Did you guys see this?
http://www.selectivegardener.com/Catalog.php?page=3&category=6
I may just need to get me one of these!
#AV4ST - 4 IN African Violet - Saintpaulia Tongwensis
This African Violet is the original variety as found in the Usambara Mountain range in Africa. It is closely related to the Saintpaulia ionantha and has a lighter color blue in its flowers.
The original AV
I did see it Lory. I'm still thinking about it. I recently purchased Blue Boy at Violet Gallery. One of the original 10. He is just getting ready to bloom.
Hehehe I have blue boy tooooooooo!!!! :) It is so pretty but mine has not bloomed yet.
You shoudl check out davesviolets..>he has a lot of the old timers :) that is where I got mine :)
and I ordered this one right after I posted it..I gotta have it!
Lorry it's one of the Species. And why did you havr to show me this.
Blue Boy is one of the Original African violets
Tongwensis not one of the orginal 10 but a species !
S. tongwensis (S 6) 1947 (B. Burtt) Single pale blue, may show dark pinwheel marking when grown cool; 4-6 per peduncle, very floriferous. Dark green, pointed, narrow, very thick, hairy, slightly serrated/some red back. May appear variegated with mottled pattern over main veins. Usually upright single crown, rarely suckers. Standard. Saintpaulia species
I take that back..I have blue girl..not blue boy :(
I know it isn't one of the original 10 Allison :) heheh she was just mentioning the original 10 :)
and I thought it was cool :) So I ordered it...Nice to have something close to an original :)
Yes ! There are like 30 Species in First Class ! I use to have a lot of them ! I might buy this one. It's important to keep the Species alive too !
Then there are the Original Ten !
Blue Boy Sported to Blue Girl which made the first Girl !
I have Blue Boy hoping it sports me a girl. lol
fixed some spelling lol
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Oh so i have the sport of blue boy and the first girl :) that is cool :)
I can send you some blue girl leaves if you want Allison
Okay guys, what's the original 10? The first 10 cultivars or what??
Ready to be educated :)
Selective Gardner is soo expensive!
BLUE BOY is not a species but is one of the "Ten Originals" developed by Armacost and Royston Nursery of Los Angeles, CA. They obtained African violet seed from Germany and England during 1927 and worked with the new plants for eight years before releasing ten different plants for sale.
The top" Ten Originals " developed by Armacost and Royston Nursery of Ca. are 1. Admiral,2. Amethyst, 3.Blue Boy, 4.Commodore, 5. Mermaid 6. Neptune, 7. Number 32,8. Norseman, 9. Sailor Boy, and 10. Viking.
They grown by African violet seed from Germany and England during 1927 and worked with the new plants for eight years before releasing ten different plants for sale
Speicies the S. means Saintpaulia which is the Genus and the Latin name (always a small letter) which identifies a specific species group.
You can fine the First ten AV's in First Class and also all the Species in First Class too. Some with really cool pictures !
Oh I have admiral :)
great something else I need to collect :) the original 10..that would be cool
I thought I had Neptune cant find it . Maybe I gave it to someone. lol I have Blue Boy !
Thanks for the info, Allison. Lorry, wouldn't it be cool to have the full set??!! Makes you think.....~lol~
Yes I'd enjoy a full set of ten and full set of Species. Miss no room here lol
I can't wait to see the blooms on Blue Boy. The plant I have has a very distinctive leaf as well. It is pointed at the tip and the center vein is lighter green. It is also very soft to the touch. I will be repotting this morning and setting down any lost leaves if anyone is interested.
These are so cool.I love the vintage plants and think its important to keep them going.
There was a thread going about the vintage plants(having a vintage bank or something like that) but for the life of me I cant find it.
Nana if you have a broken leaf from Blue Boy.Please keep me in mind:)
I sure will Jan. Do you want me to send the leaf or would you like a plantlet is I can grow some?
Thanks Nanna.. Could you put a leaf down for me please.This newbie doesn't have the greatest luck.
I have a leaf pot of "The King" that Allison sent to me,just waiting on ears if you would like one!
Allison sentme "The King" as well and it is doing very well. I am just about out of room right now. Let this just be my gift to you.
Jan I will have to send you and Lorry's prize boxes to you next week.
I can send you Blue Boy leaves ! I think I might even have King plant, Black Ace leaves and more goodies for you :)) Oh I have vintage Tommie Lou too !
Oh about Selective gardner being too exspencive... You get what you pay for and Annabelle to get a plant full of deep blue belles, Bell flowers you don;t see often on AV's well worth the cost of $12.00 ! And their shipping cost are low. Like I think it was snow said she got two shipped for $7.95 where are you going to get two large 4 inch plantsn named in full bloom for only $ 7.95 shipping ??
