TRock,
That is absolutely FABULOUS! It is so neat, and actually does not impede on the yard view (until the vines grow up, and fill the panels). But, it is so neat. So, basically, you poured the concrete pad, set in the tposts and slipped the cattle panels on the "hooks" on the tposts?
Could you post a few close ups of the panels on the Tposts, and the tposts in the concrete? Thanks!
Linda
Livestock fence panel trellis photos
Linda,
I didn't want something as permanent as concrete in this part of the garden. The T-posts are driven into the ground thru ground cloth/weed barrier. At some later date I may need to lay mulch down on the ground cloth for durability.
The 1/4" wire panels are held to the posts with the normal t-post clips used to attach barbed wire, two clips per post.
As this is my first year growing in bags, if heat becomes a problem for the plant's roots, the base of the cages will be boxed in with corrugated tin and filled with straw. This is a work in progress.
I have used this cage setup in the past for tomatoes growing in the ground and it worked well.
Jerry
Since I just bought 10 panels for 40' more of GH, I was wondering what the cost of ya'll's are. They have gone fr $16 to $29 @ here. I almost passed out when they told me how much 10 would be...$299!!!!! OUCH especially since I'm unemployed right now & watch my pennies very closely!!!
I bought mine back in the early 80's. Seems like they were less than a $1 a foot though. I've still got two left that may get used for upright cukes and cantaloupes.
I would be hard pressed to afford $30 a piece. Wow!
they have gone up (along with anything metal) because of the massive upswing in the chinese economy requiring lots of metal--of course now that their economy is crashing and burning, I still wouldn't look for the price to go down
TRock, Panels are not permanently placed. Even BETTER! Didn't wanna have to learn how to level and pour a slab to do this!
Thanks!
TRock ...make sure you let us know how the bags are doing in the hot weather! The whole set up is perfect. That could be done in anyones yard.
Smockette....I was just at TSC and priced them here and they were $29 also. I got some lighter weight ones at HD for $19 that are 3.5' x 7'. But I am only going to have clematis and morning glories on them.
Good friend!
Actually, I don't need a picture just the approximate distance between the posts as you walk under them
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I have a friend who grows her tomatoes next to a 2x4 stuck in the ground. Then, as the tomatoes grow, she ties them to the 2x4. This allows maximum sun exposure and an increased harvest.
Oh i see, Deb. The width is about 5 feet across and top of arch is about 7 feet tall. We didn't have much of a plan when starting. So Dh and I pulled the panel into an arch. He held it as I stood back and roughly determined what the width and height we wanted. Then the placement of the posts were decided from that measurement .
Here is the small version we put in this fall. Same distance and height, only the width of the panel was cut down to five squares.
that sounds good cocoa--about what I thought--also doesn't seem to stress the wire panel so it must be about the perfect distance and makes a very symmetrical arch.
thanks again Cocoa!
Debbie
Cocoa,
Love the arch .. mind if I use your idea.
Cheryl
Cocoa - That is awesome looking! What size posts did you use? I really like that idea!!! Thanks for sharing it! :-)
I'm assuming they are the regular 7' and/or 8' fence posts for wooden privacy fencing, right?
I guess what I am asking is what are the dimensions of the posts. Are they 4" x 4" X 8' posts or smaller like 3" x 3" x 8'?
4" x 4" is the fencing post size--she may be using something else
Looks great, Sheila! Do post photos when you have them in the ground and vines growing up them! I wanna see that, too! :-)
Well Becky, one of them will be for your special MG mix that you sent out last year, if I can find it. The other I hope to find a bright colored Clematis at the Bot Gdn Sale next weekend.
Love the pink and lavender chairs! My 3 year old would LOVE them.
:-)
We sat those outside today just to re-arrange the tool end of the shop. I had painted them in preparation for Easter. I am going to have my Great Nephew and Niece use paint to stamp them with butterflies, flowers, frog, etc; and paint their names on them. Then I will seal them and put them in place of some other chairs on my shop deck. I also bought tote bags that they can decorate and take home.
I plan to make one of these also. Today on BHG website they had an article about vines and they recommended::::::::
cup and saucer vine
scarlet runner bean vine
hyacinth bean vine
spanish flag
moonflower
cypress vine
and morning glories
I can vouch for MGs! One of my favorite plants species to grow! They are beautiful, but unfortunately most only bloom in the mornings and wilt by noon. Spanish Flag is a beautiful vine too! (Which is actually a morning glory vine.) Moonflower is divine and has a lovely scent but only blooms at night! (Another MG) And then there is a hummingbirds choice ... cypress vine, which is also a MG vine. :-)
I do have a lot of hyacinth bean seeds that I didn't plant last year. They would really fill a trellis. I had some Cypress Vine last year in with my Black eyed susan vine so maybe they dropped seeds. I have to look for the MG first though, Becky's are not the ordinary kind.
