Passiflora ID

Campbell River, BC(Zone 8a)

Any ideas on the ID of this passiflora? The flowers are very tiny...only about 1 cm across.

Sandy

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Campbell River, BC(Zone 8a)

Here's a picture of the leaves.

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Campbell River, BC(Zone 8a)

The peduncles are in pairs at each node.

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Campbell River, BC(Zone 8a)

The buds just before the flowers open.

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Campbell River, BC(Zone 8a)

I have a couple of tiny fruit forming.

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Campbell River, BC(Zone 8a)

Here's a better close-up of the flower.

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Tolleson, AZ(Zone 9a)

No clue what it is but I know I want one :o)

Campbell River, BC(Zone 8a)

LOL I'll have to see if I get any seeds. Well, the flowers sure aren't very showy but they're cute. The plant has been blooming for a month so it certainly puts all the other ones to shame since they haven't bloomed at all.

Tolleson, AZ(Zone 9a)

It definitely has interesting leaves. I like the smaller flowers. My passiflora mexicanna had really tiny flowers. Maybe the size of a quarter. I am sure Mark or Kyle will know what this is.

Campbell River, BC(Zone 8a)

I looked yours up and found your picture. It's a cute little flower too.

San Diego, CA

Huh??? Did I hear my name? Ok, my guess is P. Apetala. I'm not positive but I am pretty sure.
Mark

Lakeland, FL(Zone 9b)

I think it might be Cuneata

Norwalk, IA(Zone 5b)

Looks like pass. apetala to me. You need to find a home for a few seeds look me up.. :-)

Campbell River, BC(Zone 8a)

Thanks for the suggestions. It's helpful to have the search narrowed down. I couldn't find many pictures of P. Apetala. I found some pictures of the leaves and noticed that many are a bit lighter along the two longer veins. I'm not sure mine are like that. I'll have to look tomorrow in the daylight. As for P. cuneata....I think its petals are white whereas these ones are definitely green.

Sandy

Norwalk, IA(Zone 5b)

Sandy there are only two or three species with that shaped leaf.Narrows it down a bit. :-)

Campbell River, BC(Zone 8a)

Okay Eclipse....I'll keep you in mind. I'm pretty new to growing passiflora. I only have a few different kinds. I'll probably be on here asking how to tell when the fruit is ripe.

Campbell River, BC(Zone 8a)

Oops...I keep missing your posts while I'm typing. Hmmm....only a couple of different types with that kind of leaf eh? I have Vanderplank's book so I looked all through it. At first I thought it might be P. boenderi but the leaves aren't the same. Mine are green on the underside and the nectar glands aren't yellow on the upper side and orange on the under side.

Norwalk, IA(Zone 5b)

I'm going by the flower shape and color and the penduncle pairs. Passiflora; passionflowers of the world by Torsten Ulmer & John M. MacDougal is a better book for id's I think. If you don't have it, you need a copy..OMG the pics are wonderful.
:-)

Campbell River, BC(Zone 8a)

Oh dear....sounds like another book for my wants list all right. I haven't seen any other books on passiflora. Our regional library doesn't have a single one in its collection. Thanks.

Tolleson, AZ(Zone 9a)

That book is on my Amazon wish list. I think I need to move it to the shopping cart. Please keep me in mind to for seeds. I am off to Amazon. I need another book. :o)

San Diego, CA

Do the newer leafs have any varigation to them at all? Apetala usually has a little of that going on and even more so on the younger leafs.
Mark

San Diego, CA

I saw one response was for Cuneata but it isn't Cuneata. I'll keep trying to find out.
Mark

Tolleson, AZ(Zone 9a)

Ok Kyle I have that book coming. So how much trouble will I be in once it arrives? Should I start looking into a greeh house now. :o)

Norwalk, IA(Zone 5b)

Marie, you gonna love just sitting on the couch and browsing the pics and the tech info is awesome so much better than Vanderplanks books I think. :-)

Campbell River, BC(Zone 8a)

Thanks Mark....I checked the new and old leaves and I can't find any variegation on them at all. Does anyone have a picture of H. apetala?

Sandy

San Diego, CA

Ok, I found my pics of my old Apetela and it definately is not that one. I'll keep checking.
Mark

Tolleson, AZ(Zone 9a)

I cannot wait for the book to get here. I though I had passiflora byronoids but I have found out I probably do not. Does anyone know where I might be able to purchase this passiflora?