Plus their miniature, and large, 6 inch all their plants come blooming ! Make terrific gifts ! At the Holidays I'd like to get a couple more red blooming Av's from them. I love the red and white blooming plants for the Holiday season !
I feel for what you get from them you get your money's worth ! I've only ordered once, and got my gift from Eunice from them but have seen other people plants from them ! edit for spelling and to say they sell some nice Begonias, foliage plants, Miniature poinsettias , growing suplies leaves and more !
Hek I have spent $5.75-$10.00 plus for plants from other vendors to get the smallest sometimes dead plants and always shipping to high $$ you get what you pay for most of the time lol
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You see, there are lots of choices.
I agree with Allison :) They have fabulous plants :) and ebay can be a crap shoot :)
I bought myself another annabelle and I ordered this one also :)
I would be happy to share leaves of her with you Allison :) when she comes in :)
Oh WOW super Lorry Thanks so much ! Most plants you buy from Ebay not all Most and most from Vendors are too small to think about sharing a leaf or even having a safe leaf to put down for insurance.
Lorry did you get your new Annabelle and Saintpaulia Tongwensis yet ! Pictures please :))
My new Annabelle from Eunice has a couple suckers ! And a couple of my Annabelle leaves down have babies ! So I will have some nice Annabe;;es to share by Fall . I was real excited to find them.
I got them in today as a matter of fact..the box only came a couple of minutes ago :) and they are lovely :)
Oh WOW I'm so excited for you ! Can't wait to see them.
I hope you get your contest box from me tomorrow !
Wonders of History our threads are full of them :)) Take a walk do a search have fun :))
I don't have any of the original 10 but am growing the species saintpaulia 'Rupicola' very endangered in the wild.
http://www.cincyzoo.org/Conservation/GlobalConservation/AfricanViolets/africanviolets.html
Photo of my young plant recently planted in a 4" pot. The leaves feel so good on Rupicola....sorry no bloom now.
Here is an internet photo (credit?) of species Rupicola in bloom.
Very Interesting SR. where did you get your Rupicola?
That's a nice plant Snow ! They are fun to grow and good to share and keep the Species and vintage from getting lost !
S. rupicola (S 10) 1964 (B. Burtt) Single light-medium blue, three or more per peduncle. Light-medium green, heart-shaped, soft, smooth, glossy, velvety/light back. Leaves sometimes thick. Multi-crowned standard or bushy trailer. Saintpaulia species
Have you had it long ! nice plant !
I got a couple leaves of s.Rupicola from a friend. I find this species to be as easy or easier to grow than any other violet and can grow into a nice full large trailer. So true, if or when the species are lost in the wild, the only ones we will have are those preserved by collectors. If anyone is interested, I have leaves I can start for new plantlets in spring. Also, will have just leaves available anytime during safe shipping season.
Snow,Beautiful Plant!! Would you please put me down for leaves or a plantlet in the spring? I would love to try one of these. Hopefully I can find something to tempt you with : )
Nancy
Sure, cedarnest! I'll be happy to. Remind me...I'll start 4 or 5 spare leaves now since I just groomed my plant.
Thanks Snow.You are a Dear : )
SR, I would like a plantlet this spring. Thank you.
Wonderful Wonderful !!! Keepem sharing :)) OK who's growing one of the first double pinks from Lyon's :)) After all those blue shades, violets... then there came pink ! But wow when the double pink came out in 1953 people went nuts leaves sold for $10.00 each ! No Ebay needed and that was a lot of money in thos days :)) I was not even born hehe but I'd love to have one of the plants ! Gosh African violets are amazing !
I posted this other place but had to do it again.
All the first AV's were blue shades Blue Boy being the first.
Blue Boy (41) 1948 (Armacost & Royston) Single dark violet-blue. Ovate, pointed. Standard
Edit to say First Pink Girl :)) Pink Girl (AVS48) (R. Baxter) Single pink. Ovate girl foliage. Standard
First Girl, Blue Girl (AVS48) (C. Ulery) Single blue-violet. Round girl foliage. Standard
In the fifty's Lyon's came out with the first double pink it brought lots of money ! I forget which double pink it was anyone know ?? :)) There were three in one year.
If my memory does not fail me the first double pink came out from Lyon's in 1953 three plants were named by Lyon. I think it was Double pink Cheer but the name might be wrong but I do recall the first Doube pink was from Lyon !
Double Pink Cheer (186) 10/29/1954 (L. Lyon) Double pink. Quilted. Large
Double Pink Cloud (187) 10/29/1954 (L. Lyon) Double dark pink. Quilted. Large
and
Double Pink Puff (188) 10/29/1954 (L. Lyon) Double pink. Quilted. Large