Are specie lilies self-compatible ?

Gent, Belgium(Zone 8a)

I wondered if a specie-lily like the martagon are self-compatible, because I noticed that the style is sticking out in a way as if to avoid that this would happen ?

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Gent, Belgium(Zone 8a)

I feel I have not chosen the right title for my new thread; better would have been perhaps the reproduction system of specie lelies


I think my observation was wrong; I rather think that it is curving upwards because it has been pollinated.
I really got interested in the reproduction system of lilies thanks to Wallaby.
I took some pictures of my blooming martagon (there are 3 flowers open now). I'll call it martagon #1.

First one shows the newest flower, not pollinated yet (I think, please correct me if I'm wrong) the style is still hanging straight

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Gent, Belgium(Zone 8a)

Second picture when the flower got pollinated, the style is curving upwards and it looks like the pollen are almost gone from its stamen.

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Gent, Belgium(Zone 8a)

Close-up

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Gent, Belgium(Zone 8a)

and a pollinator at work on the new flower

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Saint Bonifacius, MN(Zone 4a)

Now if ever there was a turned up pistil, that would certainly be it! And one happy lily!

I really don't have a clue as to what an upward pistil means, but your theory is definitely plausible. I can tell you that last year I tried to pollinate a Lilium speciosum var. rubrum with L. speciosum var. album pollen. The pistols did turn up, but successful pollination did not occur. However, initially the lily may have thought it was pollinated well, when in fact, later it was not.

Lilies in general, including species lilies, are self incompatible. This of course means that the same flower, or flowers of the same plant will not fertilize itself, or other flowers of the same clone. But lilies of the same species and different genetic make up, like those grown from seed or a different cultivar, will pollinate each other. There are exceptions where certain lilies are self compatible.

As for the stigma evading the anthers theory, that is another possibility. There are other plants (not lilies) that have been studied, and are known to employ this strategy to encourage cross pollination.

Gent, Belgium(Zone 8a)

Is a 'style' synonym to 'pistil', Leftwood ?
I'm not so familiar with the English names of the anatomy of a flower.

I didn't find the name 'pistil' in the anatomy of a flower I found on the web:


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Gent, Belgium(Zone 8a)

Sorry, just found out that I didn't look well enough! Now I noticed the name 'pistil' on the right side of the drawing and it means the whole of 'stigma', 'style' , 'ovary' and 'ovule' together.

Gent, Belgium(Zone 8a)

Perhaps my lilium martagon 'album' won't make any seeds as it had almost finished blooming before the other martagon opened it first flower.
How can one know if it is making seeds. How fat should the ovary (?) become ?

Here is a picture of one of its ovaries;

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Saint Bonifacius, MN(Zone 4a)

I did use the word pistil purposely, as the ovary will upturn in time also. But it isn't that important. With the aforementioned attempt of fertilizing my L. speciosum var. rubrum, the ovary upturned also, to some extent. But did not continue since it began to wither. I really don't have a time table for that though. Your album ovary seems fertilized, but it is too early to tell.

Gent, Belgium(Zone 8a)

Thanks a lot Leftwood for your patience and useful information!

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