Nyssa sylvatica?

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malusman Peoria, IL Oct 25, 2006

I've been keeping an eye on a tree which had me completely fooled a couple of years ago. Looking at the tree from the road, the bark resembled balsam poplar so I ignored the tree. Note: I'm not very familiar with poplars for which I'm thankful. Went back by it in the fall and it was completely yellow with red highlights. Closer look at the foliage showed Nyssa sylvatica. My question to you: How common is it for Nyssa to display the light colored bark. Both large ones that we have on grounds are dark trunked and nowhere nearly as dense in habit. The plant in Seneca Gardens a block or two north of the east entrance is also more airy.

Thanks in advance,
Ernie

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malusman Peoria, IL Oct 25, 2006

Foliage of the plant

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malusman Peoria, IL Oct 25, 2006

Fall color taken 2 years ago on 10-27. I do stand corrected as it appears to be more gold and red than yellow and red. A few more days should show whether or not this color repeats itself.

Regards,
Ernie

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ViburnumValley Scott County, KY(Zone 5b) Oct 27, 2006

I haven't seen every Nyssa in this hemisphere (though I saw a boatload this last weekend in TN, where every average roadside tree seem bent on a glossy firestorm). Your pictures look to be well within the average presentation of bark and foliage.

And how better to sell an average blackgum? Place it in front of run-of-the-mill silver maples. You can't lose.

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malusman Peoria, IL Oct 31, 2006

VV,

Thanks for your info on the tree. I wasn't expecting such a light bark and it threw me for a bit. The silver maple does make the attributes of a Nyssa quite clear as you said!

Regards,
Ernie

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PrairieGirlZ5 Thornton, IL Oct 31, 2006

Ernie~Thanks very much pal! You've solved a mystery for us, we've got a tree nearby (in the woods) beautiful orange color that really stands head & shoulders above the rest, now we know what it is.

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Kevin_5 Elburn, IL(Zone 5a) Oct 31, 2006

Are you sure PGZ5? That seems odd for your area. Sure its not a cherry--some of those have great fall color now.

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JodyC Palmyra, IL(Zone 5b) Oct 31, 2006

I know nothing about these trees..I was just reading the thread..but on CNN a few days ago it said more Red colors in acidic soil and more yellow leaves in alkaline soil...maybe that's the difference...

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PrairieGirlZ5 Thornton, IL Oct 31, 2006

Not odd at all, especially along the river's edge.

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Kevin_5 Elburn, IL(Zone 5a) Oct 31, 2006

http://plants.usda.gov/java/county?state_name=Illinois&statefips=17&symbol=NYSY

I guess so--it just likes to hug that Indiana state line

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PrairieGirlZ5 Thornton, IL Oct 31, 2006

yep, I'm hugging it too! :0)

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