White Blooms

I hope no one is gasping in horror!

My earliest and most reliable flowering vine :)

What cultivar is it? Moon vine by chance?

No, it is Calystegia sepium (thus, the gasps of horror) but it has become an old friend on our farm.

No gasps of horror here, I love it.

I like it!!

I spray that plant with weedkiller all the time.. If any one wants some bring a spade there is field full next to me..

I admit it look nice untill you have to live with it! lol

Mike

Since I don't know what the issue is with this vine, I can only say that it looks beautiful! Is it invasive and considered a "horror"? This newbie wants to know!

It is pretty flower but look at the size of those vines! What a bully! Looks like a rope there.

Joseph

Most people consider it invasive. We have enough of a light freeze in the winter where it all dies back. I have not had a problem making it behave in the 13 years I have been living with it. It needs to be controlled.

Thanks for the info, Beth! So .... I guess Florida would not be a good place to grow one? :-/

I would think FL would be fine, especially if you start the vine yourself - you have the opportunity to control it before it gets out of hand.

If your soil is predominantly the hard red clay then that goes a long way for control. A pot in the center of concrete city is another idea that comes to mind.

If your soil is nice airy,rich,dug up,moist, delicious, full of earthworms and compost garden soil then omg look out!

You don`t want to turn this loose in your garden area. These are beautiful and much like wildlife better viewed in their place much as Beth has pictured. The are very pretty!

You could grow them fine in Fl, but I would suggest doing it in a pot because these spread by underground runners. Confine them to a pot and you should be okay.

Thanks! I was actually thinking "container" not in the ground! It's a very lush vine with some gorgeous blooms! Very, very nice!!!!

Calystegia sepium has some interesting common names:
bearbind
devil's guts
hedge bindweed
hedge false bindweed
hedge falsebindweed
hedgebell
large bindweed
old man's night cap
wild morning glory

Joanne

I don't have mine in containers, but it was here before me! I have learned to live with it and respect it.

oh my would love it. it would stay in a big pot here though. hmm does this one seed or produce by runners? it a very pretty flower. i love white glories.

You are crazy... bring your spade and help me dig as much as you like ... you are welcome to as much of it as you can carry!

I'm not gasping either, they look great, I'd grow it in a pot.
A.

Is that a yes your coming round then? lol

Mike

These usually spread just by runners, but occasionally produce seed. Glad to supply some if anyone wants.

i would like . dmail me and maybe we can work something out.

Juat SASBE...I'm in the adddress file.

I have no luck growing plants from other zones. They always die on me unless they are from central or south Florida. :-( I think it is the heat here that does them in. If you ever get any seeds from yours, I'd love to have a couple. Thanks for offering up plants! :-)

Oops! Double posted for some reason. I am erasing!

This message was edited Jun 11, 2007 11:28 AM

I have seeds and they should do fine in Florida.

Oh, that would awesome!! For SASBE or trade? I have some seeds listed on my trade list. LMK. Thanks so much!!!

SASBE is fine

But PLEASE keep them contained so I don't burn in hell!

This message was edited Jun 11, 2007 10:14 AM

Beth - ROTFL! No! I won't turn them loose here! I've got a Trumpet Creeper vine here, too! Also confined to a large container. NO runners are allowed in my yard without my permission! I keep the bullies tamed. :-)

Don't worry, the Pearly Gates will be opening for you ! LOL! ;-D SASBE going out to you tomorrow for some seeds.

Beth - ROTFL! No! I won't turn them loose here! I've got a Trumpet Creeper vine here, too! Also confined to a large container. NO runners are allowed in my yard without my permission! I keep the bullies tamed. :-)

Don't worry, the Pearly Gates will be opening for you ! LOL! ;-D

SASBE going out to you tomorrow for some seeds. Thank you!

Ladies, Ladies , Ladies, you are tampering with Pandora's box here. This is one of the few species that has given over 1700, species a bad name. Why? The seeds are big and may lie dormant in the soil after a squirrel buried it, for over 40 years. This has been documented.
Why tamper with spreading something for which there is no herbicide that will kill it? The roots go 20 feet deep. Too deep for any herbicide
to kill. All the herbicides we have are not strong enough to last til they get 20 feet deep.

There are many neighborhoods that have this specie, infesting their yards, and neighbors fewd over who is to blame for not controlling his.
The whole thing is so laughable, because the root systems in this neighbor hood could easily be 200 to 300 years old. Blooming away when Jamestown was established in 1607, and blooming every year since then. If only, perrenial morning glories could talk ,and tell the history they have seen come and go in their liftime, wouldn't that be a hoot.

Don't make me get preachy about the tree in the middle of the garden of Eden.......... Frank

Frank - My theory is this .... if I can contain it and keep it nice .... it stays (in a pot of course!) If it gets outta hand ..... it's put into a black trash bag for the city dump! Wouldn't that look nice to see them growing all over the city dump??? LOL! I will also be watching for seed production on this plant. I don't want any getting lose in my yard. :-) And I will be putting a saucer under the pot to monitor and prevent the roots from sneaking or busting through the bottom of the pot! Been there, done that! I like the looks of this plant because of the white flowers and the thick growth. It will be growing up a fan trellis inside the pot. I plan to be VERY responsible with this plant. It's only for me......NOT to share with others in my area. :-)

This message was edited Jun 12, 2007 12:28 PM

hmmm i promise it will stay in a pot. i have indica in a pot and it gets clipped so it dont stray. i promise it will be contained.


Yes Becky our dumps need beautification.!!!!


will get large sase in mail tommorow as i have a cat in surgery today.

thanks so much.

a big envie or one for seeds???

A medium padded size would be good. They are big seeds.

Oh,well...while were on the subject...

Another native with somewhat similar habit(s) for consideration...and this one has somewhat larger purple flowers
Ipomoea sagittata
http://davesgarden.com/pf/showimage/81262/
http://www.regionalconservation.org/beta/nfyn/plantdetail.asp?tx=Ipomsagi
http://www.killerplants.com/plant-of-the-week/20030714.asp
http://www.easttennesseewildflowers.com/gallery/view_photo.php?set_albumName=Florida-Wildflowers&id=DSC00096

North Carolina
http://capelookoutstudies.org/plants/plants2.shtml

TTY,...

Ron

Interesting, Ron. I've lived here in Florida most of my life and never seen this plant.

One of your website links had this to say:
The plant does not adapt to man-made habitats and seldom persists in gardens.

So apparently it is not considered invasive like the Calystegia sepium.

beckygardener - I can most assuredly assert that based on my personal experience with growing Ipomoea sagittata that it does definitely spread by underground runners...

I'm tending to think that the one site that mentioned that
"The plant does not adapt to man-made habitats and seldom persists in gardens."
was posted by someone to discourage gardeners from growing this plant...or maybe they had a black thumb(!)...

Ipomoea sagittata is not quite as invasive as Calystegia sepium because the roots will not survive outdoors in very cold areas(ala one of my former plants) and it does not produce nearly as many seeds as the Calystegia sepium...

Enjoy your native(!) plants...

TTY,...

Ron

Ron,

Thanks! I have never seen the Ipomoea sagittata here, though I have seen "white" blooming MGs in the wild, just never any with pink blooms. Too bad they can't be crossed with more unique MGs to get longer lasting choice plants. :-/

~Becky~