Does anyone out there own a 1981 copy of The Modern Nuseryman? Faber and Faber Limited. London
I need to know what is written on page 412 by Toogood please.
Does anyone out there own a copy of The Modern Nurseryman?
I bet co-author, John Stanley, has a copy around somewhere. Why don't you send him an e-mail through his consulting business?
Go to the link below, click on "about us" ---> "meet the consultants" ---> and then keep poking around until you get to his bio, which lists the book. That's definitely him.
http://www.johnstanley.cc/contact_us/contact_us.phtml
Why you little super sleuth you! Good work!
Now, exactly how do I approach him and ask him to please type out for me what was written on page 412 because my library doesn't have the book and it's no where to be found within my county for a library exchange? I think I am going to have to pass on this one. I'm normally pretty assertive but I don't feel comfortable asking this poor guy to merely type out that whole page for some "needy" female so she can see exactly what was written about increased success of pine cutting takes in 20% shade. I'd feel... like an absolute ding a ling. I am very tempted but I just can't.
If he no longer has the text file, just ask him to xerox or scan the page and offer to pay him for his trouble. People do that with me occasionally (for my first book, out of print now) and I'm happy to oblige when I have time.
Guy S.
Oh come on. I work for a major newspaper. This is normal everyday stuff. Write the guy! Do it now! You can do it. You can do it. YAAAAAAY Equil!!! You GO girl!
I'll search it in my library when I'm there tonight for you.
Al
IF, and only if Al comes up empty handed, I'll contact him.
Sorry Joulz, he wrote that book over 20 years ago. I doubt seriously if he wants to be bothered. I'm sure he'd be gracious, but he'd probably begrudge having opened up my e-mail.
Sorry, but no dice. Title and author no go. We have like a 4 county system too.
One tree book I get from the library I like is Pironne's tree maintenance.
Send him an email and plead insanity.
Al
Thanks for trying Al. I tried the Milwaukee Public Library System and struck out already. I should have figured that if Chicago (Cook County IL) didn't have it that they wouldn't have it either.
Ok Joulz, I did it. Time to wait and see if I get the information I want.
Interesting, I just received an automated response that stated someone from their team would be responding to me in 24 hours.
If I wrote a book and 20 years later somebody was trying to find part of it, and went so far as to find me personally, I would be flattered! In fact, I would go happily to the copy machine and then the fax machine, and I would write you a nice note to boot. But that's just me.
Me personally, I'd try to help but that's just me. I hope he is one of the "helpful" types and is in a position to scan the page and e-mail it to me. That would be nice. We'll see. I was pleasantly surprised to receive that automated response.
What a sweet man. He got back to me and here's the gist of his response-
The book has 412 pages and the page you mention is the index page.I have just flicked through the book and can see no reference to Pine cuttings.At that time the Forest industry in the UK was experimenting with pine cuttings but I cannot recall specific details.
Have you tried the International Plant Propaqgatores year books.I'm sure you will find information on the subject in one of their books.
Looks as if the citations I had read provided me with the wrong page number to the information I wanted.
Also looks as if I am going to have some frustrating fun tracking down the International Plant Propagators year books he suggested.
See now aren't you glad you didn't buy the book off Amazon? On the other hand, if you had the book, could you look through it and find what you needed? Is it actually there somewhere, or is John telling you it's not there at all?
Good for you for being brave and sending him a message!! Well done!!
I wish I could have bought the book off of Amazon because I could have poked around and extracted the information I wanted. I don't think he is telling me the information I wanted isn't there, I think he is telling me that when he flipped through the pages that he couldn't readily find what it was I was looking for. Big disappointment to find the citations had stated the research info I wanted was on 412 when that was the page # to the index.
Hey Julie....
How did you know I tried to buy the book from Amazon? I also tried to purchase the book from a few other sources and struck out. Do you know this man personally?
Pardon my ignorance here, but are there any newer books that might cover that topic?
Al
Oh wow! They have the book at the Rutgers University library down the street! Hmm, wonder if I can get my husband to go down there and get it for me? Don't know if it's the sort of book they'll let you take out. If I get it, would I be able to look stuff up for you? This might have to be a phone conversation!
I didn't KNOW you tried to buy the book from Amazon, but doesn't everybody look there if they're looking for a book? No, I've never even heard of that book, or John Stanley, or "Toogood" before this thread. I didn't even realize "Toogood" was a name until I googled the book! Does that reveal something about me -- that I'd never heard of that book? Will I be forever banned from posting in this forum from now on? ; )
Could you write John back and ask him if he knows where you might find a copy of the book?
Al, I'm not even sure what the topic IS! Equil: what is it you're looking for, specifically? Something about pine cuttings.
Specifically-
"Shading of cuttings was once thought not to benefit the cuttings in their task of root development. It was believed that shading cuttings hindered the photosynthesis process, which would reduce the rooting activity. Photosyntisis is responsible for the production of carbohydrates which will aid cuttings in the formation of roots. There are several reason associated with shading. It prevents leaf scorch, and aids in the prevention of excess buildup of carbohydrates, which will actually hinder the development of rooting systems (Stanley and Toogood 1981). An adequate amount of shading is around 20% from the beginning of spring to the end of fall."
I know, I am a boring person but I wanted to know the details.
We wouldn't be here or who we are if we weren't pokey/curious.
Tuck in the back of your mind that my wife is a professional librarian retired. Searching brings out ......... tenacity. Not afraid of wires either!
I have a decent collection of gardening books....... have access to a Univ library......... and yah we merged libraries when we married.
Bill in Newfoundland zone 5a
Oh goodie! Reinforcements on the way!
Julie, doubtful your husband will be able to walk out with that book.
Bill, I forgot about your wife!
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