White Plumy in campus

Mysore, India(Zone 10a)

I had been to take the shots of the tabebuia (?) bloom. On my way back, I happened to notice one of the very few flowers in a plumeria tree. Thought this was pretty, with its light yellow centre and thin petals.

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Very pretty!! I think it might be a species, possibly P. Puertoricensis judging from the leaf I see in the background.

Ventura, United States(Zone 10b)

Beautiful! I agree with Hetty that it looks like a species, but I think Hetty means Plumeria portoricensis; however, the leaf in that shot looks similar to other species leaves as well so it is hard to tell. Here is a list of taxa that might be helpful, but I do not know how accurate it is: http://sciweb.nybg.org/Science2/hcol/lists/apocynaceae.html Here is another site that I often refer to with the names of several species: http://www.plantatlas.usf.edu/synonyms.asp?plantID=1313 We need a better resource for verifying species than is currently available.

Mysore, India(Zone 10a)

Does that also have a 'hairy' edge of the petals?

Davie, FL(Zone 10b)

Very nice Dinu to matter what it is :)
Nice to see you again hows the weather in India?

Mysore, India(Zone 10a)

Weather is cool. Max- 24C or so and Min- 13 or so. A pleasant day and a chill night. The leaves of my own plumies at home are shed off. Bald. The second one has small leaves now.

Ventura, United States(Zone 10b)

Hi Dinu, I think the only species flowers that border on "rarely cultivared" are P. sericifolia, P. stenopetala, P. stenophyllus, P. bahamensis, and P. jamaicensis. There are others, of course, and identification is slow-going. I clearly see the pubescent petals that you are referring to.

Mysore, India(Zone 10a)

Here's the tree and another shot closer up. Went there today for this thread.

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Mysore, India(Zone 10a)

Closer at the blooms.

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Mysore, India(Zone 10a)

And a few seed pods as well. Question: Will these be viable?

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(Zone 11)

I hope you got those seeds before the wind did!

I bet they are viable...

Mysore, India(Zone 10a)

Oh no. Tomorrow I'll go to try and gather them. Should I pluck the other two as well? This is the first time I'm seeing pods on plumis!

Ventura, United States(Zone 10b)

Neat pictures, Dinu! I don't know if those other pods are ripe. They take 9 months to ripen from the start. I would for sure collect those seeds and try to sow them. They should be viable as Dave said, but sometimes species seeds can be hard to germinate. They need lots of heat to sprout. I still don't know what species that is, but it could be Stenophyllus. Here is a leaf chart that I made last year, which may or may not be accurate. It is based on the size of my plants and the labels of my plants, which we all know can be mislabeled.

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Ventura, United States(Zone 10b)

Here are some pictures put together by a fellow plumie grower named Rick. They are of P. bahamiensis:

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Ventura, United States(Zone 10b)

Here is one labeled P. cubensis, posted by Daryl in Australia, but again, I'm not sure of the accuracy in labeling.

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Ventura, United States(Zone 10b)

Here is another P. cubensis, posted by Daryl. Someone needs to definitely sort out and catalog the plumeria species because there is much confusion in this area.

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Mysore, India(Zone 10a)

Thank you Clare. Now I know why Plumerias is such a deep subject and interesting too. There will be subtle differences that the eye can catch. Yes, mislabeling as it passes along could be a thing to worry about. I had seen that leaf set in some other thread. Will go and check in an hour to see how ripe those pods are and also collect those few seeds if they are still there. Nine months to ripen? That's a pretty long time going by the shortness of life of each flower, isn't it? That could also be in proportion to the tree's longevity.

Ventura, United States(Zone 10b)

Hi Dinu, yes, there are many variations of species, it seems. Most of the not-commonly-seen species seem to have the rounded leaves, but some, like P. alba, have more narrow, pointed leaves. And the flower vary too, but they are all white with a yellow center. It's true this is an interesting tree for sure.

Yes, nine months to ripen is surely a long time. I think Brugmansia tree seeds take about that long too. Yes, the flowers only last a few days to a week, and pollinators are usually thrips. The sex organs are too hard to reach in the narrow part of the corolla for most pollinators.

Here is one of my seedpods. I'm not sure when it was started, probably in July or August. This picture was taken just a few days ago. It is outside, and it will soon rain, and we are supposed to have freezing temps by the end of this week. I'll probably have to cover it temporarily.

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