If you were granted any one lily that you don't have for a holiday wish, what one would it be? Remember, it's a holiday LILY wish......
Mine would be Lilium gloriosoides (or a double oriental offering from Faraway Flowers, taking a very close second)
A Holiday Lily Wish
Oh I would go with the gloriowhatsit of course!
Oh wow, my lily tastes isn't as well refined as you guys. I'm basically easy. I'd take what ever Santa gave me. :)
Yeah, but Ticker, you get to pick! Santa's bringing whatever YOU want. What'll you have?
Well, I was into speckles last summer, be it hosta or lilies, so... I guess some of the Tango lilies would be nice. But I also like the American series... But really, I'm an equal opportunity lily lover. :)
I've wrote out my 2007 Wish List a few weeks ago and the catalogs aren't even out yet. Here's what I would be happy with:
SIlver Chimes - A
Tinkerbell - A
Seafarer - A
China Express - A
Sapporo - O
Eurydice - A
Meriwether - A
Doeskin - A
Summit - A
Red Velvet - A
Orange Crush - OT
Apricot Ice - OT
Giggle Button - O
Jubileo - A
Salsa - A
Buff Pixie - A
Glacier - M
Golden Belles - AA
Ivory Belles - AA
First Crown - OA
Orania - OT
Now that looks like a list I can appreciate as well! Lots of great selections in there, Beak. I hope Santa makes it through the chimney with that one, well, not if he gets his stock from Buggy Crazy ;0)
Seriously, great list....
Well, if Santa can't find me a cold hardy strain of gloriosoides, then I'd take that wonderous strain of L. auratum var. platyphyllum(I think) that Warren Summers showed us at our Northstar Lily Society education meeting last spring. The name is in my notes - if I could find them. You know the one I mean, Santa: the slightly ruffled petals, heavily spotted, light yellow midrib ending in a small red brushmark at two-thirds the length of the petal.
And if that is to difficult, a hardy Nomocharis sp. would be nice. Barring that, some variations in Lilium mackliniae, and if that can't be found . . . .
Gee beaker, that is a long list of one wishes.
I see rareplants has gloriowhatsits now, and some other desirables, but I think Santa may disapprove if I ask for any more, I think I got my presents early.
What does one ask for when Santa has alreay delivered gloriowhatsits?
They have got L. fargesii which is green, and so sweet, they say the flower size is 2 to 3cm across. Is that cute or what? L. ciliatum looks like it could be interesting in person, I would love to find out. Then there is L. primulinum Rock's Variety, that could be another interesting person (one in).
http://www.rareplants.co.uk/prodtype.asp?PT_ID=114&strPageHistory=cat
Then L. japonicum albomarginatum has a delicate pink flush to it's swirling petals, and L papilliferum is really very striking red.
Santa I wonder if we could help Lefty out with some of those L auratum seeds I have just received. They don't quite have the red brush marks, but do have red spots.
"The "Queen of Lilies" with huge, heavily scented, horizontally held flowers in waxy white, banded with gold & spotted with crimson, on stems of 1m. or more in late summer."
Wallaby, I won't say no if you want to be my (un)secret Good Santa (again). And you already have my list to choose from. And I usually find some good lily spp. in the NARGS exchange too. Haven't heard back from Rainbow yet.
I have plenty, I'll ask santa if he has room on his sleigh when he makes his trip over. Good location origins too. I think someone else got the last of Rainbows packet of L majoense (somewhere, over the rainbow), so it's lucky Santa will be bringing some of those too.
I'll leave my Santa list for later, perhaps the NARGS exchange, will look at your list again too.
Lefty, best go back to your notes. The L. auratum var. platyphyllum I've seen do not have any spots. Also called the Golden Rayed Lily or Mountain Lily.
The description from Pacific Rim states:
This magnificent variety of Japan's "Mountain Lily" is native only to the Izu Shoto, a sprinkling of islets, some of them volcanic, not far south of Tokyo. It is more robust than plain L. auratum, with thicker, almost waxy petals and leaves; and it has few or no spots on its petals. Our plants are from stock propagated for the Species Lily Preservation Group. Their huge flowers, often 15-20 cm (6-8") across, rise on 140-cm (4'6") stems to perfume our garden for two or three weeks in July-August, especially in the evening. Easy in good garden loam and part-day sun. Zone 6.
It also states it is unavailable. The picture is from Rainyside Gardens.
What!!! Someone snagged Rainbow's last pack of majoense??? Well that person otta be taken out back-o-the barn and given a good wuppin'!!!
A small red brushmark sounds like maybe var. pictum? McRae describes the red as being variable...
Before I joined as a paying DG, I bought the Golden Rayed Lily from American Meadows. I saw it, never heard of it, loved it bought it and it never flowered, sent up a nice stalk though.
