Murasaki Jishi

Thia is what it is supposed to look like from Fothergill's wher I purchased it
http://www.fothergills.co.uk/en/morning-glory-murasaki-jishi-2256.aspx

This is what mine looks like and I'm not complaining!! LOL

Side view

This looks like it's going to be the same.

Thats really nice Paul

Very unusual and very pretty. Will be interesting to see this one bloom out.

Jackie

Looks like you have some variegation in the foliage which is a nice change from the typical green leaves of the star shaped flowers. Hopefully you will get some seed to grow again next year! Nice color and flower shape. - Arlan

Hmmmm ... that looks suspiciously familiar ... My Blue Picotee threw out one like that during the Messenger Saga. The flower in the link you provided looks like a blue picotee. I think they might be related in more ways then 1. I'm curious if anyone else has separated petals like this on picotee doubles, or perhaps it's something that escaped from Pandora's box that Arlan described in a previous post! I'll be interested to see more flowers.

X

This message was edited Sep 29, 2006 12:07 AM

luvsgrtdanes - I don't think the type advertised in the pictorial is the same strain that you received...this seems to be a very common occurence and is based on the fact that most suppliers obtain seeds from at least several different sources coupled with the fact that there are few people who can realistically differentiate between the many dfifferent stains of double and split petaled flowers...

Kyushu has many(!) different strains of doubles with split petals catalogued(and many look extremely similar!) and to try and sift through thousands of pictures to get all the different types organized and described is something I am working on...it can be brain draining to try and compare e.g. 10-15 types that look very similar,but show subtle differences >this can take many month hours until your eyeballs are falling out of their sockets and your head is unable to do any further legitimate discriminatory processing ..many strains also produce several variations that are part of the 'genetic nature of the beast'...

Based upon what I have seen advertised for sale and what seeds are actually provided >I would say that there are in fact many differing strains that are being offered and grown...and these multiple strains do not fit into a few easy simple marketing or common name type of 'pigeon holed' descriptions...


Just reporting some of my observational notes...

TTY,...

Ron

X, I remember that post. No messenger here. It's getting cool her hoping for a few more flowers. Skeptical on the seeds..

Ron how do you keep it all straight!! LOL

Well I have come to the conclusion that it probably wasn't Messenger that made the BP schizophrenic since it threw out another split flower on 9/18 after weeks and weeks of normals. Frankly, I like the split petaled flowers.

I don't know how Ron keeps it all straight either!

X

X where did you get your seeds? They look so much alike!!

If I remember correctly, I got the original seeds from Mikamoki Seeds about 3 years ago.. the messenger morning glory seed came from 3rd generation seeds. I still think is a small chance the Messenger might have had some part in what happened to this plant since it is the only one that has produced deformed flowers out of 15 plants grown from the original and subsequent seed.

X

Any changes in humidity and temperature to extremes from one to another may affect the blooms. I see since the cooler nights a definite change for smaller and split petaled similar to the pictures I have seen and some rather poor looking partly opened blooms on plants that were turning out georgeous blooms just days before. Then after a few warmer days and nights the blooms come back looking normal and beautiful again.

This is not an answer to anyones question or me trying to say this is true for all flowers all over America but this is an observation I made in my own garden.

And the pictures are lovely so I see why you aren`t complaining!!!

I though about the weather, wondered... I know my blue silk has turned pink!

That's interesting Gardner .. as I understand it, temperatures can affect flower color since colors are determined by enzymes and temperature can affect how quickly or slowly they metabolize. Don't know about characteristics like shape. I remember reading how the color of light can also cause changes to plant characteristics. I used to have a blue shade cloth on my greenhouse and all the plants in there were getting long and leggy subsequent research named the cause as the light being filtered to blue.

Just for the heck of it I am going to check all the dates on the wierd flowers and compare them to high and low temps for the days they appeared.

X

Xeramtheum - You mentioned

"as I understand it, temperatures can affect flower color since colors are determined by enzymes and temperature can affect how quickly or slowly they metabolize. Don't know about characteristics like shape."

Enzymes control/mediate how all (!) of the genes are expressed and coordinated...something to think about ...

TTY,...

Ron

Oooh very pretty!
:) Donna