ahhhh...well i'm sitting here (kinda half sitting...because it hurts to sit, but worse to stand i think, no maybe laying is worse...ahhhhh), taking a break after digging and picking and planting and mulching and planting and digging and picking and mulching and in between seeding and potting. my poor body what's left of it is needing a break today! i put in 4 hours today and that is enough so it's DG's time for me! truth tell it...i'm just getting way tooooooo old for this!
i was wondering as i'm looking at my list of plantings this year what else everyone is putting in???? would LOVE to hear what others are into seeing and enjoying on their properties!
here's some of our list of some of the trees and bushes for our 2006 garden:
Aesculus hippocastanus 'Variegata'
Aesculus parviflora
Cercidiphyllum japonicum 'Pendulum'
Cotinus coggygria 'Golden Spirit'
Crataegus mollia
Liquidambar styraciflua 'Silver King'
Salix purpurea 'Pendula'
Acer platanoides 'Drummondii'
Fagus sylvatica 'Purpur-Tricolor'
Robinia pseudoacacia "Frisia'
Tilia americana
Fagus sylvatica 'Purple Fountain'
Magnolia macrophylla
Acer griseum
Pseudotsuga menziessii 'Aureovariegata'
Amelanchier xgrandiflora "Autumn Brilliance'
Cornus Alternifolia Gold Bullion 'Bachone'
Cercis candadensis 'Heart of Gold'
Lonicera fragrantissima
Cornus sericea
Cornus 'Mid WinterFire'
OMG there is more! I'M SO ASHAMED!!!!!!!!!
ps sorry about the spelling and typos... i may be able to dig a hole but i sure can't type!
editing is to correct at least SOME of the typo's!! can't edit myself either so i'm sure there are plenty more.
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This message was edited Apr 18, 2006 12:46 PM
What Trees are you Planting this Season???
ahhhh...well i'm sitting here (kinda half sitting...because it hurts to sit, but worse to stand i think, no maybe laying is worse...ahhhhh), taking a break after digging and picking and planting and mulching and planting and digging and picking and mulching and in between seeding and potting. my poor body what's left of it is needing a break today! i put in 4 hours today and that is enough so it's DG's time for me! truth tell it...i'm just getting way tooooooo old for this!
I think many of us here could have written that, but perhaps not as well!
ps sorry about the spelling and typos...typing is not me!
That too!!!
Guy S.
I'm wishing that we were more flush this year, there's a lot on your list I would love to add to my gardens. Time to break out the cold beverages and reflect on what you've accomplished today, ahhh, doesn't that feel better?? ;-)
Catalpa speciosa
Ostrya virginiana
Sambucus
Corylus americana
Ilex verticillata
Hamamelis virginiana
Viburnum dentatum
Viburnum cassinoides
Lonicera prolifera
Carpinus caroliniana
Calycanthus (Kevin, what kind?)
I still have Cornus racemosa, Lindera benzoin, Aesculus parviflora and 1 more V. dentatum. I'm waiting to see if my Taxodium distichum comes back after being eaten by something. Same thing that bit off half of the Aesculus parviflora :(
It's too wet here to get back to planting, so we've been inside doing a skim coat on the spare room walls and ceilings. One down, probably 2-3 more to go. I'd rather plant. Everyone says there's a trick to doing the skim coat, but nobody says what the trick is. I'm thinking it's to hire it done.
This years plantings so far.
Aesculus Pavia
Chamaecyparis Pisifera 'Gold Mop'
Chionanthus Virginicus
Callicarpa Dichotoma
Acer Conspicuum 'Phoenix'
Chamaecyparis Pisifera 'Filifera Aurea'
Juniperus Horizontalis 'Limeglow'
Chamaecyparis Pisifera 'Curly Tops'
Tsuga Canadensis 'Jeddeloh'
Plan to add a few more before spring is out. Need to make up my mind what I want.
