Seeds from Cones

Las Vegas, NV(Zone 8a)

Now will any of the seeds from the cones below be any good?

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Northumberland, United Kingdom(Zone 9a)

No reason why not, provided there are other cedars nearby for cross-pollination.

For the best results, extract the seeds from the firm, hard cones (October 2006 - ripened), not the old soft ones (October 2005 - ripened; seeds might be rancid). Soak the cones in iced water (+0.5°C or less) for 3 or 4 days, then clamp the cone in a vice, and knock the top off with a hammer. Then pull the scales apart by hand to release the winged seeds. If it is still too tough to break up, soak it a few more days in iced water. Fertile seeds are plump with a fairly heavy feel; empty seeds are lightweight and slender (you'll soon be able to tell the difference after the first few). Store the seeds cold (+1°C) and dry over winter for spring sowing.

Resin

Las Vegas, NV(Zone 8a)

Great! Thanks, I'll try. Now what about all the cones that feel from the tree because of wind or that I took from the branches that broke and fell?

I'm confused on trying to tell the difference between the cedars! The cones all look the same but a little different?

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Las Vegas, NV(Zone 8a)

I'll go out with camera today to get better pics of trees.
I'm going to email University.
i'm not a tree fanatic but I want to know what is what now! LOL

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Las Vegas, NV(Zone 8a)

from park

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Las Vegas, NV(Zone 8a)

These were from next door dried in the oven. The others had dried natually.
Thanks!

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Northumberland, United Kingdom(Zone 9a)

There's only a slight difference between Deodar Cedar and Lebanon Cedar cones - in Deodar Cedar, the scales are horizontally ridged, whereas in Lebanon Cedar they are smoother. Not easy to tell, but once you get your eye in, it is possible to tell.

The two also disintegrate in different ways; Deodar Cedar cones disintegrate when they dry out, whereas Lebanon Cedar cones disintegrate when they get soaked by slowly thawing and re-freezing winter snow. This correlates with their climates: Deodar Cedar gets a summer monsoon but a dry autumn/winter when the cones ripen, whereas Lebanon Cedar gets a very wet/snowy winter when the cones ripen.

In mild lowland areas like Britain and Bellingham WA, Lebanon Cedar cones don't get enough snow cover to make them break up properly, so the cones commonly stay part-open on the tree for another year or more after maturity - these are the cones that you are getting your 'roses' from.

Resin

Las Vegas, NV(Zone 8a)

I have some pics I will download later for you to take a look at. It's the needles I'm interested in now. I can tell the difference in needles and the way the cones disintegrate. I was at the park a couple hours today::)) Then off to the parents for the tree cutting. K~

Las Vegas, NV(Zone 8a)

Finally got a few more pics...The weather was do-able for pics a bit earlier, now it stinks again!
Here is the first tree, this cone was in the summer.

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Las Vegas, NV(Zone 8a)

Another one.........

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Las Vegas, NV(Zone 8a)

I think this one is from the Lebani?

Northumberland, United Kingdom(Zone 9a)

The last two cones are Cedrus deodara (Deodar Cedar) - ridged cone scales, and needles too long for Cedrus libani

Resin

Las Vegas, NV(Zone 8a)

OK, then I need to post the other pics to see the differences...How do I tell?????? It's making me crazy...Ok, I was already there, crazy, I have to know how to tellthe difference :>)

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