I've shown this tree to several of you, and to dozens of tree-tourists from around the world. It's the "male" oak at the farm in Petersburg -- the smaller of the two 250-year-old bur oaks there. But I never before noticed this eerie formation at the base of the lowest limb on the NE side, and I still hadn't until I blew up a photo and saw the image there.
Any Druids or Wiccans out there? Do ya think it's the tree's spirit? Click on it and take a close look --I think it's pretty spooky.
Guy S.
Mr. Oak
That is pretty cool - must be a tortured soul in there somewhere.
Bless your heart. You should go there after dark and see what happens.
I had blown it up from the original shot already. Had I noticed it when I was out there I would have zoomed in on it, but I didn't see it until I got home and uploaded the pic. Here's the original photo -- the face is at the base of the large, dark limb near the center of the frame. This same tree, cored dated to 250 years, also has a medieval-looking hook and chain coming out of the trunk, and another strange protuberance that I can't describe here but that Will, Scott, John, or some others who have seen it could tell you about.
Guy S.
That neigbor to the south of me who has that 150-200 year old Bur Oak (the one their arborist said was almost 300 years old) has the head of a pick axe in his tree. I can't believe the metal that ends up in trees.
Your photo is spooky. I've never seen facial features like that in bark.
(the one their arborist said was almost 300 years old)
Hey, pick a number, any number, and make them prove you're wrong! That seems to be one of the basics of tree aging among lay people. Besides, "almost" is a relative term, so maybe he meant "somewhere between 30 and 300" . . . hmmmmm?
With the spooky oak (note to those who have seen it -- help me think of good and proper names for it and its even larger neighbor?), two friends and I took a core and extrapolated to 248, give or take 20-30 years. The other tree came out to 264, so they're obviously cohorts. They were sampled during the same informal Menard County tree-age survey that resulted in the restoration work on the Gudgel Oak and the aging of the Trail Oak that some of you have seen. We've measured enough rings on local tree stumps to be able to get a pretty good calibration on growth increment variability for oaks in this county, so I'm relatively confidant of the age.
Guy S.
I'll go with the 150-200 that you guessed. I didn't argue with them when they told me. I just said, uh huh and very handsome tree.
I would just treat that tree with respect. Not only is it very old, but I would want to be friends with whoever or whatever is living inside :-)
Guy, what did you do with Terryr????
Guy, what did you do with Terryr????
I'll never tell!
Equil and PartyGirl might be next though . . .
I would just treat that tree with respect. Not only is it very old, but I would want to be friends with whoever or whatever is living inside :-)
Right on, Gram!
In fact, I've been working to try to save that tree and its even larger neighbor. I took several friends over there last winter to clean out all the honeysuckle and hackberry sprouts under them. We take visitors there during our local tree tours, and I always ask them to praise the trees if the owner comes out to see us. I hope to persuade the owners to lock up the development rights on that couple of acres soon (the owners are in their mid-90s), hopefully with me as trustee. I'm not sure what it will cost me, if they agree at all, but I hope they will and I hope I can afford it.
Guy S.
I am thinking of cutting out a face, a woman's face, on one of my young oaks at the country house. Perhaps in 100 years it will spook someone. I can hear you hollering and screaming from here, Guy. Do you think that is how that tree got that face on it?
Guy, you need to think about that creepy face everytime you give the women a hard time!! It might the ghost of a fomer female Daver that you took down....coming back as not quite in the same form as when she was on Dave's.
Do you hear screaming at night ( or yapping)???? Well, now that I think about it-that would just be annoying-the yapping, not the screaming!
You could sell tickets on Ebay to see the tree-like when that person was for the face in the grill cheese sandwich-well I think she was auctioning off the sandwich lol who was it?? Jesus?? Elvis?
Tiger, any of you who want to see the tree are welcome -- just give me a call and we'll arrange a visit. But you're all on your own regarding the Elvis grilled cheese!
And as for those female Davers, most are quite safe with me. It's just those evil ones who want to kill my innocent little trees or light me on fire! (And, of course, those impudent little XX bubbleheads who don't show proper respect for the superior XY gender . . . let's see, there's one little blonde Cajun down in Montz Louisiana who shows absolutely no respect whatever, and one in Princeton, and one in Wadsworth, and one in . . . well, I guess there are a lot of them!) Hee-hee-hee!!!
Guy S.
Is that the tree that was in "Sleepy Hollow"? Just kidding, the "Sleepy Hollow" tree was probably fabricated, as it was real spooky and had a horse always coming out of it.
I ordered a t-shirt in 99' from that movie just because it had that eerie tree on it.
Guy, I'm not sure that I saw that tree when I was there. I saw the Gudgel Oak and the Marker Tree (White Oaks), that Bur Oak isn't ringing a bell though. I take photos of everything, I don't recall having photos of Bur Oaks on that trip. It could be that I'm just not recalling it. Did we see that tree and I just don't remember?
Speaking of photos, today I went to the local big cemetary and started taking photos of many trees there. The battery in my camera went dead there after I took about ten photos. I can usually squeeze out a few more photos when it is going dead, but this time my camera wouldn't even come on. I hope a spirit or spirits didn't put something on my camera.
I'll charge my camera back up and get back out there and take more photos soon.
I had the date feature turned off this time, I thought that might be best for better photos.
