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phicks Lakeland, FL(Zone 9b) Oct 08, 2006

Was out walking the Bush this morning takeing pics came across this growing up a tree Regards Paul

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phicks Lakeland, FL(Zone 9b) Oct 08, 2006

one more Pic

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gardener2005 Baton Rouge area, LA(Zone 8b) Oct 08, 2006

It looks like Thunbergia Alata or black eyed susan vine. These are fun and easy to grow from seeds.

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phicks Lakeland, FL(Zone 9b) Oct 08, 2006

thanks Paul

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phicks Lakeland, FL(Zone 9b) Oct 08, 2006

Was Wondering if it could be Ipomoea obscura ?

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imzadi Jackson, SC(Zone 8a) Oct 09, 2006

look like a thungbergia to me too. i dont remeber obscura having a dark center but could be now.

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RON_CONVOLVULACEAE Netcong, NJ(Zone 5b) Oct 09, 2006

Hey Paul -

I agree with the assesments of gardener2005 and imzadi..the plant shown is not any type of convolvulaceae and certainly looks like Thunbergia alata as a quick check in the PlantFiles shows the following distinguishing features...

Thunbergia alata has

seedpods and large calystegia-like bracts
http://davesgarden.com/pf/showimage/85090/

leaf petioles that occur in pairs at the stem petiloe junction in contrast to all MG's which always have alternating leaves and the sepals are very different
http://davesgarden.com/pf/showimage/79014/
http://davesgarden.com/pf/showimage/19333/
http://davesgarden.com/pf/showimage/98663/
http://davesgarden.com/pf/showimage/14880/

dark color pigments along the entire length of the tube in Thunbergia with hairs sometimes at the mouth of the tube in Thunbergia,but no mouth hairs in Ipomoea obscura and dark pigmentation on Ipomoea obscura >only in the bottom of the tube
http://davesgarden.com/pf/showimage/38761/
http://davesgarden.com/pf/showimage/11004/
http://davesgarden.com/pf/showimage/11283/
pistil and stamens reccessed deep near the bottom of the inner tube
http://davesgarden.com/pf/showimage/12379/
http://davesgarden.com/pf/showimage/18438/
http://davesgarden.com/pf/showimage/46016/


Ipomoea obscura shows the following distinguishing features

Ipomoea obscura sideview showing
pistil and stamens clearly visible as lighter structures in the center of the tube and reaching upwards approximately to the mouth area of the tube
http://davesgarden.com/pf/showimage/51174/
alternating leaves
http://davesgarden.com/pf/showimage/106493/
sepals
http://davesgarden.com/pf/showimage/117491/


Hope that helps in clarifying the ID...

TTY,...

Ron

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phicks Lakeland, FL(Zone 9b) Oct 09, 2006

Thanks every one

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Xeramtheum Summerville, SC(Zone 8a) Oct 09, 2006

No question it is thungbergia aka Suzy Vine. I grew them on my split rail fence for a few years. For everyone else in the world they produced zillions of seeds. For me nary a 1. GRRRRRRR

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phicks Lakeland, FL(Zone 9b) Oct 09, 2006

LOL ill check for seeds and if any send you some

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leaflady Hughesville, MO(Zone 5a) Oct 11, 2006

Oh, goody, goody, I actually IDed it correctly!! Makes me feel very intellegent and good about what Powell Gardens and DG have managed to teach me.

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