There Needs To Be A Law ......

Summerville, SC(Zone 8a)

That states, when a morning glory reaches the top of the spiral, it is required to make buds.

This is Ron's S.campanulata which refuses to make buds.

X

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Noblesville, IN(Zone 5a)

I think you are right. There shoudl be a law that when a lot of plants get to such a size they are to bloom.

Netcong, NJ(Zone 5b)

The Stictocardia are large woody rooted perennials and when they feel comfortable that they have a large enough storage root developed...they'll flower away...they're following the 'olden ways' that have brought them this far...

Lakeland, FL(Zone 9b)

how old is that MG ?

Summerville, SC(Zone 8a)

I sowed 3 seeds July 1, 2006 and one hatched October 2, 2006. Ron did the happy dance as I was the first to get one to germinate.

X

Lakeland, FL(Zone 9b)

Wow long time to sprouting id say it needs to be close to 2 years old to make blooms

Summerville, SC(Zone 8a)

That's depressing. from Ron's description, I'm probably going to have to extricate it from the spiral, give it a bigger pot and something more substantial to climb on.

X

Netcong, NJ(Zone 5b)

Stictocardia are most closely related to the Argyreia...big vines...

Lincoln, United Kingdom(Zone 8b)

Hey get the cutters out and keep clipping his top off till he flowers. Lol

Not sure if they make good bonsai!

Mesa, AZ(Zone 9b)

Very cool! So this could take some time before it blooms huh?

Summerville, SC(Zone 8a)

Oh Dear!!! Well I was trying to find out a zone rating for it and finally came up with a picture. Ron, I think this might be another case where the seeds are not what they are labeled. Found this watercolor on Brooklyn Botanic Garden. The leaves in the picture are heart shaped .. the leaves on what I have are not! After looking at other photographs of other species of Stictocardia, all the leaves are heart shaped.

http://images.google.com/images?svnum=10&hl=en&q=Stictocardia&btnG=Search

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This message was edited Jan 29, 2007 10:29 AM

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Netcong, NJ(Zone 5b)

X - The large reddish-brown fuzzy seeds I sent you are Stictocardia...and if the plant you are posting in fact sprouted from the seeds I sent to you they are unquestionably Stictocardia...the vine pictured is still very young...the leaves will most likely fill out as the plant matures...although some geo-variants may have more elongated leaves...

A somewhat analogous situation exists with the Ipomoea carnea and the Ipomoea carnea ssp.fistulosa...the ONLY difference between Ipomoea carnea and Ipomoea carnea ssp.fistulosa is that ssp.fistulosa has more elongated leaves...although 99.99% of the people listing the plant as ssp.fistulosa 'think' the ssp.designation 'must have something >'interesting' to do with the flowers'...
the fact of the matter is that the fistulosa ssp.designation has ZERO to do with anything related to the flowers...or the look of the seeds...
A similar situation exists with the Ipomoea setosa and the "campanulata" and "pavoni" subtaxa...>check it out >ask anyone listing these why(!) they have them described as such and not just as Ipomoea setosa and I bet not a single person will be able to provide any semblance of an accurate answer..>ala> *twilight zone music* playing...

These type of listings are often presented to give the reader the impression that the source has the ID down to the 'decimel point'...but do they really(?!)..." " " " '

Please see e.g.,the blatantly misleading 'premature conclusions' currently posted on the USDA's site of seed photos...

http://plants.usda.gov/java/imageGallery?category=sciname&txtparm=Ipomoea&familycategory=all&growthhabit=all&duration=all&origin=all&wetland=all&imagetype=all&artist=all©right=all&location=all&stateSelect=all&cite=all&viewsort=25&sort=sciname

Ipomoea carnea
http://plants.usda.gov/java/profile?symbol=IPCA5&photoID=ipca5_001_ahp.tif

Ipomoea carnea ssp.fistulosa
http://plants.usda.gov/java/profile?symbol=IPCAF&photoID=ipcaf_002_ahp.tif
http://plants.usda.gov/java/profile?symbol=IPCAF


There are plenty of other continuing 'errors' for those with sharp eyes to locate on their current gallery...this is after(!) following up on about a 'bakers dozen' of error corrections I submitted...

The larger the 'institution' the more likey the equal number of errors and mistakes...inadvertent temporary errors become > long term mistakes when any entity refuses to correct them...

Google pulls up whatever people 'blather' and 'splatter' across the web and as an old proverb reminds "The crowd is usually wrong"...

Have fun...


Ron

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