The leaves on my Walmart Optimara Noid are getting a splotchy appearance. I don't top water so I wondered if it may be insect like a leaf miner or something. Any clues? The color is off in the picture. The splotches are actually a yellowish color.
Jan...
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I've seen this from fertilizer burn. you might want to check out our sticky links on leaf problems, i think it's in there.
It sorta looks like sunburn to me. Has it been too close to the lights?
I did move it up closer earlier this week. It's about 5 in below florescent lights.
Some AVs are more sesitive to light then others. I would think 5 inches should be fine but not sure. To me it looks like burn...either from light or from fertilizer as Laurie mentioned.
Did you purchase it recently?
I don't know a *whole* lot about AVs....but to me it looks like water was on the leaves....either cold water settled on the leaves (which wouldn't surprise me with some WM's!) or water was on the leaves and then the water/sunlight/light combination caused the leaf to burn on the spots where the water was....does that make sense (lol!)
And if you purchased recently, it was something that had already begun *before* you purchased it.
No it's not from water, or burn , or lights or fertilizer. Let me think about this I've seen it on links for problems with Av 's before. Also how long have you had it ? Just incase check under leaves and soil for any bugs. Make sure to keep new plants isolated a good 2-3 months. I'll be back after my chacking on this.
Well Leaves can become albino "Bleaching? Birthmarking
or haloing Birthmarking could be cold damage
Leaves can become
too albino after being
too cold
after being Leaf picture # 9
too cold but ***I don't feel this is the problem. ***
I think it may be Birthmarking
or haloing picture # 10, or Birthmarking picture # 11.
Birthmarking or
Change in Culture Picture # 14.
On bottom of page he tells how Change in Culture could be just letting a plant go dry for extended period of time.
He also says if it's only one leaf it is not PH.
He also says Birthmarking is actually the leaf sporting .
Please go here to see the pictures and learn more
And once again everyone Please isolate your new plants 2-3 months .
http://steverd.com/violets/leaves/leaf-id.htm
Hi Allison,
This is one I got from Walmart a couple months ago. It was fine when I got it and it has been indoors here at work for over a month. This just started after I moved it closer to the lights so that may be the problem
I have another one here that I bought at the same time that seems to be fine. I'll move the plant back down on the rack and see how it goes.
I know I need to bring in some more trays for water for humidity as the A/C is on here all the time and it gets pretty dry. Some of the leaves on the AV & epicias has gotten dry brown edges.
Jan...
You think Jan ? Most times too much light will burn the leaves . ?? I thought it reminded me more of this leaf here ?
I've had leaves burn from too much sun light/or light and they did not look like your's ?
See if this can be seen better ? A leaf from too much light can also look like a leaf with PH problem . This is a picture of this type of leaf problem on link above too.
Either way if it's birth marking it won't go away when moved from the light.
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This message was edited Mar 23, 2006 2:37 PM
I think if it were lighting the blotching would be more uniform over the entire plant. Especially the centers were the leaves are more tender.
Yes and I was just reading some Av's are sensitive to light .THese plants can only be grown in ( Windowsills) natural light as they are sensitive to artificial lights. Treatment is to remove plant and grow in natural light only and leaves will eventually return to their natural color.
I don't think it's from this though nor from leaf burn would look different.
Is you leaf still feel the same or is it soft and damaged ?
Try growing it in Natural light , if it does "not "go back to solid green most likly it's " Sporting" Birth marking.
Oh yes and if it was too much light center leaves would be tight and center would diffidently be affected.
Hi Allison,
It doesn't look like that at all. the yellow lines are kinda squiggly.
I tried to check the whole thing for bugs,worms, etc, but can't see anything over or under leaves or soil. It sort of reminds me of tomato cut worm damage.
OH wow it has yellow lines. Can't see them in the picture you did not mention. Do you have a 30z power loup ?
Viruses
Foliage is streaked, Mottled or spotted.
Flowers are sometimes streaked or mottled.
SOLUTION:
No control, Destroy infected plant, so if will not spread
>>>>
Line like this can mean Thrips
http://www.reedsgreenhouse.com/leaves/leaf20.jpg
Lines like this can mean water damage
http://www.reedsgreenhouse.com/leaves/leaf18.jpg
Good Luck let us know how you make out.
I have a Walmart Optimara that is doing this, too. Here's a picture. There are no yellow streaks, it just looks like it is "becoming variegated." This is the only leaf that is doing this. Any ideas on this?
(Ignore the brown spot at the top left of the leaf. That's Nestle Quik from when my kids were making chocolate milk. I had these on the kitchen table rearranging my plants. LOL)
I went back and reread what you posted, Allison. I'm sure it's too cold in my house for AVs sometimes, but this is the only leaf on the only plant that is doing this. Seems to me if it were a "too cold" issue more leaves or more plants would be doing this.
Yes well I feel your's and Jan's are different. Jan lives in Florida and though we get some cool weather I don't think it would cause this but her's has yellow lines are kinda squiggly.
