Two questions about MGs

Hi!
Can Morning Glories be overwintered?
Can cuttings be taken from them?

I've overwintered and taken cuttings from several annuals the past two winters with great success and just if anyone else has done these things before with MGs.

Thanks,
Erynne

Hi Erynne...I have been growing them inside overwinter. It is really hard to generalize morning glories since they are all so different. Some are definitely perennials and some are geared to be annuals, but can have their lifespan lengthened by preventing them from setting seed. I have them blooming all winter and they do fine.

Erynne- Sometimes an annual species can be overwintered by rooting a non-flowering cutting in the fall...

Reaffirming what Beth has mentioned that these plants can often exhibit a very individualistic type of behaviour...

TTY,...

Ron

Thanks for your replies! Beth, when I overwinter things I don't give them much more than water every now & again and some indirect light. I start giving some fert prior to the onset of spring. Can I do this with MGs or do they need fert on a regular basis when they're brought inside? Blooming all winter eh, that's cool!

Oh boy, I need MG 101; I didn't realize there were perennial types as well. But really, are there perennial types that would survive a 5b winter in Canada?? I'll have a look around for more info as I find this rather intriguing.

Can anyone suggest a good book about the Convolvulaceae family?

Tks,
Erynne

I sure wish there was a good book out there! Just read through the old threads here and you will learn a lot. I use a metal halide lamp for light to get them to bloom all winter. Regular inside temps of 70 degrees seems fine. I think there is at least one perennial that would survive in zone 5b overwinter outside. It would survive as a root and then come back in the spring. Let me look it up to be sure.

Okay, I verified that. Ipomoea pandurata survives overwinter outside in zone 5, Ontario Canada.

http://davesgarden.com/pf/go/53273/index.html

This message was edited Apr 10, 2007 11:48 AM

Now that's cool; a MG that may survive winter in Zone 5, and it's pretty to boot. I don't suppose there's one that is perennial in Zone 3. LOL. I'm sure there's not!

Joanne

Thank You Beth for looking into that! Apparently Ipomoea pandurata grows in the wild here in Ontario but I can't say I've ever seen it before on one of my many hikes. I will be keeping my eyes open for it now.

Okay, what about this one Joanne .........it looks like it's thug for some though:
http://davesgarden.com/pf/go/2890/index.html

I can't believe there isn't a good book out there as the Convolvulaceae family seems to be a very broad topic! I really rely on books to learn the most because reading from a computer screen really gets to my eyes after a while.

Erynne

Trying to 'overwinter' in a dormant state and trying to have plants that are very actively growing are very different...plants that are going into or are already dormant would usually not be fertilized >with the possible exception of some Potassium and or hardwood ashes/potash which seems to help preserve the roots from rotting...

Plants that are very actively growing may benefit from some supplemental Nitrogen and/or bloom stimulating Phosphorus...

There are some cold hardy perennials in the Calystegia genus
Calystegia ' hederacea ' 'Flore Pleno' - I believe this is actually Calystegia pubescens and is not quite as invasive as it does not produce seeds
http://davesgarden.com/pf/go/56485/index.html

Calystegia spithamaeus - Upright Bindweed
http://davesgarden.com/pf/go/121391/index.html
- twines very little or not at all and grows upright to about the same height as Convolvulus tricolor...not quite as invasive because it does not twine(and can't bind anything) and only grows upward to about 18",so any seeds produced are dropped in the immediate vicinity of the relatively short plants

Convolvulus arvensis 'Frescatti' - developed in Sweden
http://www.hobbyodlaren.com/convfres.html#

Here is a listing of some perennials in the family Convolvulaceae that are either very cold hardy or have large roots which can be overwintered indoors...growing them in large containers may be necessary...

I have in some instances added additional photo links on the main entry comment section...