You guys have great wish lists and I am learning as I read. Now my list is longer......help......
Is this the lily above in conversation?
http://www.americanmeadows.com/Bulb_detail.cfm?itemid=702
pard, I hope you didn't get too bruised.
That is something like the lily magnolia, although that one is propogated in Holland and it shows some red on the midribs, I'm not sure if L auratum has that, that is the name they have given it. It may be the one Lefty is talking about.
It needs special conditions, the rest of the description goes....
Original collection : Japan, Honshu, Shizuoka Pref. Ex a D. Elick collection.
A spectacular Honshu endemic. A species of hill-slopes at quite low altitudes and likely to thrive best in good, loose, sandy loam in a warm, sunny site in the UK. Definitely not for a cool, wet, peaty place.
The packet also has the valley location.
I think this is more like it should look
http://www.retoric.com/liljor/l_auratum.html
Wallaby-- it was worth it;-)
According to the Lily Register, var. platyphyllum has fewer but more concentrated spots than the type. Since these are in commerce and are most likely seed grown I think you can expect some variation.
Oh yeah-- it does need special conditions, in particular the conditions that are NOT mine. The Lily Patch here has already had a brief dunkin' and I am sure there are more dunkin's to come. Apparently auratum grows fine on the flanks of Mt. Hood though, not surprising...
Wallaby, I liked your link much better than mine. I like those raised spots =^..^=
Santa has paid me a visit this morning, he brought me my seeds from Jim Almond. He gave me 3 packets free, L. superbum (20) (again, but it gives more chances of getting some and to compare), L. sargentiae (17) (need to look it up) L. pardalinum ssp wigginsii (20) (that one I like).
pard, I haven't counted the L. auratum seeds but I think I could spare you a few if you want to try it. You could grow some in a pot?
magnolia, if mine look like that I will be well pleased!
edited L. sargentias (as he had written) to sargentiae. if it looks like this pic I will be pleased
http://www.quarryhillbg.org/Articles/Lilies%20of%20Quarryhill/L%20sargentiae%20lg.htm
I did search that before and looked at the pic on PBS which doesn't show it like this.
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I don't know for sure which auratum it is I want. From memory, particulars can become wanting. But Santa knows. If I could just find my notes . . . maybe he could help me with that too! Warren Summer's slide photo is burned into my brain, but the name? Heck. But it was unlike the typical whatever that he showed us also. Maybe it was a cross of pictum and ? It's a mystery at the moment.
Here's my first choice.... Sun God from plantlilies.com and I'd find quite a few others without much looking. Those double orientals intrigue me also.
Looks like Santa's sleigh will be bulb heavy this year! Don't forget to leave the reindeer a little treat for the extra work....
May the magic of the season be upon you and yours.
Lefty, I received the Select Seeds catalog yesterday and on page 66 they have a lily pictured called Goldband Lily. It has the red spotting that I think you are looking for. The description indicated just L auratum - once called the Golden Rayed Lily of Japan. It also said to plant these 9 - 12 inches deep, to shade the lower stems and that these were biennials. I didn't know there were biennial lilies. Do you think that was a typo? 3/$9.75.
I found this in a description of L auratum seaching Google:
"The life span of this plant is significantly shorter than that of its descendants, (around 3 or 4 years), so learning to help this plant reproduce itself is key for the gardener."
Beak-- I received the Select Seeds today also. The biennials they are refering to are the foxgloves and Canterbury bells:-) Unfortunately in my garden L. auratum wasn't even an annual; it was gone before finishing it's maiden bloom. It requires the absolutely mostest bestest drainage or it will be gone. It's native habitat is volcanic, pumacey soils.
Hi Pard, well, that's not how I read the blurb. Could be they wrote it wrong. Lord knows I do enough of that myself.
I read somewhere about preparing planting holes for Liatris by putting a few inches of course sand at the bottom of the hole. I suppose you could try something like that to promote better drainage. I would imagine with all the rain you get that it would be challenging to grow anything that likes dry feet. I bet it would be a good candidate for a raised bed.
Yes, I think if you want to successfully grow auratum you need a raised bed and some very friable growing medium. Yesterday one of my lily beds was about 50% under water. This is the same bed auratum was in several years ago. Surprisingly most of the lilies manage to survive because the water slowly drains away when the rain stops.
I got the Select Seed catalog too. Pard is right. The auratum pic is sure a nice one, but still not even close to the one I remember from Warren Summers. Orientals want acid soil too. Is volcanic "soil" acid?
Looks like they like acidic soil
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lilium_auratum
Well there is a number of species I would like from rareplants.co.uk , and various other sources. Purchasing anything from another country always seems pricey though :*(
L. pardalinum
L. leichtlinii
L. davidii
L. ciliatum
L. fargesii On, and on, and on...
Whatever is cold hardy to 4b-5a :*)