Hi,
I am hoping we could start a list of cold hardy,say zone 5a on down, species. Some of the info on species is so vague. If anybody can add any thoughts please do...
Andrew
Cold hardy species
I know that tiger lilies will grow like weeds! I found free tiger lilies on craig's list.
If you search craig's list for your area you might find some lilies thriving nearby that you can dig up and bring home.
I hope this helps.
Tracy
Who's Craig?
Beak, it's a free listing service for classified ads.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craigslist
I am a zone 4/5 and have had some of my lilies for 3-7 years. Some I just planted last fall and some the fall before. What is it you are looking for? The different kinds/names?
I am looking for cold hardy species lilium.
Such as: Stargazer, Centerfold, Landini, Black Beauty, Siberia, Lollipop, Arabian Red, Mojave, Rosey Dawn, Tom Pouce, Gran Cru, Monte Negro,Triumphator, MonaLisa, Muscadet,Scheherazade,
Sea Treasure, Dizzy, Desert Song, Golden Stargazer, Starfighter, Shocking, Tinos, Elegant Lady, Sorbet, Amethyst Temple, Regale, Boogie Woogie, Cote d' Azur, Le Reve, Dot Com, Elodie, Color Parade. These are the ones that i have had for at least 3 years, some as long as 7 yrs. I didn't post the ones that I have planted in the last 2 yrs. Is this what you were looking for?????
intercessor, you mean species, not hybrids. Correct? hansonii etc?
Correct, no hybrids. Mother natures creation. pixie62560 thanks for the list though.
Such as these:
http://www.deflorum.com/lilium/species.html
Sorry...im still new to this!! I just love lilies and grow them. I really am just learning about all the different ones and had no idea what you meant. Another lesson learned (blushing w/a dunce cap on!)
Edited to say: Regale is one on the list, at least I had one!! LOL
This message was edited May 21, 2007 10:21 AM
LOL No dunce cap necessary, pixie.
A lot of the species don't have this kind of information. What you should look at is their native habitat and try to determine where it might fit in with USDA zones. Of course, it someone has already done this research, that sure would be nice (Lefty????).
I've always thought that species native to Korea were pretty cold hardy while Chinese were a toss up, seeing how big that country is. I don't think the Japanese natives are as hardy as the Korean.
I usually only invest in one bulb if I'm not sure about hardiness.
Another thing, I've been able to successfully grow zone 5 bulbs here in Minneasota (and I think Leftwood has also) by modifing the planting depth and in some cases providing a warmer environment by doing foundation plantings. These bulbs need to be well mulched in the Fall after the ground has frozen.
Another trick I learned about orientals is to only plant them in the Spring, so they have the entire summer to develop roots. If they don't develop those roots before the freeze, chances are they won't make it. I sort of apply that same rule to iffy species unless Fall is the only time of year they are available.
I have successfully over wintered L canadense, L lankogense, l pumilum, l daricum. I am sure I will think of others. (I am Zone 5)
I've done l. candidum, L lankognese.and hansonii successfully.
Korea in general may be colder than Japan, but it has warm zones too by the sea, and islands. So you have to be careful what part of Korea it is. Same with Japan. My nephew lives on the north island, Hokaido, in Obira. He was very surprised how cold it got there, even by the sea. They get lots of snow and have several winter festivals of Inu tradition, the aboriginal people who live there. The Inu are much more like the Inuite of Alaska and Russia, and not related to the Japanese at all.
China is a toss up. Anything from the Himalayas and definitely south of the moutain range is questionable, but certainly possibly z4 hardy. The Himalayas act as a barrier for the cold that creeps down from the arctic. We have no such barrier for cold air in North America; that's why we are colder, even at the same lattitudes.
Can't seem to locate my zone map of Asia.
I wouldn't be surprised if someone has found a better one, but this is the best European map I have found:
http://www.plantideas.com/zone/europe1zone.html
I volunteer to keep an up to date listing in this post by re editing. I suggest contributors earmark their species with the zone and state their lilies are growing in (if different than their DG listing). Zone 4 Maine is way different than Zone 4 Minnesota, etc., so I think it is a good idea. I'll start with mine. Others with the same species, I will simply add their zone and state after mine.
Some of mine say "Chen Yi" after them. This I think important, because until the lilies flower, I can't be reasonably sure of their identity. Chen Yi is known for misidentification. I have other species seedlings in pots, but overwintering them is not the same as open ground, so I leave them out.