Your's Amy could be cold but yeah like you said one spot ? But who knows. Could be a birthmark also !
Keep an eye on it and let us know how you make out. Laurie asked for plants with foliage with blotches !
Amy this leaf got too cold.
http://steverd.com/violets/leaves/leaf9.jpg
That picture you linked to doesn't look like the leaves on any of my plants, so I'm thinking it must not be cold damage. The plant seems quite healthy overall, and since that's the only leaf...I just don't know. I'll go check and see if I see a sucker forming around that leaf...
This plant has a sucker right at the base of that leaf and the leaves of the sucker are perfectly round and very light green - not like the mom plant at all. Maybe it's sporting! How cool!
African Violet Leaf Problems
http://steverd.com/violets/leaves/leaf-id.htm
I like Sports. All Rob's Foliage Chimeras are Sports from hus other solid green plants :))
Here's a picture. You can see the splotchy leaf on the left. At the base of it is the baby. There seems to be a second baby directly to the right of the first one. What do you think? See how round the leaves on the two babies are?
Wouldn't it be cool if it did sport to a chimera?? I vow not to get my hopes up, though. I'm not good at removing suckers. Guess I need to check the sticky.
Here's a newbie question for you... Is a sport still a sucker? I know a sport is different from the mother plant, but do you still call it a sucker when it's a baby on the mom plant?
You never know. Have to wait until they get larger.
Sports can do all kinds of things :))
This plant solid foliage sported l
Rob's Fiddle Faddle (7431) 10/06/1990 (R. Robinson) Semidouble rose-pink. Dark green, pointed, hairy, serrated/red back. Semiminiature
Rob's Lucky Ducky (9395) 10/15/2004 (R. Robinson) Semidouble dark rose-pink pansy. Variegated dark green, white and pink, pointed, serrated; sucker propagation. Semiminiature
And there's many more !
http://www.avsa.org/Library/sports.htm
Should I leave the babies on the mom plant til they get larger, to be sure I don't kill them by removing them, or should I go ahead and take them off and pot them up separately? In this case, I don't mind the mom plant not blooming by supporting the babies.
Well you have to wait till it grows ad see if different from mom. But in order to name a Sport you need one parent name. You also have to grow it out three generations. Mom plant does not count. This is to make sure it is stable. All notes. There is a lot in naming and registering a plant.
Leave them one till larger easier to take off. I have had lots of plants and still do have plants covered with suckers blooming :)) But their vintage or rare and I'm waiting for them to get a little bigger but Mom keeps blooming away !
Amy you can't name a plant from a NOID though. Mom plant has to be named.
Amy I bumped the sport thread up
http://davesgarden.com/forums/t/565175/
I'll leave them with the mom plant for a while, then. I need to repot it, though. Wonder if that would hurt the babies? My plants pout when I repot them out of the "store soil." Do you repot when the soil is more moist or dry?
Mom is either Fireball or Ultra Violet Flash. The label on the pot says Fireball, but I have two that say Fireball and one is actually Ultra Violet Flash, just the wrong label on the pot. (Gotta love Optimara's tagging technique!) Neither of them are blooming, so I don't know which it is for certain. Even if it's not something I could name, it will be really fun for me to see if it actually is a sport. This would be my first sport, you know. :o)
Thank you for bumping that.
Amy don't re=pot intil sucker babies are large enough to be in their own pots. Doing it now will disturb or lose the suckers.
You know Ultra Violets are not from Optimara/Holtkamp
Ultra Violets are Hyrbridized by (Green Circle/Blansit)
Well, don't I feel dumb? LOL I bought an Optimara named Flash that I somehow got in my mind was Ultra Violet Flash. What does Optimara have that is named Flash?
I won't repot Mom then. Don't want to disturb the babies.
No named sports for me, then, if the mom isn't Fireball. That's OK, though. I still think it will be fun to see what happens with them! :o)
Just disregard all I just said. They're not Optimaras at all! The Label says Nature's Heritage - Grown by VWI Fletcher, NC
There are no Optimara Flash or Fireball they are Ultra Violets.
Ultra Violet Fireball (8365) 02/23/1996 (Green Circle/Blansit) Single dark coral red sticktite pansy. Medium green, plain. Standard
Ultra Violet Flash (8366) 02/23/1996 (Green Circle/Blansit) Single red sticktite pansy/white edge. Medium green, pointed. Standard
Ultra Violet Sunbeam (8384) 02/23/1996 (Green Circle/B. Johnson) Single pink sticktite pansy. Dark green, plain. Standard
Ultra Violet Sunburst (Green Circle/Blansit) Single white pansy/pink ruffled edge. Medium green. Standard
Ultra Violet Billy (8360) 02/23/1996 (Green Circle/B. Johnson) Single blue sticktite pansy/white edge. Medium green, plain, pointed. Standard
There'a a whole bunch of them you can find them in stores, vendors, ebay for sale.
Yes remeber their names were Ultra Violets :))
