HELP! MOVING IN WINTER

UTICA,, MI(Zone 5b)

Hello,
I am planning on moving during the winter. Is it possible for me to pull up my lily bulbs and store them during the winter and replant them in the spring. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you!

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Winnipeg, MB(Zone 2b)

Yes indeedy. After frost leave them as long as you can in the ground so they can keep on storing the starch etc that they need. Then, before ground freezes, dig them, knock off as much soil as possible. Next, let them dry for awhile - a day or 2 - then put into ziplock baggies with some dry peat moss, vermiculite -wood shavings/sawdust are not good - Make sure you label each baggie. Pop baggies into your fridge crisper for the winter till you are ready to plant them out at your new house.

Just one thing. When making beds for them NO MANURE>

I always dig up my lilies that dont survive here and bag them into the fridge for the winter. Works well for me. Fridge, not freezer. Seeds go in the freezer, bulbs in the crisper.

inanda

UTICA,, MI(Zone 5b)

Can I store them in a basement or someplace else that is cool. I have about 1000 of them(asiatics, orientals, trumpet, orienpet, and tigers.) Thank you for all the info. Trish

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Winnipeg, MB(Zone 2b)

Yep, as cool as possible. Keep tabs om them to make sure they are not sprouting, In that case, hate to say you might have to pot them up.

What month are you moving?
inanda

UTICA,, MI(Zone 5b)

Just got approved for the mortgage. So right now I am shopping trying to find the perfect spot. I am guessing Febuary since that will be the coldest and worst time to move. My Luck.
I divided alot of my plants and planted them at friends and family houses so there is hope of getting divisions back. But I want to bring as much as possible with me.
So many of them are gifts and things that I started from seed.
Trish

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Lincoln, NE(Zone 5b)

Congratulations! So glad to have you join us here in the Lily Forum. Looking forward to seeing more of your garden.

UTICA,, MI(Zone 5b)

Thank you for the warm welcome.

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Winnipeg, MB(Zone 2b)

Ladytrish, what is the name of that pink lily?
inanda

UTICA,, MI(Zone 5b)

This one is a seedling that I got from my mother. I do not know the names of most of them. I just call them pretty!!

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Willamette Valley, OR(Zone 8a)

Sorry LadyTrish-- my bet is it's virussed. If you know which one this is you should dig and toss it or it will get spread to your other lilies and eventually destroy them.

UTICA,, MI(Zone 5b)

What do you mean? It has grown like this since I got it (2-3 years). Please explain. Trish

UTICA,, MI(Zone 5b)

It is next to lollipop. a red one and a double yellow.

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Willamette Valley, OR(Zone 8a)

That type of splotchy color is symptomatic of a virus infection. Others here may weigh in with an opinion. Do any of your other lilies show similar color breaking?

UTICA,, MI(Zone 5b)

No, I got this from my mother and hers shows just a little varigation in color. A neighbor said that some of my plants (sum and substance leaves are splotchy) do this because I use alot of compost and peat. I do not know.
I am moving should I throw this one away or just keep it separate and see what it does in the new location? Thank you! trish

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UTICA,, MI(Zone 5b)

these are the ones next to them.

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Willamette Valley, OR(Zone 8a)

I am not aware of compost and peat causing this in lilies. Rather it is a virus disease spread by sucking insects such as aphids. If you received it like this from your mother it may not have spread yet (especially if you have good control of insects) but with some lilies it may take more than 1 year to build up enough virus to show symptoms. It can be particularly noticeable with red lilies.

You can use google image and type in "lily virus" to see some examples. I tried posting the urls but they were too long and the system here rejected them:-(

If it were me I would get rid of it to be on the safe side. Leaving it in place for new occupants wouldn't be good either. And if it IS virussed (I think it is) it could spread to the neighbors gardens! My understanding is that it is the same virus that causes tulips to have broken color.

I must say your lily garden is beautiful! Very colorful and cheery for summer!

UTICA,, MI(Zone 5b)

I will get rid of it just to be safe. What is posting url?
This is one of my other beds. Thank you for the compliment and the help on this.
Trish

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Saint Bonifacius, MN(Zone 4a)

I must say, those are the most beautifully virused lilies I have ever seen. But I still wouldn't keep them around. Pard is right: toss them.

Willamette Valley, OR(Zone 8a)

The urls are the links that you could click on that would take you right to the photographs. I was trying to make it easy for you:-)

When you get settled and your lilies are growing again you must post pictures here! In return we will all ooh and ahh and give you lots of compliments! We looooove lilies!

Lincoln, NE(Zone 5b)

Since you mentioned having the problem with Hostas too ~ you should know that there is a Virus X that affects hostas in much the same way with mottled color. Sum and Substance being one of the commonly affected.

