Ten Ten

This Morning two here

one more

Oh boy how pretty. I want some of those seeds if you ever get any extra that you just don't want. :) I really love the splash of color in the bloom.

I love that second one, it is gorgeous. Are they makein PODs??

Not Yet

am going to gross a couple of the flowers to gypsy bride

that sound like a really neat combination.........................

What a "grow-out" that would be - would love to see it

Paul - can you post a nice photo of the sepals on the ten-ten...I think the tern-ten is an Ipomoea nil and the Gypsy's Bride is Ipomoea purpurea...they won't cross...

TTY,...

Ron

The leaves look interesting also, Paul, if it is not too much trouble, can you snap a photo of the whole plant.. this has me very curious also at 3 ft, it is giving lots of flowers.. Thank you.
A

ok ron

Here's a pic of the whole plant it is not very big, but blooms alot. Paul

Couldn't get a good shot of the sepals.

This one might be a little better Paul

Paul - Good enough...It's definitely Ipomoea nil and will cross with other Ipomoea nil...

TTY,...

Ron

Ron, if I'm reading it correctly, in http://protist.i.hosei.ac.jp/Asagao/Yoneda_DB/E/relatives/04_3.html , Dr. Yoneda mentions that he has back-crossed I. youjiro with I. nil a few times so that one of the results was a feathered double.

What if Paul were to cross Ten Ten with that feathered double variety of I. youjiro?

Are all of the feathered doubles being grown among us on this forum within the I. purpurea species, or is any of them a I. youjiro? I sure would like to find that plant.

Until we locate it, maybe any of us who are interested could cross some I. purpurea feathered doubles with an I. youjiro, and then at some point in the future, introduce an I. nil (like Ten Ten) into that strain.

I say "us" as a group, because although the size of my house and garden allow me to keep a few strains going, I don't have room by myself to grow out large numbers of seedlings.

Just wondering

It looks like the plant has lots of branches which makes it look bushy.. wow, on the amount of blooms there. Thanks for posting the photos Paul.

Yes,Dr.Yoneda did alot of unusual hybridization and it took many years of intensive experiments...Ipomoea nil will potentially cross with other Ipomoea nil and potentially with the Youjiro hybrids...Ipomoea purpurea will potentially cross with the youjiro hybrids...

Dr.Yoneda does mention several pattern types that resulted from his hybrid experiments but not all of the hybrids are necessarilly the youjiro type...if there are any 'youjiro doubles' I've not seen them in circulation...there may be some in the seedbank at Kyushu...

The Gypsy Bride is an Ipomoea purpurea as is the vast majority of 'feathered' double types available...

The kikyo Ipomoea nil are sometimes 'double'...

The youjiro can be used for further hybridization of Ipomoea nil and Ipomoea purpurea...although the youjiro are more likely to cross with another Ipomoea nil as the youjiro are mostly Ipomoea nil...

When you mix too many things together you get a 'muddy soup' and the features you originally were trying to achieve can get lost or diluted...but you might like playing with the resultant 'mud' just the same...> 'mud pies'(?!)...

TTY,...

Ron

Ron, last year in my garden, I was so impressed by how much more healthy and vigorous the youjiros were than the nils, while being just big enough without gobbling up the rest of the garden like the purpureas. So, if I'm successful down the road in this, I'll call it "Ron's Mud Pie" in honor of you :)

But, Ron, which crosses do you think might be good ones for us to pursue on this forum? Any you really "itch" to see?

I`ll say I`m getting some beautiful mud pies out there in my garden :)

The youjiros crossed with nils are very easy to care for plants I must say. You loose flower size but if you do your homework and grow enough F2 seed you will find a few with comparable flower size to the pure nil parent.

The crossing and growing out is the way to find new stuff and create looks you want to see in your garden. Then the F2 growout is the fun part. Then the real fun begins with larger grow outs of the selfed pod you select of "the special one" and then it is generaton after generation of sizable growouts of self pollinated seeds.

Once you get all the hidden recessives weeded out then you got a keeper. SOH is a keeper but you have to keep her with hand pollination if you grow any other nils anywhere in your yard. You wull collect your SOH seeds and end up with Scarlet Stripe or the dreaded SOH with the white throat. The white throat is a dominant trait too.

In my growouts there is one where I desire a white throat and I will have to spend a few years finding and weeding out the ones with fuschia throats.

This message was edited May 29, 2007 8:44 AM

Paul,
the photo with the whole plant (top right hand of the chair), there is a lizard, what is the orange thing by his chin? lol.

A.

its a tag on a Glaussa Water Canna I do a Lot Of Hybriznizing with cannas and Brugs Paul

The canna tag is on the left and lizard guy is on the right. Some people call his expanding throat pouch a money bag. He is trying to ward off other intruding lizards from his territory.

Isn't he a cutie.. I thought it might be a pouch of some sort.