Karen; this is just one of about 64000 articals on global warming vs just cyclic weather paterns. I was just googling and typed in global warming. I am sure that if you were to type in some thing like cyclic weather paterns some may come up I had also searched national weather statistics and got a bunch . I will have to go back to the beginning and try find a link that is a good one. I was doing that while waiting for the cold weather to go away. It's kind of fun to see what you can find on subjects of interest. If I find one or two I will just send the link
February 26, 2007
An Ice Age versus Global Warming
By Alan Caruba | View comments
History and science suggest that we are, in fact, on the brink of the next major, cyclical Ice Age and it is far more likely that the northern hemisphere will begin to cool.
The latest summary of yet another revised edition of a report by the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Control has evoked all the usual fears predicting the deaths of millions by 2080, and other end of the world scenarios.
2080 is a mere 73 years from now. In meteorological terms, it is a blink of the eye. Real climatologists measure time far differently than the rest of us. While the IPCC, Al Gore, and the other fear mongers are warning of the horrors of Global Warming, it is useful to look at the time scales. The end of the last Ice Age was 11,500 ago.
It is also useful to keep in mind that the known cycle of time between Ice Ages is about 11,500 years. If you believe the fear mongers, in less than the lifetime of the average American, coastal cities will be under water. If the Ice Age cycle holds true, however, at some point it is far more likely that they will be under a thick sheet of ice.
Since we are at the end of an inter-glacial period, we are far closer to the next Ice Age than the last. Everything we call “civilization” has occurred since the last Ice Age. The rise of various empires began about five thousand years ago with Egypt initially being the most prominent.
Let me stipulate that none of the facts to be cited — taken from the open source of Wikipedia — will make any difference to those who are wedded to the global warmer’s end of the world scenario, though dying from too much ice is surely as unpleasant as dying from an over-heated planet.
The notion that humans can prevent either is so absurd as to defy belief, but it clearly doesn’t defy belief because millions have been convinced it can be done.
For now, it comes down to the amount of time in which Global Warming is predicted to end life on planet Earth. For the Global Warmers, the real agenda is not about somehow pumping all the carbon dioxide out of the atmosphere. Even they know it’s impossible. It is also an idiotic goal given the fact that all vegetation is totally dependent on CO2 for its existence. Take away vegetation, forests, jungles, and all crops, and you also remove all human and other species. For true believers, the real pollution of the Earth is the human race.
The real agenda of Global Warming is political and economic. The IPCC’s predictions are intended to stampede the legislation of vast restrictions on all use of energy. It is energy and “labor saving devices” that have transformed what we regard as the modern world. Take away electricity and we are all instantly transported back to the days when the Declaration of Independence was written by candlelight.
An Ice Age, says Wikipedia, “is a period of long-term reduction in the temperature of Earth’s climate, resulting in an expansion of the continental ice sheets, polar ice sheets and mountain glaciers.”
Bear in mind that real science is of little interest to Global Warming advocates. History, too, is a great nuisance because it inconveniently suggests they are lying through their teeth.
For example, there was a Little Ice Age that Wikipedia says occurred “approximately the 16th to the mid-19th centuries, while others suggest a span from the 13th to the 17th centuries. It is generally agreed that there were three minima, beginning about 1650, about 1770, and 1850, each separated by slight warming intervals.”
Prior to the Little Ice Age of some three centuries length there was the Medieval warm period, sometimes called the Climate Optimum because it was a period when more crops produced more food, populations expanded, life spans were extended, and, life for those in the northern hemisphere improved.
Remember the stories of Valley Forge where George Washington’s rag-tag Revolutionary Army near froze to death in the winter of 1777-1778? Think mini-ice age. The one that began again around 1850 didn’t end until around 1950, a century later.
Now apply a bit of common sense. If the last mini-ice age ended in 1950, does it not follow that the Earth has warmed since then? Yes, it has. Climate scientists agree it has warmed about one degree Fahrenheit. Is this cause for panic? No. Should we cease using oil, natural gas and coal? No.
The Global Warmers tell you that it will get worse barely seven decades from now, but history and science suggest that we are, in fact, on the brink of the next major, cyclical Ice Age and it is far more likely that the northern hemisphere will begin to cool. The really bad news is that this will occur quite rapidly once it begins.
For those with the wits to examine the history and science of climate, it is obvious that the Global Warmers are seeking to deceive whole nations and continents into the destruction of a thriving period of world trade and relative peace we call globalization.
Short range, this is occurring today in the Congress of the United States. It must not be allowed to happen and those behind it should be driven from public office at the earliest possible moment.
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Guess I'll have to try that again I could only get that site to go back to 1970. but I don't give up easily lol
Some say the world will end in fire,
Some say in ice.
From what I’ve tasted of desire
I hold with those who favor fire.
But if it had to perish twice,
I think I know enough of hate
To know that for destruction ice
Is also great
And would suffice.
Robert Frost
Russ:
Weather Underground - Go to any date in 1970. Once there, then click the drop-down for the year -- now scroll down that drop-down and it will take you back as far as 1948. Sorry, I should have explained that better. You can choose to search by a particular day, by a week, by a month, or use the "custom" search to choose a whole year at a time by setting the search to: 1-1-(year) to 12-31-(same year).
Thanks for the article. I agree with him. All the preparation to head off global warming is keeping us from preparing for the real problem when it will be necessay to use all the energy we can muster as efficiently as possible.
I love the internet. I hear people say, "Oh, I don't like the internet." Well, I use it as a well-stocked library at my fingertips. When I was little and asked questions Mom would always say, "Go look it up" - meaning the household encyclopedia. Later, it was the library that I went to for answers. But now, it's all right there with just a few keystrokes!
Karen
Let's continue our discussions by going to Part 10: http://davesgarden.com/forums/t/714882/
Kent
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