I thought I would open a thread for all your valuable suggestions on what my sister could plant at her brand new home. The property only has a beautiful house now, and no trees at all. I have encountered a few that are highly commercialized (and genetically altered for ornamental puropses), and turn out to be the worst choice, ie. Bradford Pear. Why I wouldn't suggest that to anyone? (pictured below)
What are some wonderful trees for her to plant in Justin Texas (zone7b)?
What do you love about said 'wonderful' tree?
What Not to plant?
Why?
Any or all answers are appreciated very much, and will be carefully relayed to Jana!
DebMagnes
Pic: This is supposed to be a tree, there is a trunk in there somewhere :oO!
Help Sister Choose the Best Trees for Justin Texas Home
Bur oak, Q.macrocarpa.
Native to TX. Fast-growing in youth(2+ft/yr.), but has the potential to be there 400 years from now.
Little bothered by insect pests or diseases. Tolerant of a wide range of soil types & pH. Extremely drought-resistant once established. Largest leaves of the North American oaks. Great 'shade tree'. Large, low-tannin acorns with ornate frilly cap,highly sought after by crafters and wildlife. Thick, corky bark,even on 1 & 2 yr twigs/branches. Striking winter silhouette - the quintessential 'spooky old tree'.
Disadvantages: Not much in the way of fall color, and no showy flowers, but it's GREAT the other 50 weeks of the year. Will eventually become a very large tree; may eventually be overwhelming for a small postage-stamp yard.
Pinus echinata
Acer barbatum
Taxodium distichum
Prunus mexicana
Cercis canadensis var. mexicana
Quercus muehlengergii
Quercus shumardii
Quercus falcata
... jotting all this down ~~, thanks! I will make a folder with all your responses and maybe some pics for the ones I can find. I am certainly looking up all of what you listed escam, like I said. I respect the opinion of a guy with a handy chainsaw, lol. I trust ya.
Lucky, I have actually seen that Oak and the acorns are very pretty. Her yard is big enough for many different trees, including2 of that one I'm sure.
I will tally all after I get a number of posts...
I really appreciate this folks!
Common Name ? (Crataegus brachyacantha)
Sweetleaf (Symplocos tinctoria)
Snowbell (Halesia diptera)
? Oak (Quercus falcata) I'll second escambiaguy on this one
Shin Oak (Quercus sinuata var. breviloba)
? Oak (Quercus gravesii) I'll second escambiaguy on this one too
Turkey Oak (Quercus incana)
Red Buckeye (Aesculus pavia var. pavia)
Toothache Tree (Zanthoxylum clava-herculis)
Willowleaf Catalpa (Chilopsis linearis)
American Smoke Tree (Cotinus obovatus)
Inkberry (Ilex coriacea)
Lemonball Tree (Leucaena retusa)
Necklace Tree (Sophora affinis)
Red Mulberry (Morus rubra) NOT White Mulberry (Morus alba)
Murray Plum (Prunus murrayana)
I like Oaks, always have believed them to be staples in any landscape. I like fruiting trees, particularly those that have showy spring blooms. The Lemonball is one I've had my eye on for a while. It's quite interesting. If I could grow it where I live, I would. Same deal with the Toothache Tree. I've seen the bark of that and it's quite the conversation piece.
edited for misspelling, thanks kman.
This message was edited Jan 21, 2007 2:26 PM
I seem to have had better luck with live oaks than red oaks here. Peach, plum, almond, apple, pear(try one resistant to fire blight or spray with a bordeaux mixture), all seem to do good. I have clay soil and drowned my first batch of trees by folowing the advise of some of the nurseries of watering 2 or 3 times a week. If she has clay soil, she should birm the tree up a little above the surrounding land and only water when the top couple of inches dry out. I have had no luck at all with cherry trees. Take care, Mike
Very nice suggestions, Jana will appreciate it a lot!
Thank you Mike!
I am also in zone 7b. I guess I need to find out how to get that in my profile.
Just a couple of bits of info. to add to Equilibrium's excellent list.