Victoria BC, Canada(Zone 9a)

Hi Sandy

The bug has bitten here too. I just started a bunch of seeds a week or two ago for several different types. The passi's sure are a pretty bunch. Are you going to the spring roundup? Perhaps we can do some trading if mine sprout by then. One group started to sprout after only one week, I was amazed because I was expecting the 2 month wait.
What other ones do you have?

Bea

Campbell River, BC(Zone 8a)

Hi Bea.....yes, I love passifloras. Ever since I saw a picture years ago I always wanted one.

I don't have very many kinds. I have caerulea, caerulea alba, belotti and this unknown one that I got as cuttings from Jeanne. I have a 'Lavender Lady' from Canadian Tire, another small caerulea that I got last summer and I grew some seeds that were supposed to be coccinea but the leaves aren't right so I have no idea what it is. My 'Lavender Lady' and the small caerulea are the only others that have ever bloomed but I've only been growing them for 2 years.

It's fun growing them from seeds. I tried two other kinds from seeds but only had one of each kind come up and I accidently killed them. One stuck to the bag I had overtop and then got beheaded when I took the bag off to check to see if anything had come up. I forget what happened to the other but in both cases they came up way faster than I had expected they would.

I am going to the RU in June and would be interested in trading if you want.

Sandy

Tonasket, WA(Zone 5a)

Where did you get your passiflora seeds. I have two vines that I bought from Logees, have had others, but sort of difficult to keep them happy in the gh.

Donna

Campbell River, BC(Zone 8a)

I ordered the two kinds that didn't grow very well, incarnata and quadrangularis, from Thompson & Morgan. The coccinea seeds were from a package put out by Plants of Distinction which I picked up at an Art Knapp garden centre. I believe all were packaged in the UK. They're not easy to find and certainly are expensive seeds especially when you consider the germination rate. Where did you get your seeds Bea?

Sandy

Tonasket, WA(Zone 5a)

Thanks nightowl. I looked in J. L> Hudson and he has a few varieties.

Donna

Campbell River, BC(Zone 8a)

You're welcome Donna. Is that a mail order place?

Sandy

Tonasket, WA(Zone 5a)

Yes, J.L. Hudson, located inLa HOnda, CA is mail order. I order from him every year.

Donna

Victoria BC, Canada(Zone 9a)

Sandy....... Oh so sorry about those that didn't make it. Getting them to germinate is supposed to be the hard part and you did suceed at that.I just started temptation, alata, and a few others will have to look up the names. I am waiting for seeds to arrive for Passiflora Kermesina. Look for the post from gordo he has a lovely photo and that is where I got those seed from. There is a site in Brazil that has passi seeds, many varieties. I am going to order soon want to add to it:) Sending you a d-mail.
I don't know how far you want to go to get them or expense wise but Grassy Knoll has a huge selection of plants and they will ship to Canada. There is the extra expense of a phyto certificate. If my seeds don't sprout later in the spring I just may be tempted:)

Bea

Winnipeg, MB(Zone 4a)

Sandy what little sweeties! I would luv to do a trade with you for some seeds.
:) Donna

Campbell River, BC(Zone 8a)

I was reading about the fruit on your caerulea Marie and I thought maybe I should check my little fruits to see if they were ripe. Sure enough they were squishy so I picked them. They were pretty tiny so I only got 11 seeds from both.

It seems like the best guess for an id was P. apetala. When I asked the person who gave me the cuttings she said she was pretty sure that that was one of the ones she had. She had lost the tag out of that pot.

Marie, Kyle and Donna.....you all expressed an interest in the seeds so I wondered if you still wanted some. Maybe we could do a trade? I was thinking I could split them 3 ways. Well, somebody will get slightly gypped. Bea.....I'm trying to root you a few cuttings since I will be meeting you at the RU in June.

Is it fairly safe to send seeds across the border? I know there's more concern over cuttings these days. I only ever did one seed trade and I got my seeds but the other person didn't get theirs. Any suggestions for the best way to send them?

Sandy

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Tolleson, AZ(Zone 9a)

Sandy I definitley would like to try a seed or two. I will send you a d-mail.

Lakeland, FL(Zone 9b)

Passiflora Suberosa also known as Cork-bark Passion flower or Indigo Berry and also Devil's Pumpkin, a hardy passionvine, root hardy to zone 8. The flowers on this plant usually grow as a single blossom every 4 or 5 inches down the stem. They have very light greenish petals and light yellow filaments with a white center. The shiny soft mapleshaped leaves make this plant attractive even when not Blooming Paul

Winnipeg, MB(Zone 4a)

Sandy I still would luv a few seeds. What are you looking for?
:) Donna

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