Now that I think about it, I may have planted those under a trellis that is in the shade. It will be the perfect spot for them, only gets the morning sun.
In the last TX Gardener an article about local woman that planted her cattle panel arbor with edible beans. This made harvesting the beans easy by walking the length of the arbor and picking overhead. It is pretty also with vegies or vines.
I can vouch for MGs! One of my favorite plants species to grow! They are beautiful, but unfortunately most only bloom in the mornings and wilt by noon.
Is it time to sow MGs? I got some different varieties from a coworker and want to mix them in with mine.
I planted MGs with 4'oclocks, so you get MGs in the morning and 4'oclocks in the afternoon.
Last year, when our Rose of Montana (aka Coral Vine) started getting big we didn't really want a trellis there, so we built our own support for it with two tomato cages. We overlapped them in the center and drove a tall plastic bamboo 'stake' thru the holes. Worked exactly how we'd hoped. The only thing that might have made it even better is if the tomato cages had been a bit taller.
collincountrytx - I planted seeds for my MGs yesterday in the garden. :-)
I grow many of my vines along my picket and backyard fence. I haven't tried the livestock fencing yet, which is why this thead is so awesome! It's cheaper than wooden or vinyl fencing and easy to shape and place anywhere in the yard! Love the great ideas here! Keep them coming!
Cajin--best break down and build that arbor for that coral vine. Mine is 40'.
Debbie
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Just a quick thought on the MG planting. Soak overnight in water and peroxide and they will sprout in the container.
I use a 1:4 recipe for solution. 1 pt. peroxide:4 parts distilled water
Coco_Lulu,
I could see planting a tomato plant on the outside of one of your arch and allow it to grow up and over the top. It would actually rest on the top of the trellis. You could then stand underneath it and pick the tomatoes from the underside of the arch.
Note: This is not my origal idea, having been posted in another forum by a tomato grower. He has pics posted of several veggies growing over the tops of his arches. It certainly takes the stress off of supporting the vining plant since it rests on the trellis for its support. Now that I see your, I see how setting the maximum height to maybe 6 ft. would provide a nice height to work with a tomato plant or pole bean draping over it.
Linda
Hey, Linda! How are you girl? I bought a bigger crock pot just so I could make Lillie Mae's Greens!!! lol
Could you find that link about growing veggies over the cattle hoops & post it?
I now have 80' of hoop GHs to block off the sight of trailers behind my house. The only problem is when the plastic comes off for the summer, I can see right thru the GHs!
Since Ike, these dummies decided to clear all but a few trees off their property. Needless to say, they don't keep their back yards decent much less nice!!!
Come on Woodlands Pkwy & buy me out!!!
:~)
Smockette,
Girl, I just made two crockpots of Lilly Mae's Greens yesterday to bring to my DDIL who had surgery. I made cornbread, too! They had company already when I arrived with the pots, but they couldn't keep outta the kitchen sampling from the pot! With company still there, no less!
That tomato pic should be in my tagged files somewhere. I'll look for it for you.
Where're you gonna go if/when they buy you out?
Don't have any idea where I will go! It took me 4 yrs to find this place! But with what they will pay me for 2 acres of prime Woodlands property, $$ won't be a factor like it was b4! Of course, being unemployed since Aug, I could sure use an advance, now!!! ROFLOL
:~)
I'm lookin' for the tomato"trellis" too. We substitute chard for all kinds of greens. Almost have a big enough mess of them to cook your recipe. Makes my mouth water.
Christi
These are all so cool. I am talking my DH into an arch in our strolling flower garden. I keep e-mailing the pics to him.
:-)
What is Lillie Mae's Greens?
Pam
Cheryl, go for it, it wasn't my idea. I copied it from a magazine :0)
We used 4x4x12 posts. Our soil is sandy in that spot and we needed a deep footing. After they were set we marked them with a level line and cut them all to the same height.
One problem we did have was one of the posts warped. It wasn't noticeable until we went to attach the panel. It still isn't noticeable unless I take photo and have a straight line to compare it with. Then it really sticks out. Hopefully the plant growth will cover it in time.
I grew moonflower (one seed) on one corner waiting for the roses to grow. It will indeed cover the panel! But, boy it was a pain to clean off in the fall.
Linda, a friend of mine tried to talk me into growing tomatoes on the trellis. Couldn't do it , I already had roses ordered. Then I had tomato seedling appear in that bed, it was the compost, but accused him of sneaking tomato seeds in.lol
