Pseudotsuga?

Which Pseudotsuga is this please?

Pseudotsuga menziesii var. glauca

Why thank you! xoxo

It wasn't quite menziesii but I couldn't put my finger on why it wasn't. I figured it might possibly be a cultivar that I wasn't running into photos of for comparison. I'm not good with conifers. I like them very much but I'm not good with them.

I like conifers too, that's a great photo. Is it your tree? I'm like terryr, can't take a pic to save my life, but keep trying.

Nope, not my tree. I found that and thought it was a real beauty. The straight species is real nice too.

As is the 'Pendula' that growin posted in plant files, that looks like a dinosaur! :0)

Agree, Pseudotsuga menziesii subsp. glauca

Resin

Here's a photo of the straight species-

editing to add this is not a photo of the straight species. This is also var. glauca

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And another-

editing to add this is not a photo of the straight species. This is also var. glauca

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I was happy with the images I caught. On the same day I took this photo. I know it is common but there was something about it that I really liked-

I am confused. Is this a true fir? If so, why the pendulous cones?? The more I Iearn, the less I know...

oops, we cross-posted. Nice texture in the last one!

I don't think it's a true Fir but best to leave that to resin to explain.

Glad you spotted the texture. That's what I liked too. Here's another-

Douglas fir (or Douglasfir) is a true Pseudotsuga, not an Abies. It is in the Pinaceae like the true firs, but more like cousins.

Anyone can be forgiven the mixup with this species; it has had up to 20 different names since 1803 before taxonomists settled on this one around 1990.

Then why the Pseudo in the name?

It was always my understanding that Tsuga as well as a few others were true Firs? Is this incorrect?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas-fir

Tsuga is hemlock, not fir (Abies), but also a relative in the Pinaceae.

Equil, the pics above show Pseudotsuga menziesii var glauca but not the straight species. The colour isn't quite right and the seed tails are too long. On the straight species the tails don't stick out as much and are held close to the cone. The glauca has bluish foliage and the tails stick out. The story goes that the squirrels were scared off so they hid in the Douglas Fir cones and you see their tails (local tale). I'll try and get a pic if the rain stops. There's a large specimen 2 houses down and many acres about a dozen blocks away. Your Thuja plicata looks like the one I have in the front yard. I also like the spray foliage and how the cones hug the sprays. Finding the weeping Douglas Fir was a treat - I really liked it.

Photos from two different trees. The last photos came from a tree at the Rotary Gardens in Janesville Wisconsin. I went to a RU with a few other people. Mike and me and a few other tree people took off and went exploring on our own. We ran into one of the botanists and talked with him for a little bit about what that tree was. He told us what it was but also pointed out the plant name stake that was hidden under the lowest boughs of the plant. Won't be the first time a tree was mislabeled and certainly won't be the last however the cones were squatter and more like a Christmas ornament than ver. glauca. Here's another photo of pinecones from another area on the tree I thought was the straight species but I also have a photo of the entire tree-

editing to add this is not a photo of the straight species. This is also var. glauca

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The whole tree-

editing to add this is not a photo of the straight species. This is also var. glauca



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Correction, the photo posted by me at Oct 15, 2006 12:04 PM that says "And another-" came from the var. glauca tree but the photo directly above it came from the tree in Wisconsin with the thicker and squatter pine cones that was allegedly the straight species.

Hi Quillib

Thanks Resin, saved me from taking pics in the rain. There's the straight species. The "squirrel tails" are flat in the cone, foliage is a green, not blue.

It is distinctly greener. I can't compare much other than that the cones from the one glauca were squatter and chunkier than the other glauca but as with anything else, there must be variation present. I think I like the squat chunky cones better. The bracts appeal to me also.

Looks as if I've got a boatload of photos for the PlantFiles for var. glauca.

growin, when it stops raining will you please go take a motherload of photos of the straight species and post them either here or into the PlantFiles.

Yep, also of the native Populus. The var glauca is hardier to drought and cold. There are a few around town. The rain is coming down in buckets and even the cat is giving me a dirty look as if its my fault. The P. menziesii 'Pendula' certainly has a place in landscapes and collections and although it doesn't nearly come close to Sequoia gigantea 'Pendula', it seems elegant in its own way.

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