Wow! terry and senna.........i would LOVE to see!! it's taken me days to get back to being able to sit and read and answer since of course i haven't let the pain stop me!
prairiegirl......it was more of a "hot" coffee to keep the eye lids open..:)
guy....i think it becomes rather sad when one can describe pain so well!!!! but we all know NO pain...to NO garden!
I've planted:
Xanthoceras sorbifolium
Sophora microphylla
Orixa japonica
Davidia involucrata
Weigela florida (Rubra Nana or somethin' small and red)
Myrtus communis variegata
Clerodendrum bungei
Schinus molle (I believe aurea or something from a higher altitude source)
Ampelopsis brevipedunculata 'Elegans'
Hebe x 'Purple Princess' (ID not confirmed)
Griselinia littoralis
Blechnum gibbum
Lonicera pileata variegata
Lonicera nitida 'Red-tip'
etc...not including the stuff at the nursery
Most of this stuff was in pots for the past few years so was long overdue for a planting.
Planting, I've done the following:
Juglans nigra "Daniels", "Emma Kay", "Sauber #1"
Juglans ailantifolia var. cordiformis "Jewel Box", "Late Rhodes", "Roger Miller's Big Nut"
Juglans cinerea "Arthur"
Carya illinoensis "Snag", "Hausmann"
Carya ovata "Sinking Fork"
Grafting, my list would be too long for me to detail right now.
lucky.......grafting...how cool is that. i really want to learn. i have some some things i'm going to try and most likely fail at. but i guess that's how we all learn and...
growin...nice to see someone with more to do than me!!!
Wow. That all of you can even write those lists is amazing to me.
Learning.
(I understand the descriptive feeling first posted, tobee43, but at that point not even my fingers would go. And yes, no pain verses no playing in the dirt = have pain; not sure if what I do is yet qualified as gardening, but I've been at it a long time.)
I would love to see pics of what must be amazing gardens you over-acheivers have! ;-)
[ I can't decide on what evergreen/other shrubs to plant in front of my house, and you guys have lists a mile long of what you planted, needs planting, etc.]
We've been in this house for a year next month.....so I took a bunch of invasive and just "not my style" type plants out. Everything is pretty little and some of the things I got last summer are just plain sticks. So mine anyway, isn't all that amazing....yet. It just needs to grow up some. I'll post pictures probably later this summer when things fill out some and I've got some mulch down and maybe do some edging and.......:o)
4paws..we all started at the beginning.......and just to let you know...there is NO ending!
prairiegirl....so what's your thoughts on which evergreen or scrub??? tell me, tell me....front of the house...by the window? in the front yard? do you have to look at all year long? i LOVE some of the variegated conifers!
terryr...everything i have is "little" we have lived here 30 years when we thought we were completely done...but then it happened. the ten gas co came through and took part of the gardens and then a nice new neighbor came in and chopped every tree and schrub from 100 feet the length of our property to over 20 feet in. (i couldn't sleep for a year!) soooooooooo here we are after 30 years starting all over again! and that's why my list is so long...
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Well discribed,tobee43,I know all too well.My country philosophy,and self edu.has taught me that in order to know anything,one must experience it,otherwise you only know of it. Thought void!!! I was going to touch on grafting.I have read about it ,talked about it,but never tried it,for,I guess fear of failing .Failing what?failing who?I've noticed that a turtle never gets any where untill he sticks his neck out.I'm going to try!!!!!Mike
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Oh Tobee, I am going to be awake thinking about that loss! And to have to watch it happen! My stomach gets knots thinking about it! My sympathies!
In the last year I've been thinking ahead to the possibility of neighbors building and cutting down all the trees and vegetation someday, which would destroy our privacy (and the feeling of being in the woods, which we are). We are just commencing our second year in this house.