The mode of transmission is about the same: sucking / chewing insects and use of contaminated tools on a healthy plants. Here is a good article with more informational links at the bottom. http://www.inthecountrygardenandgifts.com/articles/hosta_virus_x.php

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but just think how you can take all of your healthiest plants and start fresh at your new home. :)

Winnipeg, MB(Zone 2b)

See if this works for you Lady Trish.

http://davesgarden.com/forums/t/598435/

Another thing, put virused material in the garbage. If you compost it, it might end up back in the garden down the road.

Look forward to seeing your new gardens next year.
inanda

UTICA,, MI(Zone 5b)

OH MY! AARRGGHHHH!
Thank you for the hyperlinks. Iam so confused on what to do.
I use the same pair of clippers to trim all of my lillies,should I take them with me & dispose of them after they bloom. Or did I just infect everything.
And the sadly funny part I bought Xanadu paisley because it was pretty and put it right next to my 11 year old sum & subtance (my 1st hosta).
Scarier everything I buy I divide and give 1/2 to my mother who's garden covers 5 acres.
I think we are going to have to rent a dumpster, and do alot of inspecting.
Thank you for the head's up. Trish

Lincoln, NE(Zone 5b)

That's a fine "how do you do" isn't it? LOL

Willamette Valley, OR(Zone 8a)

I forgot all about the hosta virus problem; I have just 3 hostas in my yard. But I have read about it so maybe your hostas have the virus, Trish. Snails are a big problem for me and I wonder if they can spread virus as they move amongst the hostas? Anyone know?

UTICA,, MI(Zone 5b)

What really gets to me is that I payed alot of money to bring a virus into my yard. Next year I am going to have a few choice words with the women that I bought them from. I really hope that she was unaware of what she was doing. I hate to believe that it was intentional. Because her sick plants really did look cool. I do not have a problem with slugs or snails. I do not use sprays. I buy praying mantises and other critters. And pull my weeds no spray or powders.

Winnipeg, MB(Zone 2b)

Disinfect your knive/clippers/scissors/whatever. Tke plastic jug of water & javex (chlorox) out into the garden. Every time you use the tool on a plant, put it back into your jug till you use it again on your next plant. That way you are not spreading it. Just an idea.

inanda

Lisbon, IA(Zone 5a)

Now, wait a minute, I don't think Xanadu Paisley is virused. You might want to wander over to the Hosta forum and ask some of the folks over their. True Xanadu Paisley looks virused, but I don't think it's ever tested positive and is genetically supposed to look like that. But check with the Hosta folks.... I don't have Xanadu Paisley, basically cause I wouldn't spend that kind of money for one. :) You might want to post pictures of all your hosta over there and ask for some advice, ok?

Here is a link to the Hosta Library web page, you can read all about HVX there. I don't think right at this time anyone is certain that bugs, slugs or insects in general spread the virus. http://www.hostalibrary.org/index.html

But I am also curious if she spread her lily virus to all her other lilies by using the same pruners and not cleaning in between. Seems like it would....

Diann

Lincoln, NE(Zone 5b)

I asked in the Hosta forum and at this time, virus X is believed to NOT be spread but bugs / slugs ~ just mechanical injury. (which I find surprising. ??)

Edited to add ~ yes Ticker, I had read the same about Xanadu Paisley not testing positive for virus. So that's a good thing!



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Lisbon, IA(Zone 5a)

Moby, Xanadu Paisley is an interesting hosta, but it makes me nervous to look at. :)

It's amazing what all will infect our little babies. Peony has its problems, daylily has its problems, hosta has its problems, and unfortunately so do lilies. Oh well, that won't stop me from loving and buying them. :)

Ladytrish, good luck on moving your lilies. I don't envy you. I moved a bunch of lilies this weekend and still have other to dig and move...

I hope things turn out good for you!

Diann

Willamette Valley, OR(Zone 8a)

This link lists several mottled hosta, including Xanadu Paisley, that look like they are virussed but are not. Also gives description of how to tell the difference.

http://www.inthecountrygardenandgifts.com/articles/hosta_virus_x.php

Saint Bonifacius, MN(Zone 4a)

LadyTrish, maybe this will make your task seem less daunting:

I was just at the southern MN Round Up at Bernie's house. He digs and stores 20,000 (twenty thousand) gladiolus bulbs each winter. Now what do you all think of that?

UTICA,, MI(Zone 5b)

Leftwood,
How does he package and in what area does he store them?

Saint Bonifacius, MN(Zone 4a)

Not exactly sure. They have a rather large root cellar. I was so in awe when he said 20,000, I think it shut me up! Not into glads anyway, although I do grow a winter hardy species here.

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