In any case, that is a creepy, eerie tree. Maybe a long time ago someone went unconscious or went in a coma too close to the tree, and the tree swallowed him/her up? Wouldn't that be something if a skeleton were found inside the tree someday? "Spooky Oak" or perhaps the last name of the elderly couple and "Oak" would probably just do good enuff to not only carry on their legacy, but also give some appeal to the scary old tree. That face alone would give it a reputation even without a name, perhaps it would get its own name by the townspeople. And then, the whole region would be fond of it. You know kind of like Lincoln's ghost coming down the road there at nite, being pulled by horses!
That area has some history there is no doubt. I think your right to want to preserve the 2 acres. If it were me, I think I'd add some lights to it and maybe some fencing to keep vandals, spooners and wackos and the like away.
That tree (and surroundings) could very well have a story to tell. That tree might be sensing it's impending doom (and the larger tree nearby) and is trying to get someone's attention.
I bet that tree would get a following quickly. Not to make light of the tree at all, I think people want to be scared and mystified by scary trees, and they want a reason to have some imagination. For instance, the "Sleepy Hollow" tree, the trees in "Lord of the Rings", and there's more I'm sure.
You often see where photos of faces have been taken. Some of them don't really resemble a face, somebody's imagination ran wild. But your above photo is clearly resembling a face (mummified even).
A Bur Oak tree is a perfect tree to give that scary, eerie, creepy, mysterious feeling to visitors, it is just a long-lived, gnarled and twisted up tree. It is a favorite of mine for those reasons, well, and other more real reasons too. I have a soft spot for Oaks in general, White Oaks maybe a little more. Here, I have that Q. Bebbiana (Taco Oak) growing nicely. I have many Bur Oak (Q. macrocarpa), Swamp White Oak (Q. bicolor), White Oak (Q. alba) and Chinkapin Oak (Q. muehlenbergii) seedlings, all from acorns. I have them in pots that are all on the big side, for seedlings so I haven't worried a lot about the taproots circling in the pots yet. Some of the larger 2 and 3 year seedlings are about ready for larger pots soon though.
I saw some interesting landscaping over East a ways, pretty close to the Kansas Speedway, the parking lot around an IHOP was ringed with what appeared to be Bur Oak trees. I've been meaning to get over there and get photos of it. An interesting landscaping plan. Unfortunately, the trees could never get to maturity (they'd get much too big), but interesting choice nonetheless.
Thanks for the offer, if I get over there maybe we can visit it.
Will
Well, nuts! I must not have had time to show it to you. It's in a pasture behind the old farmer's (Lyman Lyons) house in Petersburg, right in "town". I guess that means you gotta come back!!!
Hey, please add your great comments to the thread -- some great ideas there!
Guy S.
Geez...talk about me behind my back, why don't cha. I have a theory on that tree. It's the real Guy. The one who posts on here is merely a pod person. And anyway, everybody knows Guy is old enough to have been swallowed by the tree. I didn't see it either Guy, but I don't go back where I'm not welcome. Or at the very least, respected.
FYI, I got together with Equil yesterday, so there! Now all of you Y's are shaking in your boots......Can you imagine the talk us SUPERIOR X's had??
How was your visit? Got any juicy rumors about Equil for us?
By the way, you're always welcome -- c'mon back and look at the tree and tell me what you think.
Guy S.
I'll sure try to get to Petersburg, thanks for the offer.
Did that guy come to the Gudgel Oak preservation gathering May 05'? I remember the farmer man that drove a Dodge pickup and had pulled something behind on a trailer, maybe a Bobcat, nice guy, was that him?
Will
How was your visit? Got any juicy rumors about Equil for us?
It was really nice! We weed wrenched a few things, I girdled a tree, got eaten up by mosquitoes.....got lots of new plants. I did hear some juicy rumors. However, they aren't in regards to Equil. They'd be about some hooligan down in Southern IL. What was his name??? Hmmm.......I dunno. Some Guy anyway.
Hooligan is right! Sounds like Guy!
Guy, you have overstepped your bounds. For the 100th time I am telling you I AM NOT CAJUN.
Did that guy come to the Gudgel Oak preservation gathering May 05'?
No, this man is about 95 years old and still actively farms. You've never met him. I think you might have seen the retired sheriff who made the Gudgel Oak wood pieces for us to give to the donors -- he's only in his late 80s! If you come back I'll introduce you to the tree's owner if he'll come out of his house. Usually he just looks out the window to make sure the trespasser is me and then just settles back down in his chair.
They'd be about some hooligan down in Southern IL
Well, good, that lets me out -- I'm in central Illinois. Only some geographically challenged ditzy blonde XX-puppy who needs a talking GPS to navigate herself from Princeton to here could possibly confuse that with southern illinois!
I AM NOT CAJUN
Gotcha! I'm batting 1000 today! You girls are SOOOOO easy!
Hee-hee-hee!!!
G-nite everybody -- sweet dreams!
Guy S.
Well, good, that lets me out -- I'm in central Illinois. Only some geographically challenged ditzy blonde XX-puppy who needs a talking GPS to navigate herself from Princeton to here could possibly confuse that with southern illinois!
Anything halfway down the state is Southern to me. There's a difference between needing and wanting. Guess you haven't figured that one out yet, huh?
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