Do you have a photo of the Merrillii variegated form? I didn't know that existed....would love to see it.
Also...Red Buttons is H. publicalyx cv. Red Buttons. Also, I would love to see a photo of your H. membraifolia (membranifolia?). That's a new one on me....but what do I know?
What a super time you must have had!!!
Carol
Heading to Bob's on saturday
LOL Nightbloomer :) too funny. I did hear about Little so that makes some sense..though as you said...I can see how it gets confusing.
I assumed CV meant cultivated variety but was not 100% certain, so I thought I would ask :)
The difference between a mutant and a species is too cool :) I will need to test my science geek husband with that one!
Aloha :) I took some photos yesterday and taking more today :) So if I dont' have a photo..>I will :)....He told me that the merrilli variegated was new. He also said I was the first to buy one from him :)
It may be membranifolia...he is not the best speller LOL and I will hopefully be posting photos of everyone tonight after work. I will download the photos I have now and then see who is missing :)..The membranfolia is just a cutting though :)
Lorry how many nodes are the cuttings? I printed out his list on the web and now counting the days to our trip !!! LOL Love those large leaf hoya's..Three years ago I had found out he was down there but when we went to Miami he wasn't open yet.You have started out your collection with sum really nice hoya's and you are so close to him your collection will grow fast!!! Might need a second job LOL
Dianne
The amount of nodes range..Some are larger then others and when you visit..he just cuts them out :) so as I said, they range greatly :) but he was quite generous with the cuttings.
LOL..I already have 2 jobs..not sure I could do a third :) I am an instructor with mentally challenges adults :) and my second job..we are trying to open a nursery for exotic plants within the next 5 yrs :) So I am collecting plants and selling some on ebay :) We are also hoping to buy 4 1/2 acres from a friend of mine when she retires (I work with her) and that will be when we start. :)
Cool Beans, Chris!!! I hope that you get as much literature as you can to ID your hoyas...and verify what they are after they have bloomed so that you know you are offering as close to correctly labeled plants as you can. It doesn't help when the 'powers' suddenly decide a bunch need to be renamed...but knowing as much about them as you can is a good start. Sounds like you are well on your way!!!
Carol
LOL..well we are a long way off from that! I don't currently sell hoyas :) on ebay it is gesnersiads...but I agree about correct labeling when at all possible
We are getting there but still need the land and to build ;) I am just slowly growing collections of plants :)
PS. David Liddle's assencion numbers (his catalogue listings) all begin with IML and they go from IML 0001 to what must be IML 1700+. Everytime he collects, receives, buys, is gifted a hoya, it is given an IML #. NOW...even tho the plant may be re-identified the IML number remains the same!!!! This way it is possible to track the history of the speciies. When he collects, he will collect a plant, assign it a number. Then walking along, maybe 25' away, he may find another plant looking similar. A GPS reading is taken and a new IML# is given. This is why keeping the ID numbers on the hoyas we collect is important. If you read "Hoya macrophylla is really XYZ" is not as impactual nor as concise as saying "Hoya macrophylla IML ### is really XYZ" There can be NO dispute as to the actual plant with that number, whereas the name could cover dozens of what others have as H. macrophylla.
So, when we see H. sp. HSI037 (a hoya species labeled HSI - 037) it is PRECISE. IPPS = Paul Shirley. DG = David Cumins. DS = David Silverma etc.. These are very important 'tags' to keep on your hoya names as THEY do not change whereas the hoya name may change. With some hoyas you can trace their path- kinda fun. To ignore these numbers is to reject reality. I know I must update my list and get the assension numbers up to day.
Does t his make sense.
If you have ever ordered or traded hoyas you thought were new and found you already had them because the names were changed....you would know their true identity by their assension numbers. IML ### will never change. And it is that number that will be the deciding factor when there is are 4 H. affinis with 4 different numbers. When one of them is ID'd...the Number will be the same...and it will not pertain to the other affinis hoyas.
I am confused...anyone else?
It is important, t herefore, to keep a record of where your hoyas come from. Say...one day you read that Hoya XXX from XYZ is the most rare hoya ever found and is worth a lot of money...or something like that...if you have the hist ory of that plant, you can ID it. If it is determined that Hoya XXX from XYZ who got it from PDQ who received it from PQR is really something else...there will be no question in your mind....and you can never be accused of mislabeling.
It may sound not necessary. It may seem like a lot of work. It may seem OCP. Actually, it is simply responsible. I can't tell you how many times I have asked David Liddle to help me ID a hoya and his first questions are: where did it come from? Where was it collected? Where did they get it? It is all a matter of pedigree.
Bored to death yet?
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LOL..not bored but wondering where you get plants that come with these numbers.
I dont't hink any I have so far have any numbers attributed to them but one
Well I think it makes sence.......But several years ago I made a trade and when I received my cuttings the names weren't clear,might a fact I couldn't make heads or tails out of them...The grower was using those metal tags and I still couldn't read them...So I left those tags on and put another tag with her name and a ? mark,Well they grew and bloomed out and every last one of them bloomed out the same,Same yellow bloom,I then knew all three of them were the same plant..Just the growing habits were different...But what they were was still a mistery....So I understand why numbers and names are important and it didn't keep me from trading them just the cuttings were leaving here with NOID on there tags..I collect them for there beauty....As long as theres hoya's around there will be confussion,But I'm up for it!!
Dianne