Thus, I've been researching natives and have started the main structure of a living privacy & security screen along parts of the perimeter (175' x 750') backed by a 6' high field fence around it all (dog secure, bear and bad-two-leggeds deterrent, and dust catcher from neighbor's truck driving down adjacent driveway). Plus, I wanted to plant varieties that would help slow down a fire, should one come this way. It took much time and planning to figure out what to plant, then to find the plants, and then determine how much I could realistically afford (financially and in on-going time for care) this year. I have a 5 year planting-plan, and I'm looking forward to getting to the first stage in May.
I'm starting with coffeeberry, california bay laurel, which I hope to maintain as a shrub for at least my time here, and california native roses, The last two plants I've got growing freely around the property, so I'll just move them. Next year I'll add tall ceanothus and manzanita. If everybody's happy, I'll repeat the first two years planting all at once in years 3 and 4. Year five, fill gaps with transplants from around property.
So, what do you think? When suffering from such aches and pains as first so perfectly described above, is the cure the next day (when it can maybe feel worse) actually the "hair of the dog" remedy? Go out and do more?
Go Mike!
I have to remember that one - I want to try grafting as well. This year I finally tried my hand at hypertufa (thanks to encouragement from DG folks!).
Good for you!
ahhhh...well i'm sitting here (kinda half sitting...because it hurts to sit, but worse to stand i think, no maybe laying is worse...ahhhhh)
What have I dug holes for and planted or potted up in between ripping over 200 Buckthorn out with my weed wrench???
Too many that it made the thread too long so for the ease of readership, I deleted the list when I edited this post. It was long.
I also have over 50 Carnivorous Plants on the way and they'll all need to either go in the ground or get potted up. And... I winter sowed over 200 trays and many will germinate and need to get sent out to friends or potted up individually or stuck in the ground somewhere. Are we having fun yet?
As if I didn't have enough plants to get in the ground I went and participated in a DG Co-op and should be receiving these plants mid May-
Northwest Bulb
4 Heuchera 'Silver Scrolls'
15 Hosta 'Night Before Christmas'
15 Hosta 'Whirlwind'
and this order will be delivered this fall-
And to think that if we have another year like any of the last 3, I will lose over 50% of the above and 25% of what remains will become deer and rabbit chow.
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Whew! My eyes started glazing over 2/3s of the way down, I can see I've got a long way to go to get past amateur status. I hope you have an army of help from all those kids Lauren! Unless you're anal like me, insisting that no one cares as much as you about doing it right.
Nope, I pretty much do it one plant at a time all by myself. I must admit I'd probably get more done if I didn't sit on my duff out there pulling buckthorn seedlings by hand and then I must pop in here to get on the computer to see what's going on at least 10x a day and I do eat. I did get the oldest to dig a few holes for me two weekends ago. He wanted spending money for something or other. The other ones are physically too darn small to be digging anything other than what's in a sandbox and el Carlito usually has to run with the kids for Scouting activities and he cooks on weekends starting about right now up through fall. One day at a time, one hole at a time, and one plant in a hole at a time. And if you don't get them all in the ground, heel them in for next spring.
tobee - my house is under the "curb appeal" thread 'I need a makeover!', I'm pretty open to suggestions. But I will tell you that I've decided to try a perennial planting surrounding the lamp-post, consisting of Russian sage, black-eyed susans and purple salvia. This is mainly because I have most of the plants (except rudbeckia) and they will complement the asters. I plan to repeat Hameln fountain grass and Little Henry sweetspire to the right of the steps, I think this will look more balanced. I want to use feather reed grass and an evergreen shrub to create a hedge under the front window. I will use the sedums Vera Jameson and Purple Emperor to edge the beds, particularly in front of the fountain grasses. Maybe some Autum Joy surrounding the far edge, with an arborvitae softening the corner of the house? I really like the look of dwarf arctic willow with the feather reed grass, my husband thinks it's not a good idea close so to the house. We also want something evergreen for winter interest.
So, take a look and let me know your thoughts! thanks.
