a couple of questions

I saw in a posting that some of the morning glories are perennials. Which ones are they, and can they stand zone 7b winters (of course, we have climate warmning here too?) Are any of the JMGs perennials? How long do the seeds last? Which JMGs stay open all day or reopen in the late afternoon? In addition, would anyone want to trade with me for four that I find irresistable: double throated ipomoea purpea, Fujishibori, Shiborazaki, and Fugi no Marasaki? I do have a collection of JMG and regular morning glory seeds and many other things to trade too. I would even like to buy them if that is permitted here.

Hi Gloria,

I am growing Ipomoea lindheimeri 'Lindheimer's Morning Glory' and it is perennial in Texas. I have to overwinter it in my garage in a semi-dormant state.

Joseph

gloriag - That's alot of questions...

I will answer what I perceive as appropriate for a single thread...

The Ipomoea species that are usually regarded as Japanese morning Glories are
Ipomoea nil
http://davesgarden.com/pf/b/Convolvulaceae/Ipomoea/nil/cultivar/0/
and Ipomoea purpurea
http://davesgarden.com/pf/b/Convolvulaceae/Ipomoea/purpurea/cultivar/0/
along with some inter-specific hybrids of these 2 Ipomoea species
http://davesgarden.com/pf/go/49146/index.html
http://davesgarden.com/pf/go/139202/index.html
http://davesgarden.com/pf/go/107750/index.html
http://davesgarden.com/pf/go/57867/index.html
http://davesgarden.com/pf/go/114631/index.html
http://davesgarden.com/pf/go/106236/index.html
additionally Ipomoea hederacea and Ipomoea hederacea interspecific hybrids are often considered as JMG's
http://davesgarden.com/pf/go/51637/index.html
http://davesgarden.com/pf/go/96226/index.html
http://davesgarden.com/pf/go/128748/index.html

The JMG's referenced above are all annuals...although they may self-reseed...

The flowers of Morning Glories do not reopen once closed.

There are some MG's that tend to stay open longer in the day and the JMG's that do so would include some of the yojiros,Cornell,Hatsu Arashi and others...

There are many perennial species of Morning Glories,but to list the details of every single one is a bit more than is practical to attempt to answer in this thread...

The Morning Glory species that would be root hardy outdoors in your zone would include
Calystegia species,but these are often very invasive,but not all species of Calystegia are invasive...the non-invasive species are generally rare/difficult to obtain...

Evolvulus nuttallianus
http://davesgarden.com/pf/go/76546/index.html
scroll down to the photo links I have added to the above entry

Ipomoea indica with protection...
http://davesgarden.com/pf/go/51653/index.html

Ipomoea leptophylla
http://davesgarden.com/pf/go/32008/index.html

Ipomoea pandurata
http://davesgarden.com/pf/go/53273/index.html

Ipomoea sagittata...with protection...
http://davesgarden.com/pf/go/70856/index.html

Ipomoea shumardiana
http://davesgarden.com/pf/go/109795/index.html
I previously had some photo links to the above species entered in the comment section,but these have been removed by the staff ala their policy on the shelf life of links..
I personally think that working links should be left in place,but I'm not the one who collects all the subscription fees> hires/pays for the staff,the exact number of staff/volunteers and decides on how their time is most efficiently utilized...what policies actually work best and are of the most lasting benefit to members etc...
I still question the ultimate overall value of the current specifics of this particular policy,but it is,nonetheless, the current standing decision of the Administration here...so,although I respect the decisions instituted,I don't always agree and therefore>still 'wince' when working links are removed...

I would be very interested to obtain some seeds of Ipomoea shumardiana,particularly from the Northernmost cold hardy zones for this species which would be in Kansas...any photos could help lead to people with plants and/or seeds...(!!!)...

There are a number of rare Morning Glories native to the US and elsewhere that are variously rare or almost extinct...sometimes individuals who are particularly active with the State Wildflower Organizations and local chapters can be very helpful in obtaining seeds and/or plants of a particular sought species...


There are many species of Morning Glories that are perennial,but most perennial MG's are outdoor hardy only in the warmest parts of the country,>although many of the perennial Morning Glories can be successfully overwintered indoors...

The seeds are best stored in a cool or cold relatively dry area and the seeds of many species can stay viable for decades if properly stored...although older seeds will often go into a deeper state of dormancy that does not respond well to 'quick sprouting' techniques>responding better to a gentle slower sprouting techniquie to coax the seeds into sprouting...

