Now will any of the seeds from the cones below be any good?
Seeds from Cones
No reason why not, provided there are other cedars nearby for cross-pollination.
For the best results, extract the seeds from the firm, hard cones (October 2006 - ripened), not the old soft ones (October 2005 - ripened; seeds might be rancid). Soak the cones in iced water (+0.5°C or less) for 3 or 4 days, then clamp the cone in a vice, and knock the top off with a hammer. Then pull the scales apart by hand to release the winged seeds. If it is still too tough to break up, soak it a few more days in iced water. Fertile seeds are plump with a fairly heavy feel; empty seeds are lightweight and slender (you'll soon be able to tell the difference after the first few). Store the seeds cold (+1°C) and dry over winter for spring sowing.
Resin
There's only a slight difference between Deodar Cedar and Lebanon Cedar cones - in Deodar Cedar, the scales are horizontally ridged, whereas in Lebanon Cedar they are smoother. Not easy to tell, but once you get your eye in, it is possible to tell.
The two also disintegrate in different ways; Deodar Cedar cones disintegrate when they dry out, whereas Lebanon Cedar cones disintegrate when they get soaked by slowly thawing and re-freezing winter snow. This correlates with their climates: Deodar Cedar gets a summer monsoon but a dry autumn/winter when the cones ripen, whereas Lebanon Cedar gets a very wet/snowy winter when the cones ripen.
In mild lowland areas like Britain and Bellingham WA, Lebanon Cedar cones don't get enough snow cover to make them break up properly, so the cones commonly stay part-open on the tree for another year or more after maturity - these are the cones that you are getting your 'roses' from.
Resin
I have some pics I will download later for you to take a look at. It's the needles I'm interested in now. I can tell the difference in needles and the way the cones disintegrate. I was at the park a couple hours today::)) Then off to the parents for the tree cutting. K~
I think this one is from the Lebani?
The last two cones are Cedrus deodara (Deodar Cedar) - ridged cone scales, and needles too long for Cedrus libani
Resin
OK, then I need to post the other pics to see the differences...How do I tell?????? It's making me crazy...Ok, I was already there, crazy, I have to know how to tellthe difference :>)
Post a Reply to this Thread
More Trees, Shrubs and Conifers Threads
-
Overwintering Southern Gem Magnolias
started by genevarose
last post by genevaroseJul 11, 20251Jul 11, 2025 -
Sassafras (Male, I think) and suckers
started by MrMoundshroud
last post by MrMoundshroudAug 14, 20250Aug 14, 2025 -
What keeps pulling out my seedlings
started by Nutplanter
last post by NutplanterSep 06, 20251Sep 06, 2025 -
Starting Pine Trees for Christmas 2026
started by ScotsPineChristmas
last post by ScotsPineChristmasOct 17, 20250Oct 17, 2025 -
Where to find / buy Araucaria laubenfelsii?
started by phoenixjtn
last post by phoenixjtnJan 21, 20262Jan 21, 2026