LOL Equil - Don't give up! I do think you may want to consider NOT ordering any more plants, until these are tucked in. Ok, you can say it. Kill-joy, LOL.
equilibrium.....and a partridge in a pear tree?????? OMG! your are worse than me......and as i'm looking at your list i look back on mine and realized that......i forgot that those are just the trees and some of the bushes. we have well over 1000 annuals and perennials to go in yet. and I'M OLD! LOL!! and i'm STILL not including the trees and bushes that are not arriving until may. so thanks for reminding me!
ok.....and YES, perhaps i bit off just a little more than i could chew...or dig, pick, mulch and garden this year...... but it will be done, because i am driven to get this place back to what it was soon as possible. and, although i will NEVER probably live to see the entire beauty, i intend to enjoy every year until then. (hope that's a long time...but i'm not thinking it's going to be another full 30 years).
mike...i love your attitude! and what the heck...me too, i'm going give it a try! i for one have failed far more than succeeded. yet some of those "failures" turned out to be better than what i had originally planned. so one never knows..:)
4 paws...ahhhhhh you had me thinking of the good old days. i was born and raised in the bay area and when i got to the east it was true horticulture shock for me. your plan sounds excellent and well laid out. it's good to go in stages like your doing to assure the cultivars your choosing work well for you. the great thing you have going is the quick growth rate in your zone. i'm in zone envy!
prairiegirl....girlfriend you sound like you have it together pretty darn well to me! remember the carex grass in my boxes. russian sage is one of my personal favs. black-eyed susans...i got some of the cute tiny cultivars this year to add some spark about the place. i never saw anyone go wrong with salvia! and all the rest sounds so wonderful! i'm certain it will work.
:-)
When I'm digging, howing, pulling, hauling, and finally planting, I think about all the folks I've met on DG who are doing the same. Comraderie.
I am not worse than you ;) Exclude whatever is generated from winter sowing and what needs to be potted up for me. I just did a quick count up there and I'm at under 400. Even with a few orders that I forgot to add up there, about 100 annuals, and the 300 hundred bulbs I'll put in the ground this fall I am way under your 1000.
Comraderie! 4paws hit it on the head! It's so comforting to know there are those out there (tobee43) who are going for it! Misery loves company! I say Bengay for all of us!
I have found that epsom salts is sooo nice in a hot bath, it makes me feel lighter-weight too!
I picked up these great hot/cold "thingies" that you can tie to yourself wherever it hurts. (Therapad or something - from Amazon). Mine are looking kind of grungy, since usually it's when I'm playing in the dirt something hurts and I want to use it, but then I don't have to stop and sit on ice!
I was soooo sad when my heating pad under the sheet gave up the ghost last week. My lower back sure liked that!
BTW, equilibrium, your hosta purchase in the coop by Pixydish influenced my firsts ever hosta purchase. Thank goodness I'm not trying to keep up with you!
Epsom salts make your mind leave your body at times while you float in water. I like epsom salts. I don't think I've bought any in a long time. Glad you mentioned those PGZ5.
Speaking of bad influences tobee43 when you were talking about all of your annuals... You made me feel guilt so I went out this afternoon and bought some annuals. I bought Impatiens, a few flats of Pansies (I have a new fondness for these because of somebody I recently met and when I look at them I think of her smiling and laughing at me), Petunias, Bacopa, Tweedia (gotta look that one up before I plant it), and then I ran into 5 Tall Bearded 'Immortal' Iris that I needed to fill in a few gaping holes along my sidewalk, some Northern Sea Oats, a few more Pulmonaria, more Salvia, and few other perennials that are escaping my brain dead mind. Oops, more Baptisia australis. I need more of those because two more rose bushes just bit the dust with a little help from me. I'm not all that great with annuals. I know the basics but I'm going to have to figure out how to water what I have.
