My Crazy Flying Saucers and a Few Others

This is my crazy Flying Saucers that puts out Heavenly Blue flowers.
One of each today. It also made the multi-colored bloom. I've tagged
the solid blooms for Ron. Just hope I get mature seed pods.

The Flying Saucers bloom is always very light on this mixed up glory.
Heavenly Blue stealing all the color?

Pink Tie Dye, strange bloom 2 weeks ago.

Ochracea bloom today

The small lavendar flowered that Ron says most likely came from the
Early Call Mixed, blooming out.

What a lovely, delicate plant!
Beth

Thanx Beth, They're all looking ratty now, so late in the season. I intend to enjoy
all the blooms until the ugly end. LOL



Pink Tie Dye

Another Pink Tie Dye

Flying Saucers/Heavenly Blue with ochracea in the background.

Flying Saucers in a different color, for me anyway.

I found this in the g house today. I just love it. Of course it's coming off the
Flying Saucers that thinks it's a Heavenly Blue. This was totaly different than
anything else it has produced. Looks almost like Flying Saucers with some speckles
mixed in ala shibori. What made me really like it is the color of the bars.
I apologize for the ugly lvs, spider mites. I gave it some Bayer 2 in 1 but should
have sprayed it too.

Patootie, wonderful pics - you'll get those of us with frosted vines through to next spring, yet.

Your vine that throws different patterns from bloom to bloom intrigues me, too. I need to go back through this forum and find the other MGs I remember being mentioned with this characteristic - Ron have any genes in particular been identified that cause this changability from bloom to bloom on a single vine in pattern and/or intensity of shading? Does anyone know which JMGs do this?

I have 2 seeds from vines from EmmaGrace's Yagurama seed in blue tones that did this and am hoping to make some crosses with them next year.

Have you tried swishing the pollen from the anthers onto the pistil? Maybe it needs some assistance with pollination?

I remember reading a couple of posts in 2005 from people who had bought seed packets labeled 'Heavenly Blue', but had different types of Ipomoea tricolor come from the packet in addition to 'Heavenly Blue' - mostly 'Flying Saucer', but I think 'Pearly Gates' showed up, too, along with 'Heavenly Blue'. In my garden, only 'Flying Saucers' made an appearance from that packet. Well, since I don't remember what brand of seeds they were, it's probably a moot point to wonder if anything environmentally unusual might have been going on where those seeds came from.

I also wonder if the inability to set seeds that mature links genetically with the variability among blossoms...?

Patootie, you know that strange bloom of Pink Tie Dye you showed in your 11/11/06 2:49 pm post? We had the same thing happen on one of our Hatsu Arashi flowers - another I. nil.

Keep posting these varying blooms - looks like it's going to be quite a gallery.

Blue, I may still try to pollenate this one. I have more blooms coming along.
It's really been fun to see what this vine will do from one day to the next.
The Pink Tie Dye looked like it had an enormous extra petal as if it should have been
a separate flower. I noticed the xtra petals started only after the weather started cooling
off.
I will try and figure out which of my 3 pkts of Flying Saucers this vine came from.
I want to be sure and use the same pkt next yr. LOL. If there's one funky seed, I bet there are a few more in that pkt.
I'm going to look for the threads you mentioned, seems like I vaguely remember reading
those posts too.

sounds good - g'night

This taken Monday, 11/27/06. I thought it was a nice bloom.

A dbl stack. Carnea ssp fistulosa

Beautiful blooms!! Luv the one that you said had spider mites. Very unique!
:) Donna

This came up in Oct. No tag, but was a nice surprise when it bloomed yesterday.
Scarlett O"Hara not. My seed pkt shows the real Scarlett without the white throat

Thanks Donna, I thought it was a special bloom too.

Jackie

I take back every unkind thing I've ever said about pink flowers - love that Carnea. It amazes me how seemingly subtle differences can have such huge impacts. Was able to germinate a seed Ron sent me last summer of Ipomoea pandurata - talk about subtleties - there's something about the silky texture of that flower, not to mention the improbable throat of pink - if it gets through to next spring, it'll be the first time I will have ever seen one of those.

Thanks Blue, I agree about subtle differences.
I will also be growing pandurata next season. I've only seen it one time in person
when I gathered seeds about 6 yrs ago. It is a beauty

Jackie

I have a red cypress vine that comes up every yr in the g house floor. I should have cut
it down after the spider mites took over. I didn't so then the aphids arrived, courtesy of the ants and devastated all the foliage on my glory's on that side. On the other side of the g house, a single blue Clitoria was the
culprit, attracting spider mites that covered all the glory's on that side. This Clitoria
also established in the floor of the g house. I did not cut it because I wanted seeds.
This is a true Heavenly Blue, the foliage devastated by aphids but the flowers
still lovely.

This is Pink Tie Dye looking a different shade. I liked it.
11-20-06

Would something like Safer's insecticide spray that purportedly smothers insects like aphids with a light-weight oil be a good idea? I can tell you that using it on cuttings to send as trade is a very bad idea. What would be the least toxic remedy for mites? And, if the foregoing possibilities were to be useless, what other alternatives would folks on this forum use?

Very beautiful, Patootie - I didn't realize how color-starved I was until I saw your pics.

Thank you Blue. I went to Lowes 2 hours ago and purchased a ready to spray (Safers)
that the main ingredient is potassium salts of fatty acids. It shows "with seaweed extract". Apparantly the potassium salt is the seaweed.
I am going to spray in the g house tomorrow. The Bayer 2 in 1 will work but I needed something to get off to a faster start..
In a few days I will apply the Bayer systemic as a back-up.
Says it's effective on aphids, spider mites, whiteflies and other pests.
I will let everyone know. I have neem but left it out at 22 degrees. Sometimes I
just want to not have to mix it, just shake and spray. Let the battle begin. LOL

Jackie

Flying Saucers today. Always a light color

The small flowerd lavendar.

patootie - nice looking rick pink/lavender you have there,and I'm wondering what it is......I can't see enough of the leaves and sepals to determine the exact identity,but keep me in mind for a few seeds if it produces any...

TTY,...

Ron

Ron, thank you. This is the lavendar that probably came out of the early call mixed. The
blooms and the leaves are small.
I have gathered a few seeds and will save you some. I'm waiting to see if I get any seeds off my crazy vine to share. The lavendar has 2 blooms today so will try for a better photo.
A little embarassed as it also has bugs.Just keeping some of these to gather seeds.

Jackie

Ron, Hope you can see the sepals in this photo. I cannot get a good close-up.

Sepals visible in this pic.

This picture showing 2 different shapes to the lvs.

patootie, are those different leaves from the same seed or more than one?

Hey Jackie - The sepals are Ipomoea nil...the entire 'cordate' leaves look elongated...and the coloration of the flowers looks particularly rich...almost 'over-saturated'...

I think it's an interesting type...definitely not the usual 'Early Call Mix' type...

If it's indoors,you may want to do some hand pollination to insure maximum seed production...

TTY,...

Ron

Jude, One seed only. The only flowers have been the lavendar. Small lvs
and flowers.

Ron I have 8 seeds gathered so far. Some of the lvs are tiny, 1 inch by 1/2 inch. The largest leaf is no more than 2 inches across.

This was a lovely deeper blue than the picture shows.