Convolvulus chilensis - forms a large root that can be overwintered indoors
http://davesgarden.com/pf/go/107578/index.html

Convolvulus cneorum - can be overwintered indoors
http://davesgarden.com/pf/showimage/65803/

Convolvulus erubescens - can be overwintered indoors
http://davesgarden.com/pf/showimage/93990/

Convolvulus remotus - can overwintered indoors
http://davesgarden.com/pf/showimage/94053/

Ipomoea carnea - can be overwintered indoors
http://davesgarden.com/pf/showimage/125216/
http://davesgarden.com/pf/showimage/93513/

Ipomoea indica can be overwintered indoors
http://davesgarden.com/pf/showimage/54966/

Ipomoea leptophylla - this is known to be extremely cold hardy and whoever entered the hardiness zone as limited to zone 10b was and is mistaken
It would be very helpful if anyone viewing the PlantFiles could see who made the initial entry,but this feature is not available...maybe the staff will see fit to enable this very useful feature
http://davesgarden.com/pf/go/32008/live_view/

Ipomoea lindheimeri - can be overwintered indoors
http://davesgarden.com/pf/showimage/81402/

Ipomoea macrorhiza - can be overwintered indoors
http://davesgarden.com/pf/go/53206/index.html

Ipomoea platensis - can be overwintered indoors
http://davesgarden.com/pf/go/107204/index.html
http://davesgarden.com/forums/fp.php?pid=1773359

Ipomoea sagittata - can be overwintered indoors
http://davesgarden.com/pf/showimage/82208/

Ipomoea setosa - can be overwintered indoors
http://davesgarden.com/pf/go/106134/index.html


Merremia dissecta - can be overwintered indoors
http://davesgarden.com/pf/showimage/87166/


Hope that helps...

TTY,...

Ron


This message was edited Jul 17, 2009 10:40 PM

Ipomoea pandurata on ebay
http://cgi.ebay.com/Ipomoea-PANDURATA-Morning-Glory-Vine-Seeds-RARE_W0QQitemZ160103401537QQihZ006QQcategoryZ43549QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Ron, WOW what a great post! Thank you for taking the time to put these together.....I really appreciate it.
I'm going to go through all the links throughout the day (supposed to be working,lol).

Tks,
Erynne

Thank you Ron for the links; I see there may be perennial possibilities for Zone 3 after all. I just assumed not, as I have never seen Morning Glories or their relatives growing wild here in Alberta.

Joanne

I have a few Convolvulus remotus seeds if any of our Canadian friends are interested in trying this variety.

I also have some seeds I can send for I. indica from a Southern Cal strain. The seed is from 2005 if you all want to try it. I may also have some Alamo Vine merremia dissecta, have to check on that one.

Mine did die for this year ( Platense, macrorhiza, and M. dissecta) I did not bring them inside and lost them. So, as long as you take them in for the winter, you should be good to go. Don't make the mistake I made and treat them like caudiform cactus.. I thought because they did not need water during winter, neither did the big roots on these guys, but they do need moisture to stay alive during the winter. I think they died from lack of water for months. Live and Learn..

A.

I've been through those links now and other articles on the net. While the blooms can be the main draw, I think I'm more interested in the variety of foliage and unripe/ripe seed pods. Ron, you are in a similar zone as myself....do you know whether it would be possible for Ipomoea setosa for example, to have a long enough growing time to set seed pods like these outdoors?
http://davesgarden.com/pf/showimage/88134/

Thank you Beth & Gourd for your kind offers! I'd like to be able to trade you both something back but I don't know if I have anything worthy in the seed department, especially not in the MG family (yet). Where do you typically acquire seed for many of the rarer varieties? I know ebay often has stuff up for grabs (like the link that Ron posted and I missed the proverbial boat on) but are there other sources where you can purchase with confidence?

Thanks for the extra info on overwintering.....N & P & H2O has been duly noted.

Erynne

Erynne I am in z6 PA. and my Setosa made lots and lots of seeds. Do you want to try some? It really does make a pretty vine in general even without the flowers!