An Interesting New Project for 2007

Fort Lauderdale, FL(Zone 10b)

For a couple of years now i have been watching several brugs whose flowers show lavender hues in their coloration. There are 3 in my collection. Taylor Dawn, Serendipidity, and Miss Caylie ( a new cross by Brenda Delph) all have this characteristic lavender overtone to their blooms. This year I decided to start a project that will probably be several years in the making. I'm crossing these brugs in an attempt to get our first true lavender brugmansia. A project like this will most likely be several years in the making because several generations will probably have to be crossed back to each other in order to isolate a strong lavender gene. Taylor Dawn and Serendipidity are the only two brugs I have at the moment that were large enough to produce blooms. I have been successful with a Serendipidty x Taylor Dawn cross. In fact I have been VERY successful with this cross. There are now 5 pods that have set on Serendipidity. That's a lot of seed. I am hoping to recruit some people from DG to grow out some of these seed when the pods mature in a few months. The idea is that we will select the best seedlings (those showing the most lavender in their flowers) to be crossed back to each other. This is a bit of a commitment because it takes at least a year before a seedling will produce flowers. I figure 2007 is as good a year as any to start this endeavor.
So in few months I will be asking some of our more dedicated and serious growers here on DG to try out some of this seed. We will then all work together in stage two, selecting the best flowers for crossing. Then we begin trading pollen with each other in an attempt to achieve our goal of a more lavender brugmansia. With a commitment like this, you have to be serious about sticking with it...i know we can do this. The more of this seed that we grow out the more of a selection we will have to cross back to. I also know Brenda will be doing some crossing with Miss Caylie. I have sent her some TD and Serendipidity pollen to work with. So we may have some more genetic material to play with later on down the line.
Does this sound interesting to anyone? Please, only the serious people should consider this. This is not a free seed giveaway. We will be growing with a purpose and hopefully with some satisfaction in the end.

This first picture is of Serendipidy. When the bloom first opens she shows lavender even before she turns pink. The pink, that she eventually matures to, has lavender overtones to the pink. From these pictures of early blooms there is no denying that she has lavender in her genes somewhere.



This message was edited Dec 14, 2006 11:44 AM

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Fort Lauderdale, FL(Zone 10b)

This is Taylor Dawn. She doesn't have a distinct lavender phase like Serendipidy does, but her flowers definitely show lavender hues to the pink corolla...you may not be able to tell from the picture but ask anyone who grows this plant. There is a definite lavender tone to the bloom.
Both of these plants are nice breeding stock and the plants bloom frequently and heavy so the seedlings should be a nice addition to anyones collection.

This is Taylor Dawn



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Jacksonville, FL(Zone 9a)

Gary, Sent you a email.

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Jeffersonville, IN(Zone 6b)

You have another D-mail, Gary.

Lodi, CA(Zone 9b)

Santa? Is that you?? You got my letter didn't you!!

Fort Lauderdale, FL(Zone 10b)

Ho, Ho, Ho!!

Vancleave, MS(Zone 8b)

great idea Gary

Have you seen Tatiana? :-)
Hi Gary, it's me Liz :-)

Fort Lauderdale, FL(Zone 10b)

I know it's you Liz...i was not aware that tatiana has the lavender hue. I guess I have never really seen a good picture of it...DonnaB was nice enough to send me some pollen. Is this pollen something that I should be using in association with the project?

I saw a photo of Tatiana somewhere on this thread...
Did you know that Hibiscus breeders use brown flowers to induce blueish colorations? I remember talking to Volker about this sometime back.
If I'm not mistaken, there's a very brown Brugmansia available...I'd have to hunt down a photo for you - German of course, maybe difficult to obtain, but there's always the possibility of pollen.

Found it! See attached photo... It's called Bergfever or Bergfeuer ... It looks pretty grim, but it has those mysterious browns that just might be interesting if crossed with a somewhat violet flower. In Hibiscus, brown coloration tend to deepen the red element and send it toward indigo! :-)

Here's the site for the breeder: http://www.engelstrompeten.de/bergfeuer.htm

If you get one...remember little old me. :-)

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Adrian, MI(Zone 5b)

Good luck!! I hope you succeed with your project!
This would be wonderful for all of us!
Bonnie

Vancleave, MS(Zone 8b)

tsk, tsk Gary. I post recent pics on both here and the other website a few weeks ago lol. Last pic is the darkest
http://davesgarden.com/forums/fp.php?pid=2950956

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Fort Lauderdale, FL(Zone 10b)

i don't see a lavender hue Donna....but it could be the picture. Does it carry that lavender overtone Donna?

Vancleave, MS(Zone 8b)

I have never thought so Gary. It gets almost red looking in summer

Fort Lauderdale, FL(Zone 10b)

Ok. I did see the pics of tatiana when you posted it...never made a mental note for the project because I didn't notice any underlying tones that might be useful here...She is very pretty though

San Leandro, CA(Zone 9b)

Great project, Gary! What fun too. I wish you the best of luck!

Kannapolis, NC(Zone 7b)

Best of luck, Gary.

I saw Tatiana at this stage and thought it might do.
http://davesgarden.com/forums/fp.php?pid=2942402

Perhaps, it was the lighting that cave it a lavender cast.

Vancleave, MS(Zone 8b)

yes Liz she is right next to a grow light in the Floridaroom

(Mary) Poway, CA(Zone 10a)

Good luck Gary!

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