Lilium:
amabile - z4a MN
callosum - z4a MN
canadense - z4a MN, z5b ME
canadense var. rubrum - z4a MN
candidum - z5a WI, z4 MN(with protection)
dauricum - z5b ME
davidii var. willmottiae - z4a MN
duchartrei - z4a MN
fargesii - z4a MN(Chen Yi)
formosanum - z4a MN
formosanum var. pricei - z4a MN
hansonii - z4a MN, z5a WI
henricii var. maculatum - z4a MN(Chen Yi)
kesselringianum - z4a MN
lankongense - z4a MN, z5b ME, z5a WI
leichtlinii var. maximowiczii - z4a MN
leucanthum - z4a MN
mackliniae - z4a MN
maculatum var. wilsonii - z4a MN
martagon - z4a MN
michiganense - z4a MN
monadelphum - z4a MN
nanum - z4a MN(Chen Yi)
phillipinense - z4a MN
polyphyllum - z4a MN
pumilum - z4a MN, z5b ME
regale - z5a ME, z4 MN
regale alba - z4 MN
rubellum - z5, ME
speciosum var. rubrum - z4a MN
szovitsianum - z4a MN
tsingtauense - z4a MN
This message was edited Jun 10, 2007 8:42 PM
Wow, that's some list, Lefty!
That is quite a list! Thanks Leftwood.
Did you order from Chen Yi ? We discussed her lilies at our Lily Judging School. I'm ordering some with llilyfan this weekend. I want more species in my beds.
Last spring a group of us got a Chen Yi order, the only time I have ordered from her. We did this year too, but much later (late winter). We got a confirmation, but no correspondence after that. I hope she is okay. We don't pay until she is actually ready to ship, so we're not out an money. But, no shipment either.
Of course, Chen Yi is certainly not the only place for species lilies, and if you buy within your country, you won't have to go through all the customs stuff. Am interested in what you guys will be getting.
There are some gaping holes in my list for someone to fill. Surely someone must grow L. pardalinum or regale in the north . . . .
I just planted some so I don't have any info yet. Hopefully they all come up, still have wilsonii and a couple others that haven't shown yet. I wanted to get the list going so we would have a reference during Fall ordering season. If I can srcap enough dust bunnies up...
There is a guy on the Yahoo group that lives way up in Canada in zone1. I think it is Hay River,NT. He had a post with a bunch of species he grew. I'll see if I can find it.
This message was edited May 23, 2007 7:21 PM
This message was edited May 23, 2007 7:22 PM
For sure I have regale and regale album. I tried to get pardilium last year, but it fell through. I'm also growing L candidium 3 years now and they are multiplying nicely. I have some others coming up, but not sure whice ones are where. I also have some hybrid species that I picked up here and there. Again, I need to see them bloom before I post their names.
intercessor, I believe you are referring to Darm Crook (possible error on the last name) He is the guy that can tell you what will grow in the north. Uttlerly fascinating to chat with...
Adding: I heard that no one got orders from Chen Yi this spring. I don't know if this is true or not, but someone else said a lot of people didn't get their orders... As Leftwood said, no money lost as you don't pay until they arrive.
This message was edited May 24, 2007 5:26 PM
Beaker, didn't you say your candidums were right next to the house, or you mulched heavily, or something? If so, I'll put "z4 MN (with protection)".
Yes, I have them in a foundation planting (maybe about 2 feet from the actual foundation) and I do mulch and recommend that probably even in zone 5. The one thing you can't do is plant deeper as they come as live plants.
Darm is coming to NALS in JUly so .... come north come North
inanda
I'm so excited. Today I noticed three purple-brown stems where I had planted the L lankongense. They are not readily identified as a lily as there aren't many leaves and the stem is very slender.
That means the three coming up that I wasn't sure what they were are L cernuum. They have ferny foliage like a fern leaf peony.
Now if they only put out blooms this year!
Was someone going to ask about making this thread a sticky? I had to go searching for it.
Add L rebellum to the list if not already listed above. It has over wintered for me two years here in Zone 5.
Rubellum added, unless you have a "rebel" species. LOL
Thanks, Lefty. I went to a party yesterday and was a little under the weather when I wrote... ROFLOL
We decided to wait on our Chen Yi order until fall. I'm leaving spots for the species to be added. I have several l.pardillinum that are budding out now.
I'm devastated! All four stems of the Madonna Lily have been trampled (or should I say Ollied). Not a damaged stem on either side. How can he be so selective. The stems are already turning yellow. I hope this doesn't kill them off.
Oh dear. Ollie, I hope you are hiding somewhere that is only 4" high about now. You are in trouble!! Only one thing she loves almost as much as you and you ruined not one, but four of them. House arrest coming.
In all fairness, I believe there might have been a big, fat rabbit that may have been the enticement.
Next year, I will be protecting them somehow.