MG Book?

Lakeland, FL(Zone 9b)

Any one know a good Book on diff types of MG s ?

Clatskanie, OR(Zone 9b)

I am feeling the same frustration with the lack of quality publications. Here is something to look at.
http://www.csdl.tamu.edu/FLORA/cgi/gateway_family?fam=Convolvulaceae

I will get the linking right one of these days. lol Frank

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Clatskanie, OR(Zone 9b)

Here is another, from the USDA germ plasm collection.
http://www.ars-grin.gov/cgi-bin/npgs/html/gnlist.pl?287

Frank
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Netcong, NJ(Zone 5b)

Frank - When you place a link in a post to be hyperlinked >the url must be placed all by itself on the line(s) exclusively devoted to the hyperlink >the url lines cannot contain > be preceded or appended by any of your own adjectives within the lines devoted exclusivly to the hyperlinked url...

Here is Frank's hyperlink to the tamu site
http://www.csdl.tamu.edu/FLORA/cgi/gateway_family?fam=Convolvulaceae


The University and governmental sites are usually very good sources,but they understandably also contain errors...

The USDA has until very recently had Ipomoea cordatotriloba placed in section Acmostemon rather than in series batatas...it's nice to see that they finally followed up on an error report submitted 6 months(!) ago (by 'someone' without their type of official training) allerting them to the classification error...

There are approximately 2000 species(not counting subtaxa) in the genus Ipomoea and 1000's more species within the other approximately 50+ genera in Convolvulacea >The Morning Glory Family...

A complete reference book would have to be like an encyclopedia of at least several volumes...

The forums and the PlantFiles serve as a sort of living reference until or unless a complete hardcopy Morning Glory Bible is constructed...

TTY,...

Ron


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Lakeland, FL(Zone 9b)

Thsanks Ron

Clatskanie, OR(Zone 9b)

Thanks Ron for this important information. It has ha me banging my head. So this means that I sometimes will have to clean up the url to make the link work, instead of just clicking on the address bar.
Is there a difference between cut and copy when you are hyperlinking? I was beginning to think that my computer couldn't handle the length of some urls, which are pretty lengthy these days.. Thanks for the information. Somtimes there is extraneous stuff that I didn't purposely add, so it passes for part of the url to me. This also sounds, like I must put a period before pasting the link.? Right? Frank

Netcong, NJ(Zone 5b)

Frank - just copy the address from the address bar (or wherever else it exists) and paste it...do not add anything(!) to the url...no periods before it...just copy and paste the url as it appears in the address bar...

There may be some exceptions to this general rule of

"Do not add or subtract anything to the line(s) devoted to the url"

but get the basic hyperlinking down first before you concern yourself with any tricky exceptions...

TTY,...

Ron

Clatskanie, OR(Zone 9b)

Phicks, If you ever find a book specializing on mgs, I would like to know ASAP. The links, which I screwed up and then corrected, were for me great info sources because they included BOTANYS of many of the states, usually at their best plant sciences University. If you are looking for information on descriptions and distribution of some species, this might be a place to start. My wife just bought me a couple of books on morning glories, but they basically are picture books with no specie pictures with Latin names. I would not advise buying them. They were like childrens books. She also found another one about the Hawaiian Blue Morning glory, but had no description to speak of. It was cheaper at Amazon than Libris.

We are living on the frontier of electronic publishing, and you know, we may Never see the Bible of Convolvulaceae get into print. I think the best thing to do in the mean time, is to get seeds of species that don't have any photos in the plant files, and get them recorded there as fast as we can, but where oh where do we get the seeds????????????

Sorry about all the botched hyperlinks, but they all worked today so I think I have gotten them all fixed, unless my computer is getting ready to spue smoke.My oldest daughter is bringing me a 2 year old computer this weekend, she got a new Dell laptop. Keep those pix coming. Frank

Netcong, NJ(Zone 5b)

Frank - Regarding

"I think the best thing to do in the mean time, is to get seeds of species that don't have any photos in the plant files, and get them recorded there as fast as we can..."

That's the idea that I've been working on...it's somewhat easier now since the total number of people who seem to have an interest in species other than the most commonly grown ones has risen to about 15 >(!) as compared to a few years ago when the number of people who cared about different species hovered at about 5...so definite progress is being made...

Where do 'we' get the seeds...digging and 'tracking' them down...at every possible source...commercial sources rarely carry anything unusual >but sometimes(!) they do(!)...contacting other gardeners who live in or travel to other countries has often proved helpful to my collection...and professional botanists often have access to rare species from official or non-official sources...

Countries where English is often spoken are usually easier to access than those where English is not commonly used...Latin America,South Africa,SouthEast Asia,Phillipines and Australia are usually good 'hunting ground'...China is also opening up more...India has alot of species but for some odd reason the unusual ones always seem to show up by 'accident' from there...

The species from closely neighboring Mexico would be the ones that have the highest potential to integrate harmoniously into our geo-'political' zone due to the very similar insect relations...the political division of Mexico vis-a-vis the S/SW US are relatively very recent events...just a few thoughts to consider...

It think it would be really nice if we could at least get the species that are native to the US...but 'motivation' seems to be 'low' for locating the generally smaller flowered US native species and they're not getting any easier to find as time goes by...hopefully we'll be able to secure our own native species...

TTY,...

Ron

Houston, TX

Hey Phicks, These are Japanese morning glory publications available here but they're written in Japanese. I'm not sure what the content is for any but I came across these a while back and jot down the ISBN #s. I guess I'll follow up and see what they are about. Can get back to you if you"re interested..

ISBN:4-916202-31-7
ISBN:4-8326-0036-2C0645
ISBN:4-416-49800-4C2376
ISBN:4-8062-0096-4 C00072

Lakeland, FL(Zone 9b)

Ok

Goodlettsville, TN(Zone 6a)

Not sure if anyone is still looking for a book but I liked this one, "Morning Glorys (Nature Close-Ups)"
http://www.amazon.com/Morning-Glories-Close-Ups-Blackbirch-Software/dp/0817227296/ref=sr_1_10/104-7385086-6369513?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1174617615&sr=1-10

No, it is not the definitive reference that we are all looking for. It is mainly geared for kids but I enjoyed it and left it on the coffee table for a few months. It shows germination, twining, and a seed and flower dissection.

It does not discuss the different species and almost all the photos are of Ipomoea nil. The photography is in Japan and there are some interesting photos of markets and one of a cute little Japanese girl watering a potted plant.

Thought someone might enjoy it.

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