Deep Shade

Plainwell, MI(Zone 5b)

when i bought it the tag said white sweet woodriff and it does smell so sweet when its opened in the spring.

Waukegan, IL(Zone 5a)

Galium Odoratum is Sweet Woodruff. It's my favorite groundcover for shade. I believe I saw a closer picture of that scene on another forum because I remember how cute the little angel or fairy looked and how the white of the statue went so perfectly with the white of the hosta and the white sweet woodruff flowers. Picture perfect, gardenlady!

Orangeville, ON(Zone 4b)

Thanks so much for the name! I agree chris_h, the combination of the hosta with the Sweet Woodruff and angel looks perfect. I have a cherub with her arms up like that and laying on her belly but don't have a spot for her yet.....this has given me some inspiration (which I so often lack). I love my plants but not so great at combining them for a pleasing effect.

Thanks again,
Erynne

Waukegan, IL(Zone 5a)

That's one of the great things about dave's garden. You get to see so many gardens! And it's way way less expensive than buying gardening magazines or books.

Plainwell, MI(Zone 5b)

you are very right about that. I mean in magazines you see the perfect. yard which some of you have on this site believe me. But you know people actually put the blood sweat and tears into the work. Every one is so willing to share their knowledge of gardening. Ronna

Hiouchi, CA(Zone 8b)

bonitin
i thought you had id'd a groundcover plant growing amongst the vancouveria for me
but looking at the petal count i see mine is not Sweet Woodruff ?
i will take the macro out and get a good pict when the rain stops :-)
Dick

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Chevy Chase, MD(Zone 7a)

I believe that in the front (the bottom of the photo) are wood poppy seedlings -- Stylophorum diphyllum(http://davesgarden.com/pf/go/1014/index.html). I'd love to know what is in the back. It is definitely not Sweet Woodruff.

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Hiouchi, CA(Zone 8b)

Happy
the plant at the bottom of the image is Vancouveria hexandra the inside out flower
http://davesgarden.com/pf/showimage/83145/
i have some patches of the Vancouveria as ground cover and there are some (not many)
of the other unknown (looks like sweet woodruff) mixed in with it
and i thought it had been identified but it has the wrong number of petals
and i will take a closeup of the flowers on it tomorrow afternoon when the rain lets up
i think i will also take some good macro picts of the very small inside out while i'm at it :-)
Dick

Chevy Chase, MD(Zone 7a)

Strever: Sorry for the misinformation -- and thanks for directing me to the "inside out" flower, which I had never heard of. Sounds charming!

Highland Heights, KY(Zone 6a)

Ooo, what a unique flower! Very pretty! Thanks for the link, Strever!

(Zone 3b)

Astilbe are such great deep shade workhorses. I have also had great luck with perennial lamium, such as "Annie Greenaway". It flowers nicely and brightens up a shady area. You also can't go wrong with a Lime Rickey Heuchera, or maybe a "Stoplight" Tiarella.

Here is a pic of a small, deep-shade garden that is under a cherry tree, from a few weeks ago, so not too much blooming.

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Chesterland, OH(Zone 5b)

Oh, that Vancouveria hexandra sounds very neat, I am going to have to keep my eyes open for that...

Plainwell, MI(Zone 5b)

i love all of the heucheras I have many and as muddbear says they are wonderful color all season long. I also like the iceland poppies they blossom in the spring as well as davids wort or grape hyacinths, epimediums the list can be very long oh and of course jack in the pulpits. oakleaf hydranges is beautiful. this is the first year for mine and georgeous.

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Hiouchi, CA(Zone 8b)

here is an image of Vancouveria as a pretty nice looking groundcover
and i found out the other plant is Trientalis latifolia http://davesgarden.com/pf/go/129868/

Dick

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Fort Edward, NY(Zone 5a)

Muddbear, I love your deep-shade garden!! Terrific job keeping it all so natural with the beautiful boulder and tree stump! What is it you have growing out of the stump? it is hard to see in the pic.

Gardenlady-your oakleaf Hydrangea is looking mighty happy and healthy. I have one in my backyard, and it has absolutely taken over. Will get a pic of it in the morning....It is definately one of my favorites!

~Dawn

Chevy Chase, MD(Zone 7a)

Does anyone have suggestions for shrubs for deep shade? I have a spot for chris_h's kerrias -- but I need some more. There's the polka dot plant (I don't remember the latin name off hand). I'd especially like something bright or variegated to brighten up the shady spot. I am planting a steep hill -- probably won't be an easy place to grow, especially a plant with a single stem. I also don't want anything that will get too tall. . . .

Stanford, CA(Zone 9b)

Acanthus is a wonderful shade shrub. Acanthis Mollis Tasmanian Devil is a variegated form. Get's about 3X3

If the polka dot plant is the leopard plant then it's farfugium aureomaculatum.

Chevy Chase, MD(Zone 7a)

My mistake -- I meant Aucuba japonica, gold dust plant.

Westbrook, CT(Zone 6a)

Ky, you mentioned deer resistant. Very few plants are. Our native deer love our hostas and caladiums--I keep trying to protect them with nets and such but the deer eventually find and eat them. The hostas do come back, though.
So far the deer have not eaten astilbes, heucherellas and digitalis.