Say 4paws, I actually ordered quite a bit more from that Co-op but I lost them all when we didn't hit minimums. Gosh darnitall! Now I need to go out and find some White Lupine as well as a few others. Hind sight is 20/20. I should have gone back and upped my quantities. Pixie is coming out my way and staying with me in May so I could have just had her haul any excess.
editing to correct names. I mixed up tobee43 with 4paws
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see now you KNOW you really have a problem when you look at the words " Epsom salts" and the only thing i think of soaking in it is my stuttgart canna and what other plants i water with it! oh my!
equilibrium...darlink....i think not...you are just as crazy and no denying it! but i think i'm needing to explain myself just a bit.
besides trying to get our property back into pre destruction stage, i do integrated tropical design gardening for a landscaper and a florist , i also design flower beds and container gardens for them. the only reason i have so many annuals to put in is because many times they use my house as an example. i have growers grow them and usually do not purchase at local nurseries because of two reasons: i need certain colors for the yearly design and, secondly, it would be way to costly for me. so i contact growers by jan so they have time to assure they can grow what i need. it's MUCH less costly that buying locally, even with the shipping. i'm using someone new this year...so i'm a bit scared but i have heard good this about them. impatients is the only flower i purchase here because someone grows them locally. and, because i need over 50 flats of them he also grows for me what colors i'm looking for. because you mentioned the "care" of the annuals i'm going to tell you something that's going to curl your toes and is most likely against anything you know.
we live in an area that we can enjoy our annuals for approx 12 weeks. therefore to get the best from them you need to use an extremely rich and moist potting soil...and add fertilizer almost weekly. you unfortunately have to push them to max. being that we are in close zoning conditions i'm going to show you a "patio" garden in mid June, resulting from extreme pushing of the plants. i have shown this pic before on other threads (this is a "textured" garden not so much flowers, but you can get the idea), but i want you to see what naughty pushing does. people go crazy with ph etc. proof is in the pudding...or flowering. we did an experiment where we put a hosta in thick hard clay soil ph off the charts in one way or another then we put one in rich soil perfect ph semi shady conditions...a dream come true for any hosta. the difference was we feed only the one in clay and adverse conditions and the other we left alone the entire season which was supposed to have been in optimum planting conditions...well guess which one grew the best!
4paws...the comradery is so wonderful! a place for all the crazies to hang out!
:-)
I was wondering about the annuals you mentioned, Equilibrium. I'm glad someone else makes those mistakes, too!
I have a few annual seeds started - luffa, Red Sun sunflower, and herbs. The seeds I'm most excited and surprised over are hollyhocks from seed I collected at the Rotary Gardens in Janesville, WI in 2001 and some others from a hollyhock I grew in Janesville in 2002. I didn't think they'd still be viable. I don't usually do seeds, because I don't have the room, but I'm hoping to build a little greenhouse using the Stromberg's starplate system that I saw on a thread somewhere, in which case, there'd be no stopping me.
Besides the meager numbers of natives I mentioned above, I'm working on my blueberry patch - started last year, expanded this. Small, but on a hillside, so I found new muscles to be sore from playing goat. Then there are, what I consider, a lot of perennials (7 different echinaceas, Baby's Breath (can't spell the g word),Mayfield Giant coreopsis, assorted salvias, edible and ornamental, Gaura, 2 types of daylilies, two types of hosta, Geranium "Rozann", Maximillian Sunflower, a couple of grasses, and others that I can't remember, but I did do a lot of research and have it all written down, so I don't go off on a lot of tangents when I go to the nursery. Actually, because of all the research, I've found the nurseries closest to me don't carry what I want specifically, so almost all of my plants have been via DG referrals online. (Coop, ForestFarm, Bluestone). About 40-50 new perennials. Then I have to have the scent of petunias greet me in the morning, and marigolds to keep down bugs....
I hope I can keep them all happy and alive! They cost a fortune, and I didn't get many of each, thinking I'd be able to propagate to get more......!
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