This is one of the best blooms I saw on this in recent times. Since I could not go up to take a shot, tried it from under it, looking at the sky.
My Plumeria, grown from seed.....1
Very pretty. How tall is it and when did you plant it from seed?
Jeri
Hi Dinu,
That is a lovely seedling flower from the back! Do you do any grafting? I know some people that will cut a large piece out of the trunk and then graft the top portion to the bottom portion for a much lower tree. This is often done with seedlings since they get to be so tall.
I do it
Its called top grafting.
Ive done many like that this year.
Most took well.
It also provides center cuts to root and sell
Dinu, very nice...great sized flowers.
:-)
No I don't know much about grafting nor have I tried on other plants. Seems a good idea, but now I have just two of these growing. The second one is about to show its colour for the first time!! I'm waiting for it. This one is about 8 feet tall and is branching out quite well. I don't water it! It might just be getting enough moisture from the ground around it where I water my other plants. I think it is 4 years old now.
This message was edited Jun 11, 2007 11:41 PM
New set of blooms this season. The first.
I can't see the front of the flowers, but the backs sure are lovely!
Dinu very nice gives me hope i have alot of seedlings fine job!
Clare,
That is growing taller and taller, I can stand "under the litle tree" now! So only that view is possible.
You need a ladder buddy!! 8D
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I Have it Here. But I can't use it! LOL. Thanks for the idea anyway! Will surely consider it!
I will be top grafting 3 of my seedlings this month as they are going to be 8 foot by summers end.
I like em short and bushy and gnarly lookin ;)
Michael, you may want to explain that process for Dinu and the others. You are going to be cutting out the middle section and grafting the top to the bottom for a shorter plant right? Dinu has big trees so this would be a huge undertaking for him.
Not so big as you think unless you are small and need help.
I cut the tree at the top where I have about 12 inches of straight trunk.
I cut the bottom about 12 inches up from the soil.
I match the cuts so they can be grafted together.
A slant cut or v cut will do fine.
Use screws to hold the pieces firmly together
(if the trunk is thick enough otherwise pins or small galvanized finish nails)
Next wrap it nice and tight with tape
Then support both sides of the union with bamboo and tape.
Now support the entire tree with bamboo on minimum 2 sides.
Tie firm and go have a cold beer ;)
heres a pic of a fair size cutting supported on 1 side
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v515/Malestrom22/My%20Plumies/Grafts/?action=view¤t=MrsMalestromGraft6-06.jpg
The joint looks something like this.
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v515/Malestrom22/My%20Plumies/Grafts/?action=view¤t=GAOGraftUnion.jpg
I hope this helps ;)
This message was edited Aug 10, 2007 5:22 PM
Very nice, Michael!
Imagine this, I am revisiting this thread after a year!! No wonder so much has changed [is changing, in fact] in that period. Had not checked the links then, but I did today as I'm on the verge of losing my two plumerias by way of partition of the property between we two brothers and my garden is going to his half and I chose the other half where I will have to start a new garden, though smaller. Now I've to move [this would be my lost choice] these two plumerias into my half and I'm contemplating using cuttings and growing them in cement pots that are about a foot wide [square]. Where to cut, how to plant, what is the survival rate, how many cuttings I must make.... some information is required very urgently as a dividing compound wall will come up next week from when, I'll have difficult access to what was once "My Eden". Thanks for any advise I may get here.
seedlings usually root fast
take cuttngs!!
What about digging it up roots and all?
My friend here suggested last night that it will suffice when cut just about a foot of its stem from the ground and to have at least some root beneath it for good results too. I'm thinking of this option too after I cut the branches. I'm removing most of my plants from there because my brother is going to sell off his portion.
I would just dig them up cut all leaves off them and move them to another spot. roots and all by cutting the leaves its not so hard on it dig a hole bury the roots but now you need to stalk the plant so wind doesn't blow it over water it and you should be good to go :) Once you dig them up there not so heavy unless you just want to cut it
Here is today's picture of my two plumerias. Construction workers are inside doing and you can see a labour boy there. The dividing line is between our front door visible there and the garden arch seen on the left.
We posted at the same time... so returning to add a question. How deep do you think these roots would be?
This message was edited Aug 21, 2008 9:46 PM
Dinu, people dig up their plumerias all the time in the colder zones here, and they store them for the winter in their garages and basements. Those two can easily be dug up.
I would take a shovel and make cuts straight down all the way around the bases -- about 2 feet from the base of the trunk. Dig straight down about three feet and then see if you can lift the root ball with your shovel without tension. Keep digging around the perimeter straight down until you can free the root ball without too much breakage. If you do break some roots, the plumerias will easily recover once planted again and watered well. As Dana said, you may need to stake them for a while until they get established again.
Here's a picture of Paula's plumerias when she dug them up in the fall to store them. You can see that some are quite large. She planted these same plumerias the following spring.
You can also take cuttings that are about 12 inches long and root them, and you may want to do this also. Good luck!
I beat the heck out of mine and they love it
Dont be too ginger with em
Geter done ;)
That's some inspiration Clare! Will make attempts very soon. There are just two, unlike Paula's huge collection there!
Thanks so far.
Are you dividing the house to? Paul
Paul, you are bad!!! LOL
Yes, Phicks, dividing the house into two [two brothers]. I've dug up soil around one of the plumerias and I've asked the workers here to help me remove it. It has rained here nicely so that could become easier if done tomorrow.
Dinu I am up for trade if in the process you break a few limbs
Good luck, Dinu!
With the soil nicely wet, I shook both of them vigourously and they are now down as they were. Should I have to cut down the branches or can I replant them in full? Most of the roots must have come loose now. Only when they are pulled up with the help of more hands, this will be known. I look forward to responses on this. I've not yet chosen their spots.
ive transplanted with out cuting off limbs or leaves
Here is a picture of the bent down trees. One is visible, the other is obscured.
Dinu, get as much of the root ball as you can, and then you can replant without cutting limbs. You can remove some lower leaves to help alleviate any shock. Water well for the first few weeks until the roots get established again. You may have to stake the trees to keep them upright for a while as the tops will be heavier than the bottoms until the roots regrow. Now that it is partially dug up, I would finish and replant as quickly as possible to lessen the shock to the tree. If you have Superthrive or Vitamin B2 over there, you could add some to the water when you water it in after it is transplanted.
I would dig the holes of were they are going to. You know now how big and deep a hole you need for each. You don't need to take branches off. Could happen in the handling of the tree things happen. I would snip the leaves off but thats me not everyone would. Replant in ground not to go any deeper than before. Water it and you should be good thats my way every bodys different and has there ways of doing things I wouldn't let those roots hang out and dry out.
Thanks for the information. Can I plant it near the compound wall? How far it should be? Our wall has a brick foundation.
I would plant it at least 6 feet or 2 meters from the wall to give the branches room to spread out in unless all the branches will be above the wall. The root system needs about the same spread to regrow into. Plumeria trees can make do with less room, but the more room you give them to grow into, the bigger they will become.
Okay Clare. I was thinking of all that before I chose the spot. I look around in the yard this morning and the only choice for me is in one corner for one and probably near the gate, both these will have partial sunlight as trees are above the spots. Hope this is not such a hindrance.
Hi Dinu, I bet that spot will be fine. Hopefully, there is at least six hours of sunlight. If the area is too shady, you could run into some trouble getting flowers in the future. I would try it and see. You can always dig it up later if you decide that you don't like that spot.
No, it is unlikely to get 6 hours of sunlight. May be 4. The area I want to plant them are not free now - stones and tiles are kept haphazardly there. I've to first clear them.