"? Oak (Quercus falcata)..." Southern Red Oak
"Shin Oak (Quercus sinuata var. brevilob)..." It's most commonly known as Bastard Oak or Bigelow Oak, and probably just a typo, but it should be breviloba
"? Oak (Quercus gravesii)..." Is most commonly known as Chisos Red Oak, or Graves Oak. It's a good choice with good red fall colors occurring very late in the fall season(maybe even early winter). Canby Oak(Q. canbyi) is another similar Oak that is a good choice. It tends to be more evergreen, but can have similar good red fall colors, but usually this occurs in midwinter if at all. It's also sold in the DFW area.
"Turkey Oak (Quercus incana)..." Turkey Oak is Quercus laevis, while Quercus incana is Blue Jack Oak. Blue Jack Oak and Turkey Oak would only work well if DebMagnes sister happens to live in the narrow band of more acidic soil found around parts of Fort Worth and in between there and Dallas.(It looks possible based on where Justin, TX is located.)
I'd also second Quercus sinuata var. breviloba which is a wonderful small Oak that is tough as nails. It will only grow to about the size of a small Rebud Tree(Cercis canadensis) and it's bark is absolutely stunning! It has a flaky whitish gray thin bark with some orange and tan flaky spots, which makes it look like many tropical hardwoods and virtually no descriptions of it does it justice. It can have nice red fall colors sometimes also.
I'd add Monterrey Oak(Quercus polymorpha) also, it's a very nice evergreen Oak from Mexico, which does well in the DFW area. It will only grow to about 40' tall and wide or so.
Cedar Elm(Ulmus crassifolia) is another good performer in the DFW area. It's just about the nicest looking native Elm IMO and seems to be relatively disease resistant.
Chinese Pistachio(Pistachio chinensis) is hard to beat for fiery red fall color in the South.
Texas Red Oak(Quercus buckleyii) is another one that can have good red fall colors. It's often sold under the old scientific name of Quercus texana still (especially in Texas).
Shummard Oak (Quercus shummardii) I'll second. It's similar to Texas Red Oak, but larger growing(70'-80' vs. 40'-50') and can have good red fall colors. Both this Oak and Texas Red Oak are native to the DFW area and the parents of the recently talked about Quercus x sternbergii someone posted on this forum. I think the original Q. x sternbergii were collected from the DFW area too.
Plateau/Texas Live Oak(Quercus fusiformis) is another one that does very well in the DFW area. It's evergreen and related to the more familiar Southern Live Oak(Q. virginiana) but usually grows more upright and narrower than Southern Live Oak and is a bit more drought tolerant. It also grows a bit smaller than SLO.
Lacey Oak (Quercus laceyi) is another lesser known Oak with very nice glaucous-blue leaves and can have wonderful red fall colors. It's also very drought tolerant and while lesser known is sold in the DFW area, especially at native plant nurseries.
Soughtern Magnolia(Magnolia grandiflora) is an old standby which is another excellent choice. It has large tropical looking glossy medium to dark green foliage often with brown or orange-brown indumentum on the underneath part of the leaves. Some of the popular cultivars are 'Little Gem' which is a slower(and possibly smaller) grower that blooms for a VERY long time, 'D.D. Blanchard' which has extremely nice foliage with very orangey indumentum and the typical large white fragrant flowers(although some say it blooms less than most others) and 'Kay Parris' which is a newer cultivar that has excellent foliage and seems to flower longer than usual, but not as long as 'Little Gem'.
Caddo Maples (Acer saccharum although some argue it's A. barbatum or even A. grandidentatum) There are 2 cultivars named that are somewhat available in nurseries in the Southern Great Plains(It's relatively easy to find from Wichita, KS through Oklahoma City and Ardmore, OK. A bit more rare in DFW area though). One is simply called 'Caddo' and the other is 'Autumn Splendor'. Both trees are much much more heat and drought tolerant than typical Sugar Maple and don't suffer from leaf scorch and they both have the same fantastic fall colors of other Sugar Maples.
Chinquapin Oak(Quercus muhlenbergii) I'll second this as another tough as nails good choice. It's a medium grower with a good medium green leaf color and has decent yellow fall colors. It's extremely drought tolerant as well.
Lastly, I'll third the Bur Oak(Q. macrocarpa) suggestion. It grows to a potentially huge size with time, has large fiddle shaped dark green foliage, is tolerant of severe drought and heat(as well as severe cold) and is long lived. Although like Lucky said, it often only has brownish yellow fall colors, it can have nicer yellow fall colors on some specimens. It's a stalwart of the prairies from Southern Manitoba right on down through to Southern Texas.
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