Ipomoea Setosa

Hey Arlan, look at this unique close up of this Ipomoea Setosa with hair growing in the vine.
The seller says it`s a large fast growing bright magenta pink MG flower. This is on my to buy list.

That is a nice picture! Is it the picture the seller is using? It is a better quality picture than one typically sees with listings! But then I guess we have been "trained" here on the forum (thanks Ron!) to appreciate clear side shots because they present critical identification information! I have not grown this one, but I'm sure someone will chime in with additional information and experiences.

The hairs seem somewhere between the fine hair we see on Ipomoea hederacea and the soft "thorns" we see on the Lavender Moonflower, Ipomoea turbinata. Kinda cool!

Arlan

MGJapan I just started soaking a couple of these seeds. Got them from one of my many special friends. I can send two seeds if you are interested.

:) Donna

MGJapan,
That photo doesn't look like Ipomoea setosa to me.
Look at the PlantFiles - Especially the leaves.
http://davesgarden.com/pf/showimage/127763/

http://davesgarden.com/pf/showimage/86512/

UNLESS it is a lighter colored form
http://www.cs.umb.edu/~whaber/Monte/Plant/Conv/img/Ipom-seto-fl-40-b.jpg

RON WHAT IS IT?

Emma

This is another pic from the same seller.

This is the first pic but I tried to brighten it a bit. What is it that you see that does not fit the type?

This is my week to bus the neighborhood kids to the pickup zone then I'm off to school. I'll check in later today.

The image shown here
http://pics.davesgarden.com/pics/MGJapan_1172402969_389.jpg
belongs to Images and text copyright © 2001 by William A. Haber, http://efg.cs.umb.edu/monteverde/Plan/Conv/Conv.html
Created: 7 March 2001; updated: 18 July 2003.
as displayed on his webpage here
http://www.cs.umb.edu/%7Ewhaber/Monte/Plant/Conv/Ipo-pink-cal.html

The photo here
http://pics.davesgarden.com/pics/MGJapan_1172443025_799.jpg
belongs to Sara Murphy
http://www.sd1new.net/GardenPages/mystery_vine.htm
http://www.sd1new.net/
saraathome@yahoo.com

The merchant(s) should not be using photos without permission and when posting copyrighted images on the forums one should first go into your preferences tab and select the >no copyright option so that no copyright infringement is taking place...the various copyright options are very easily changed back to whatever you prefer for any other photos posted...inadvertent mistakes do happen,but generally we should try to be mindful and respect the photo copyrights of another photographers works...

so proceeding from the above reminder...

The image of the Ipomoea setosa shown does indeed display a 'finer' degree of 'thorns' than what is usually seen on the Ipomoea setosa most commonly grown as shown here
http://davesgarden.com/pf/showimage/84212/
The branches and spines may both show a reddish-purple pigmentation or either the branch or the spines may lack the pigmentation...the spines sometimes present an accentuated look when the base area of the spines shows a pigmentation against the contrast of a non-pigmented stem...the photo by William A. Haber shows a plant with non-pigmented spines anchored against a green to very pale green attachment area >which seems to accentuate the impression of a finer structured spine...

The sepals in the photo by William A.Haber shows sepals which are a very pale green in contrast to the sepals of the Ipomoea setosa which I more usually see which have some reddish pigmentation to the sepals as seen in the photo here
http://davesgarden.com/pf/showimage/86512/
I have not yet grown out any that show that finer type 'appearing' protuberances...perhaps some may show up this forthcoming season from out of the different geo-types that are being grown out...

Ipomoea setosa has been considered as a high potential food source by various multi-national agricultural researchers and has been used in grafting experiments with related Ipomoea species...

The pedicels and fruit are covered in yeast (similar to grapes or plums) which may serve as a protective device against certain other pathogenic organisms...

Interesting(!) species...


TTY,...

Ron



This message was edited Feb 25, 2007 8:17 PM

Thanks Ron,
GREAT INFORMATION !

So, this is apparently the same bloom from the front - since it is on that same site
and is a photo of William A. Haber
http://www.cs.umb.edu/~whaber/Monte/Plant/Conv/img/Ipom-seto-fl-40-b.jpg

Wonder if this is really what MGJapan will get.
Interesting!

Emma

I agree that copyrighted images should be respected but many ebay merchants and even members in this forum don't always comply so that in itself is a whole different ball game. I totally agree regarding copyrights but getting back to the original question that the flower posted is an "Ipomoea Setosa", you prove that with the pic posted by William A. Haber. It's in fact the same pic.

I don't know nor have I seen this picture posted by an ebay merchant but saw it being used by a Japanese seller on the Japanese auction site. Now it's a wake up call for me because many pictures from Kyushu database are notoriously used in Japan. I have even seen some pictures from this site and even from ebay being used on the Japanese auction sites by Japanese sellers. Now I must ask myself how can I be sure that the seeds I purchase here will bear the same flower from the pictures posted. Personally I'm not able to look at MG seeds and know that they are the exact seeds for the type posted. That's the dilemma that I faced with here.

Tonight I'm going to have my wife contact the seller by phone and ask about the picture, seeds ect... and from experience I have an idea how it's going to go. Great information Ron. TTYL


This message was edited Feb 26, 2007 10:35 AM