The general rule of thumb is that the larger seeds with thicker seedcoats will remain viable much longer than the smaller seeds with thin seedcoats,but there are always exceptions to these general rules...

The double throated Ipomoea purpurea that you mention is most likey the 'one of a kind' mutation that appeared in the garden of one of the members here and is not something that is available as a type...

The MG forum is appropriate for mentioning some initial information related to the trading of seeds>the exacting details of which are most appropriately conveyed in a more private correspondence...

The forums are not considered as an appropriate venue for members to sell seeds or other materials...although links to some vendors is allowed...

May I suggest that you contact members who may have the specific types that you are interested in via a private correspondence for the ultimate details of any trades or other transfer agreements...

May I also suggest that you refer to the listings in the PlantFiles for further information
Convolvulaceae
http://davesgarden.com/pf/tools/names.php?family=Convolvulaceae&z=genus

Ipomoea species
http://davesgarden.com/pf/tools/names.php?family=Convolvulaceae&genus=Ipomoea&z=species

I hope the information I have offered is of some help to your interest...

TTY,...

Ron

[loud applause and standing ovation for your response, Ron!!!]

Whew!! That's great, Ron! That is a demonstration of what makes this such a unique place! - Arlan

Ron,
Thank you so much for your exhaustive answers. It must have taken some time to type such a lengthy reply. I will be spending a great deal of time looking at the links and reading the information over several times. Now I feel more secure in raising the JMGs. Slowly, the ones I have planted are beginning to bloom, and each one is so thrilling. I love the deep blue and pales blues. Thanks again.

Gloria

gloriag - I'm so glad you appreciate the information offered and as for the answers I provided to the questions that you asked being >'exhaustive'/ lengthy...a shorter answer would most likely have left too many gaps,>and not(!) answered your questions accurately> therefore have contributed to perpetuating misinformation...
I believe that anything worth doing,is worth doing right...


People who have the same questions as posed above,will find and read this thread and hopefully find some worthwhile answers...


General disclaimer section - I add this part due to personal experience> that different people look for different 'things' and can 'interpret' postings differently...


There is an absolutely tremendous amount of misinformation on the web regarding Morning Glories and as many people have experienced, it is exceedingly frustrating(!) for both newbies and those with more experience to sort through the gigantic amount of conflicting misinformation and blatant nonsense regarding Morning Glories...

I like to look at it this way...You can find yourself wasting a 'lifetime' trying to sort through all of the misinformation(!) or you can spend some time trying to absorb information that is most likely actually correct.and already organized ..that is>if you are sufficiently interested to do so...
Which way do you think your time is better utilized(?)...>(asked quasi-rhetorically)

I try my best to provide information that is reliable to the best of my ability and if I err on the side of being 'exhaustive'/lengthy in that attempt,> to offset the overwhelming degree of spurious reports>then I accept full responsibility for believing that time well spent to be preferrable to time absolutely wasted...

Anyone who finds my postings worth reading is free to read them...and as may sometimes be the case>anyone who finds my postings to be 'too much' is certainly free to ignore or skip over them...everyone has their choice...

We all enjoy the Gardenwebs in different ways,we all attend(!) to our different types(!) of gardens in different ways and to each his own...

Happy Gardening(!)

Ron


P.S. - I'm a one finger typer,but I've been useing 2 fingers more often>so I'm geting quicker...
P.P.S. - Ron says>if it don't apply,then Let it Fly (!)...


This message was edited Aug 30, 2006 10:56 PM

Ron,
In no way did I mean to imply criticism or dissatifaction with your wonderful post! I just meant that I was so gratified that you took so much time and thought to answer my many questions. From reading the postings you have made, I consider you the expert in this forum, and I am honored that you were willing to share so much information! As you say,
not only will it be helpful to me, but it will also be helpful to many, many more people who see your name on a posting and know your information will be right on target. I apologize if my choice of words offended you. I meant "exhaustive" as in fully covering the topic. I have personal emails from MaVieRose which I will keep forever because her breadth of knowlege is so broad and helpful that I must keep referring back to it as I will do to your posting(s).

It is just great to have such knowlegeable people on the various forums to guide others. In the couple of years of my being a participant here, I have gained so much information, so many seeds and plants in trades, and have come to realize that there are thousands of people out there who love plants the way I do.
Respectfully, Gloria