Apologies............ I only ment to ask you all about your Christmas trees..............
and look what I got... the SocioEconomic GeothermoAgricultural Politicofuturistic World Congress at my fingertips.... the new computerised dictionary could easily call this thread the "need-to-know-all" to enter the 21st century...
To change the subject, and skip some of the longer theories above (I might as well subscribe to the Economist - it would be less reading to do, and more profit as well) .... there is question that sums up the Christmas tree debate:
what is for dinner tonight on your tables? [ Attention, ........ NO EXCUSES NO THEORIES - JUST WHAT]
PS. I 'll drink a glass of red Cretan wine for each and every one of you, you are all wonderful !!!
Dimitri
Your Christams tree this year? And your thoughts about it??
LOL - Dimitri ..... well today is the last day of Christmas and although we have lots of traditions around Christmas - we don't have any traditional meal for today ..... so we'll be having leftovers of the Turkey we had on New Year's Eve - in fajitas! lol Nothing traditional about that! Then we'll start putting away the decorations tomorrow ....... that's the part I dislike the most ...... There will be bonfires and fireworks tonight though .... so we'll have that to look forward too :-) (I know nothing eco -friendly about that - but we really love our fireworks) ;-)
Rannveig
Now there's a conundrum, eco friendly electricity but at yet another cost! I think sometimes we'd be better trying to reduce our consumption of energy rather then trying to find ways around it.
Dimitri
Dinner this evening will consist of pork belly in a Chinese style marinade (which should read - absolutely nothing like anything you would eat in China, just some odd Anglo version made by someone who had never tasted Chinese food LOL). This will be accompanied by new organic spuds or possibly over chips (depending on how lazy I feel) and whatever vegetables happen to be in the fridge. Oh and a cup of tea as the beverage. Yesterday we had some of the left over stuffed shoulder of lamb from New Years with vegetables and potatoes which was yummy!
As this has become rather a serious thread which is hardly surprising, I thought I'd start a new thread with a positive theme of our own environmentally friendly tips for the garden and home which is here http://davesgarden.com/forums/t/682504/
Baa - they are pretty though ;-)
Woooa Wallaby i'll need a day off from slobbing to read all that! I skipped to the end and you where talking about stocks and shares,.... on that point you lost me. lol
You got the subtle joke about hitlers babies and me being blonde with blue eyes. lol And the 3 seater merc, sorry thats my works van. I agree i wouldn't choose a merc but its part of the fleet. The Audii is the toy, i am irresposible and a danger to the public in it and i really don't care.lol It's just good fun to drive. Heated leather seats climate control. Plus the advantage that it sticks to the road like sick on the pub floor on a sunday morning!
Tea tonight
Well after xmas i got put on a diet. i got up to 14stone 8 and really i need to be about 13 stone something. I'm a big fat capatilist!
So its goahead bars and weightwatchers ready meals! Covered in plastic and non recyclable packaging. But hey atleast i'll be lighter.
Baa Real chinese food is odd. I ate Dog out there once.... Not nice!
Mike
We can all get very overwhelmed by thoughts of what is happening to our lovely planet. I just try to look after what I can and hope there are enough like-minded people to make a difference.
On cars, I've had a Peugot 306 turbo diesel for nine years, it does 60 miles to the gallon and has hardly cost me more than its annual service, so I won't change it until it starts getting problems.
For dinner we are having herbed sautee potatoes, carrots, leek and cheese bake with a breadcrumb, nut and cheese topping, and some sort of apple pudding for afters. This will be washed down with home made dry sparkling cider or a 2005 vintage Redcurrant wine. All from home grown fruit and veg. - and the egg in the pudding.
The diet is starting next week!
Those Peugots 306 seem to do ok. We used to have one and it did alot of miles didn't break down much either.
I'm guessing your veggie or something as i don't see lamb cutlets on the menu.
I'm veggie too Mike, does that say something about like-minded people?????
I love the sounds of all your tasty food Pat, for me a Saturday night is a simple as I want it (which is mostly simple any other day of the week too!). Chips cooked in olive oil. That would maybe be the Chinese equivalent of a bowl of rice, or the bowl of rice might even have more goodness in it if it's whole rice.
Can't buy seeds, run a car, pay the mortgage, keep warm, AND eat well!
Never met 2 people that think the same yet! hehe.
I used to be Veggie,,, after a while you grow out of it. lol
Nowadays i like my food to scream a bit when i stab it with my fork. j/k
LOL - mike. I'm trying to eat more vegetables, but to me it isn't a meal if it doesn't include meat or fish ...... that's just me ;-) Pat - it sounds like a nice menu nontheless and it must be very satifsfying to be able to eat so much homegrown food. If I'd tried to do that - I'd starve .... lol
I'm only vegetarian today as I didn't get to the shop yesterday and we ate the salmon I'd got for the weekend on Friday as we had a visitor. We do eat vegetarian a few times a week though and it is easy when there are still lots of different veg in the garden. I have been trying to cut down on the red meat to try to help my arthritis and it seems to be working.
Rannveig - why don't your government build huge geothermally heated greenhouses lit by hydro electricity for each town where people could grow their own produce - like our allotments only nice and cosy. That would be a much more environmentally friendly idea than aluminium factories and your fruit and veg should be a lot cheaper.
