i was hoping someone could help me on this part lol thxs going to go look at yours i love ponds hehehehe
thxs

Dolores, CO(Zone 5b)

Or, you could place the liner around it and build more rocks up over the liner to hold it in place, stacking them up and around the wall to blend it in and hold the liner in place. Maybe some with more experience than me will chime in with opinions... Plain dirt or clay will probably erode quickly... so you might need to lay down the liner around the rock wall and secure it... you don't want to be re-doing liner in 6 months...

I love ponds, too! Lucky you, getting your own! If hubby is that artistic I trust he will work it out...

:)

Brenda

hickory, NC(Zone 7a)

yes i love them and yes i thought about rocks also,which i think is better we will see i cant wait ready to play lol thxs

New Hampshire, NH(Zone 5b)

Looks like a great start. My pond gets very little sun as well - so I thought I'd share what grows in my pond....there are some varieties of water lilies will bloom with only part sun. Look for varieties that say they tolerate part shade. My pond is actually MOSTLY shade, but they still bloom for me. But even if they didn't, they are worth growing for the lily pads alone. I also successfully grow pickerell rush, water forget-me-nots, marsh marigolds, golden creeping jenny, and impatiens can be grown bare root in the water as well.

Keep us posted on your progress

Orange Springs, FL(Zone 9a)

OEM roofing liner is great to use. You can pick it up at a local roofing company.
Shellie

hickory, NC(Zone 7a)

well thxs everyone
i need to know what filter systems you all recommend? i want to buy a good one and everything because i would like to put koi in it if possable but if not then subumkins(sp?) lol and also i have a liner (15' X 20') i know this is a stupid question but want to ask it anyway lol
how big and deep can i make it with a liner this size? like i told my hubby i will probably have to buy a new liner heheeh and i have read that it is best not to make shallow edges because i preditors does anyone else have shallow sides? plmk and thxs so much for helping i can already see this is going to be a long process but want to do it right so i dont have to redo it or end up with no fish thxs

Orange Springs, FL(Zone 9a)

moretz
http://www.skippysstuff.com/biofiltr.htm this is a must for any pond!!

hickory, NC(Zone 7a)

DoSaye
thxs so much for this i saved it will read it later i hope to get this thing done before too much longer
does anyone know when is the last time to put the fish in so the can get used to the cold i want to get this done so they will go in there and wont get shocked from the cold?how long will it take them to get used to the pond before winter sets in? thxs i might have to wait and put them in next spring because i want to do this right thxs

Rutland , MA(Zone 5b)

looks like everything is progressing on pace. keep the pics coming.

bsavage - thats fantastic

hickory, NC(Zone 7a)

ok this is what we did today,this is a slow project but want to make sure we do this right lol i dont want to have to take it all apart and redo it,any suggestions on it? should i do anything different then what you see here? thxs

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Dolores, CO(Zone 5b)

Looking good so far... it looks like maybe you're planning a waterfall on the right of the pond that is lined? It looks like you've got steps dug out... when we had to overlap our liner, we thought we could follow the flow of the water and just overlap it and put rocks on it, but we found we had a lot of leakage that way. Had to go to the pond store and buy this seam sealing stuff... very expensive ($90.00!) and it was like a really heavy duty double stick tape that apparently completely bonds with the liner. But, it worked. Probably someone here can tell you a less expensive option for seaming, but you will need to seal it one way or the other.

Keep up the good work!

Brenda

hickory, NC(Zone 7a)

ok i know i know it has taken me a long time to up-date you all but have been busy
but here is what we got done today and have to go to lowes to get my pipe tomorrow for the pump,i didnt take a pic of the waterfall but will tomorrow hubby is doing a great job and i have to work on it when he will lol once he gets what he is doing done then i wont need him any more all around the pond is going to be planted so i have alot to do but i am injoying it, does anyone have any ideas on what to do around it that would be great i would love any pics of yours so i know what to plant or maybe pots or garden art that would be good to go in there thxs so much for looking

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hickory, NC(Zone 7a)

i know it dont look like much but that pile of dirt around it was bigger then what the picture showed lol

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hickory, NC(Zone 7a)

ill take a pic from the bottom and you will see what i was doing with the dirt ,making a flower bed aorund the whole pond lol

hickory, NC(Zone 7a)

ok it has been awhile since i have posted anything on here because as some of you know that i had my mother last year and couldnt do anything but this year i am finally getting this thing done,need a few more boulders and it will be done so i can start to finish it

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hickory, NC(Zone 7a)

i need to know if the cement will hurt my fish and what i would need to do to fix it plmk and thxs
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3rd

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Dolores, CO(Zone 5b)

What are you planning on using the concrete for? Glad to hear you are able to work on it again!

Brenda

hickory, NC(Zone 7a)

the rocks

Dolores, CO(Zone 5b)

Okay, well I'm going to let the experts on concrete answer here, we didn't use any in ours. Maybe azreno (Lynn) has some good advice, she is the Queen of Concrete! Oh Lynn....

Jasper, AR(Zone 7a)

I think the concrete has to "cure" for 6 months before adding fish. Also waterlilies need 5 hrs sun a day minimum for good bloom. Looks awesome--gonna be gorgeous!!!

hickory, NC(Zone 7a)

cure does that mean with water or no water in it? plmk and thxs

Mesa, AZ(Zone 9b)

Hi Moretz,

With so much concrete you will want to cure it well before adding fish. Concrete will cure best (and quickest) with water in it (not with freshly laid concrete, let it harden first!). You could easily cure the concrete and leach out a lot of the lime by filling it with water for a month then changing out all the water, would be like starting any new pond at the point and you'll have a permanant Ph buffer!

Hi Brenda :o}

Hi Tommie, hope all is good with your move!

Dolores, CO(Zone 5b)

You rock, Lynn! ☺

Nantucket, MA(Zone 7a)

Great job. No concrete in mine either, just tons and tons of rocks over a liner and a vault and pump. I dug and layed it last fall. After I did most of it, but my DH jumped in and helped with the liner and getting it all hooked up. I couldn't have done the liner very easily myself, but the rocks and digging where fun, just very tiresome. But good for this old gal. We love it. No fish as it is an endless stream. But most of the ones I have seen have no concrete, just liners and rocks. Can't wait to see yours done. This is the top 1/3 of ours. Plants from this coop will help fill in the existing plants if they come back after all my digging. Plus I planted a few thousand bulbs around it in Nov. Patti

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Dolores, CO(Zone 5b)

Patti, that is beautiful! Can't wait to see it in the spring!

Brenda

hickory, NC(Zone 7a)

ok have been working on pond
this was about 2 weeks ago,worked on it today but havent took any pics but it is running!!!!!!!!!

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hickory, NC(Zone 7a)

2nd

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hickory, NC(Zone 7a)

3rd
the other pics it will look alot different lol will take pics tomorrow if it isent raining

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Dolores, CO(Zone 5b)

looking forward to seeing it with water!

Brenda

hickory, NC(Zone 7a)

here is what it looks like now
still need to add more water, get more rocks,get the grass up,plant my plants, etc etc lol but it is getting closer every time i work on it
i hope you all like it?

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hickory, NC(Zone 7a)

well i m trying to add more pics and it wont let me so i guess this is the one you all will have to be happy with lol sorry

hickory, NC(Zone 7a)

ok 2nd

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Dolores, CO(Zone 5b)

Looking good so far! Keep going!

San Francisco Bay Ar, CA(Zone 9b)

Very nice! I can’t wait to see how it turns out :-)

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