Highland Heights, KY(Zone 6a)

LOL, yep, they call them deer "resistant", but not deer "proof"--if they're hungry enough, they'll eat anything. And the drought this year has been tough on them and all critters.

Moberly, MO

Wild simulated ginseng would be neat. It has pretty bright red berries in the fall, and after 5 years or so, you can sell it for LOTs of $. THe less you take care of it the more valuable it will be. And it needs shade.

Highland Heights, KY(Zone 6a)

Thanks, I read that ginseng does well in woodland settings, and I did look for wild ones on our property, but didn't see any. Nothing wrong with planting some, though. And I bet the birds and other critters would spread the seeds!

Auburn, AL(Zone 8a)

If you were a little further south I would recommend Buckeyes (red and bottlebrush), Sweetshrubs, Gardenias, Hydrangeas, Alnus sweet sixteen, native hollies, native azaleas, and tea olives(actually a tree but many people grow it as a shrub). There are probably others but I grow all of these in shade or part shade.

Piedmont, MO(Zone 6a)

Hi, hymenocallis; great idea! Red buckeyes grow here in zone 6, so I think those would be great for her. I have one in partial shade, blooming right now.

I also have good luck with celandine poppies blooming all summer if I keep the spent stalks cut back and the plants watered.

Let us know how it's going Kywoods,
Toxi

Chevy Chase, MD(Zone 7a)

Wow -- toxi -- I have a huge stand of celadine poppies and had no idea that would rebloom if I cut back the stalks. Do they look icky while you wait for them to fill in?

Plainwell, MI(Zone 5b)

hey do you have to wait until the foliage turns yellow for the celadine poppies to be cut down?? so they will blossom again. or do you cut right after they blossom??? or do i need to wait for them to go to seed??? i know to many questions!!! i really like my poppies and want them to spread so manybe i will wait for the seeds. Ronna

Highland Heights, KY(Zone 6a)

We do have buckeyes in our woods. I never heard of those poppies--I'll check them on plant files. Thanks!

Edit: It's spelled two different ways on several websites I saw. I checked after not finding it on Plant Files, for "celadine", but it comes up under "celandine". I wonder which is actually right? Anyway, here it is, for anyone besides me who isn't familiar with them:

http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/1014/

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Chevy Chase, MD(Zone 7a)

I bet the correct spelling is celandine -- it is just easy to not pronounce the first "n", so I bet that is the source of the misspelling.

Highland Heights, KY(Zone 6a)

That makes sense! They sure are cute, though. I'll have to look for them.

Piedmont, MO(Zone 6a)

Hi all,
I cut back each flowering stalk when I see lots of seed heads hanging on it. Cut it to the ground. The plants seem happy to send up more. The very best bloom is during the spring, but they keep a few blooms all summer for me.
I have read that bleeding hearts will do the same, but haven't tried it.
Toxi

Chesterland, OH(Zone 5b)

Well, I learned something new today, I was out in the garden this morning and started dead heading my two plants!
thanks!

Plainwell, MI(Zone 5b)

will certainly try the poppie deadheading ths year!!

Saint Louis, MO(Zone 6a)

My celandine poppies are a little rambunctious.
They pop up everywhere and can overwhelm smaller woodland plants, if you're not careful.
But they are really beautiful and add lots of well-appreciated color.
I wouldn't think you'd need to buy more than one or two, since they reseed so avidly.

Plainwell, MI(Zone 5b)

I have never heard this of the bleeding hearts... but certainly do not want to cut it down to find out... i love the plant to much... would love for it stay around all summer with the beautiful hearts... i know there are some that blossom all summer but really prefer the old fashioned ones.... if you dead head the poppies to soon do they die??? i really do not want to loose them either!!! Ronna

Hiouchi, CA(Zone 8b)

i have Dicentra formosa (western bleeding heart), Celandine Poppy (wood poppy) & one of the ajuga's ( they all look alike )
taking over my front lawn
i mow them down on a regular basis starting in the spring and they just keep coming back :-)
the ones around the edge of the lawn of course look wonderful :-)

Dick

Piedmont, MO(Zone 6a)

Actually, all the volunteer seedlings caused me to start the deadheading in the first place. That's when I noticed that the plants were determined to make some seeds!!!
I don't cut the entire plant back all at once, just a stem here and there as they finish blooming. Then more stems just keep arising and blooming, although not as pretty and full as the first flush.
Good luck!

Santa Cruz, CA(Zone 9b)

My ligularia is in spot that doesn't get a drop of sun and it has these crazy orangy yellow wacky looking daisy like flowers during summer. also my variety is purple underneath the leaves for foliage color. Money plant also did well and had cute purple flowers with silvery seed pods to follow.

Plainwell, MI(Zone 5b)

wonderearth you do not like the ligularia flowers??? I love them so do the butterflies!! Call me crazy, but I think they are beautiful....;) I have the big leaf othello I think its called, the brit marie, and a new little rocket.... all three get those flowers on them and I love them all.!!! Ronna

Stanford, CA(Zone 9b)

I found the yellow flowers affronting at first but now I leave them on and they last for a very long time. I've grown to really enjoying daisies in the shade.

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Plainwell, MI(Zone 5b)

very pretto Doss... are yours in blossom now??? Why of course you are in zone 9b!!! Mine blossom much later.. Like in July or so... Cant wait... Ronna

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