Does anyone have calystegia sepium growing near them that has the pink type flowers? I have the type with white flowers and would like to try growing some of the pink ones, but I think they mostly grow in the east. I will be very resonsible and not let them escape, I have had the white ones growing here for years and they have not taken over. I have lost some of my growth where trees have blocked the sun. The calystegias hate shade! Is anyone in a position to collect some of the pink seeds?
baolvera - The Flower you posted above is Convolvulus arvensis...
TTY,...
Ron
Thanks, Ron. These do grow wild though, don't they?
This is the photo I should have used, I guess. It was listed as calystegia sepium on a website.
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This message was edited Sep 27, 2006 3:42 PM
I don't thik you are crazy. I've always loved these little beauties.
I have a mix of white mixed in with the white with pink stripes. If you want the white with pink stripes only, I cannot help you, but if you don't mind the pure white mixed in, I can send you some seeds.
-T
That is very pretty. Do you have a picture of yours Taylor? Could I try some of your seeds?
:) Donna
ohhh another to add to the wish list does anyone sell these??? i guess i need to move out texas way to see wild mgs. hehe we dont have any here but blue ones and purple fushia things.
They grow wild on the sandy and rocky beaches here in Maine
The pinkish Convolvulus arvensis as shown in the photo here
http://pics.davesgarden.com/pics/baolvera_1159303810_790.jpg
is native to Europe and has much smaller flowers than the
US native pinkish-rose colored Calystegia sepium as shown here
http://pics.davesgarden.com/pics/baolvera_1159383741_857.jpg
Both of the species depicted above can have a definite rosey-pink coloration that is not just an effect of the cold temperatures...
Calystegia hederacea looks very similar to the Calystegia sepium
http://www.genetics.or.jp/Asagao/Yoneda/PCD4764/C/26.jpg
http://web01.agri.pref.kanagawa.jp/nosoken/seisan/Kongetu-Hana/200106/Hana200106.htm
seeds and uncovered seedpod capsule
http://www.nilgs.affrc.go.jp/db/weedlist/contents/c065.jpg
Calystegia pubescens(syn japonica) looks similar to the Calystegia sepium,but with flowers that are usually all rose with little or no white striping...it comes in both single and double forms
http://taxa.soken.ac.jp/Asagao/J/PCD2522/htmls/05.html
http://www.encyber.com/plant/detail/784295/
http://hhana.biz/photod.php?photo=398
http://hhana.biz/photod.php?photo=832
http://www.flworld.com/flworld/data/plant/Calystegia-japonica-20030524-DSCF0001.JPG
http://www2.odn.ne.jp/kgwa/kabukuri/kabukuri_e/images/convolvu.jpg
http://davesgarden.com/pf/showimage/123034/
http://davesgarden.com/forums/t/641160/
The double form is usually listed as Calystegia hederacea,but based on the leaf shape and some historical notes ,I believe it is actually a double form of a cross between Calystegia hederacea and Calystegia pubescens (syn Calystegia japonica)
TTY,...
Ron
This message was edited Jul 9, 2008 2:43 PM
The reason these are so persistant, is because they form elaborate tuberous roots. They don't just form one fat tuber, they form a network of them.
The pink is truly the pink form. It is not a result of temperature.
Yes, Donna, I'll save you some. Ü
I like tubers...lol!
:) Donna
Donna - the rhizomes of Calystegia sepium and Convolvulus arvensis are about twice the diameter of the above ground stems >so they aren't very wide...
TTY,...
Ron
Oh, that's okay. I still ike tubers...lol!
:) Donna
Ron-
Maybe in NJ where you are, but not here in Texas, lol...
...you know what they say about Texas: "everything is bigger in Texas!"
They can live to be many years old and get very branched and deep. When you get part of it dug, it snaps and begins to grow from the parts left in the ground.
The roots are sort of in irregular "links" of thick and thin, so they'll snap easily.
Now, they aren't like a manroot, or anything, but yes, they can get very large, deep roots since they live for many, many years.
-T
seedpicker_TX -- Please post a photo of the Calystegia sepium or Convolvulus arvensis roots that you are referring to that are wide(!) like a tuber >i.e.,alot(!) wider(!) than the diameter(!) of the above ground stem...
I am very aware that the roots grow extremely long(!) and deep(!),but the diameter(!) of the rhizomes are at most only 2 to 3 times the diameter(!) of the above ground stems >approx.the diameter of a pencil...if yours are alot wider(!) than that,then you have something previously undocumented that I would be extremely interested to see...
TTY,...
Ron
This message was edited Oct 3, 2006 5:34 AM
Ron-
I'm not going to get into it with you.
Believe me,.. or don't.
The "proof" you are asking/demanding has long been thrown in the trash when I had some workers dig a deep hole in that area.
I know you take great interest in the convolvulaceae family, but please be aware your comments can sometimes be construed as argumentative and in this case, insinuating that I'm incorrect.
Please take into consideration that things grow differently in different areas/climates. You live in NJ. That is a very different place than Texas.
-T
Taylor could youplease save me a couple of seeds?
Sure, Marie.
I'll send you some. Ü
-T
seedpicker_TX - The forums are for discussion of the plants and what you are describing is unusual for either of the plants mentioned...I mentioned being interested to see any wide diameter roots that you may have access to...there is no 'demand' for anything...all sharing is most certainly optional...
Civil discussion and comparison of plant parts is certainly in order and to be expected in a forum dedicated to the discussion of plants...reasons,features and aspects offered in favor of a particular ID are balanced with those reasons,aspects and features that may tend towards an different ID...arguments in this sense are the basis of the scientific process and the basis of learning...
When someone shares about features that are unusual for a particular species >i inquire further about those features and I have certainly welcomed(!) any and all questions regarding any ID's that I have offered > without any undue indignancy or 'offence' taken because of assenting or dissenting viewpoints...
There are going to be differences of opinions regarding ID's and the objective facts supporting any opinions in a forum devoted to plants...so long as these varying dissenting opinions are presented in an orderly manner there is no reason to be 'threatened' or 'insulted'...we are all here to share and enjoy learning as a supportive community and a supportive community that is allowed to grow in knowledge is one that is allowed to question....if questioning the specifics regarding the identity of a plant is stifled >then learning is significantly stymied...
If questions and dissenting opinions are supressed and eliminated because anyone feels insulted or threatened by a dissenting opinion > then the entire scientific process is undermined and effectively obliterated.
Straightforward questions and differences in viewpoints that are voiced are totally in order and differing viewpoints are not per se a form of 'malice'...
I look forward to the continued high quality of sharing that takes place in the forums and this quality of sharing is enhanced by the ability to voice different points of view and includes the ability to question any material that is presented...
TTY,...
Ron