Just a flight of fancy - I'm sure the financial constraints would rule it out.
Hey Pat not sure Ranveig would let them build an Aluminium factory that makes greenhouse frames.Lol
I reckon the smell of sulpher would taint the veg grown in that big greenhouse anyway. heheh
You would have to grow egg plants Ranveig.
Her who must be obeyed is a veggie so i eat veggie alot. She does cook meat for me a bit. But since cooking and cleaning is a ladies job i can't really complain. j/k
"round about the cauldron go,
in the poisoned entrails throw..." Shakespear
which brings us to three conclusions:
1) when the company is good, the discussion never ends - and I am happy I managed to get you all under the Christmas tree, your mouthes never stopping, God bless you all....
2) Following a feast, there are no specific dietary traditions - people eat what they can get hold of, be it weightwatchers or chinese-style british tripe
3) Baa, I am afraid the crowd will not follow you to the new thread, in the same mood and with the same eloquence - it is known the atmosphere of a company is static and cannot be worked with easily, but I will join to show my good will and see what will happen
So, my good chaps, I thank you all for your patience, advice, opinions, electri city, geothermy, peugeots, veggies, recycles, and what not. Now the trees are most gone, and the few remaining will go shortly.
from my corner of the Earth, I really honestly wish you all a very healthy year, with
LESS WORRIES, LESS MEDICATION, LESS POLLUTION, LESS STRESS
and more and more SYMPATHY FOR THOSE UNHAPPY, THOSE UNFORTUNATE, THOSE WHO DO NOT UNDERSTAND US,
and most of all, some relaxation of our own minds, which we drown merciless in an ocean of info, techno, and artificial intelligence, because the real one is missing.........
"and excellent luck is also needed ........." Demosthenes
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There is always much truth in what you say Dimitri.
Posts are like wheat seed. As the farmer's seed sowing proverb goes, One for the sparrow, one for the crow, one to rot and one to grow ;)
Hey What is going on. I make a huge sexist comment and no reaction!...... I'm thinking treat it with the contempt i deserve.lol
Mike, I didn't notice the sexist remark - men always talk like that! I was ignoring the "up North" remarks.
Hehehe.
I lived down in Dorchester for a while and i was classed as the Northerner then. With the Northern Monkey comments and being reffered to as a coal miner etc. I loved it. lol
Mike, that is what we expect of you.
Interesting what you said Baa, now I'm wonder who of us on this thread is left to rot, who is for the crow, who is for the sparrow, and the one to grow. As there are 8 of us participating perhaps we could vote to allocate two people to each.
Dimitri, you play mind games with us. A game of Chess? You have knocked out the Castle, the Pawns appear to be gone too, the Knight is jumping around confusing the situation. The Bishop is standing by in readiness. The King can only make a short movement with each attempt, so he must be careful in which direction he follows or he will be checked. The whole community usually depends on one another, least the main players participate in folly and lose their followers and compatriots through battle. But beware of the Queen, she is a swift mover and capable of moving in many directions.
It has been an interesting game, I quote you:
"it is known the atmosphere of a company is static and cannot be worked with easily, but I will join to show my good will and see what will happen"
"and see what will happen"
Now Dimitri the cheeky, I thank you for your goodwill and good wishes and heartily return them.
I quote you once more:
"we drown merciless in an ocean of info, techno, and artificial intelligence, because the real one is missing........."
We drown only if we allow ourselves to, I don't know whose real intelligence is missing, I certainly speak only for myself in that I have always used my eyes and thoughts rather than what I am led to believe.
Check........Mate. How does the saying go? Two can play this game.
So, now you have seen what happened! All in good humour of course. The thinker is being made to think.
"Interesting what you said Baa, now I'm wonder who of us on this thread is left to rot, who is for the crow, who is for the sparrow, and the one to grow."
I'm sorry you took it that way Wallaby1, I was talking about posts/words not people, hence "Posts are like wheat seed." regarding Dimitri's comment about my thread. I've seen posts from all kinds of members left to rot or go to the birds and others grow into wonderful discussions just like this one has. I've neither the imagination, time nor interest to carefully construct novels between lines. Anyone who wants to catagorise themselves can to do it without my aid ;) I for one endeavour to remain outside any one box.
Oh no Baa, I was joking!
Wallaby you are fun, hehe you will be calling your self Ms next. haha.
Far too many quotes and trying to play games, i'm wondering who feels better after reading it? lol
Not sure who you where calling a queen in that game of chess. lol
Back to enviroment stuff just watching tv and saw something interesting. I'm very much of the opinion that too many people are jumping on the enviromental band wagon, especially when its easy to spot!
Nearly everyone is complaining about aircraft polution at the moment moaning on and on about cheaper flights killing the planet.
Sky news just did a report and that stated that air craft only produce 3% of the carbon dioxide! Industry gives off 40% During the last 15 years Aircraft have lowered emmisions even though flights have increased because engines are more efficent.
So surely we cant stop air travel we could propbably slow the increase down by taxing it harder. But people will still fly!
The other one i heard this week was that bottled water was killing the world! I know the bottes are bad but if they are recycled then its better than some food and drink. So are we supposed to collect rain water to drink now? My water company uses plastic pipes, how many of those are recycled?
I'm don't get this at all!
We need to encourage change not stop the developed world in its tracks, dont we?