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Decumbent Cincinnati, OH(Zone 6b) Mar 06, 2006

Does this look like Picea orientalis to you experts?

Scott

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ViburnumValley Scott County, KY(Zone 5b) Mar 06, 2006

Yes, but as I might quote the redoubtable Resin,

"Give us a cone!"

Which, hopefully, then looks like this.

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StarhillForest Illinois, IL(Zone 5b) Mar 06, 2006

Carpinus piceana.

Guy S.

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Resin Northumberland, United Kingdom(Zone 9a) Mar 06, 2006

Yep, Picea orientalis

Resin

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conifer50 Ellijay, GA(Zone 7a) Mar 06, 2006

About 120 years from now and in favorable growing conditions your P. orientalis could have a trunk like this 3'+ diameter /120' high giant Oriental Spruce growing in Highlands, North Carolina!

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Decumbent Cincinnati, OH(Zone 6b) Mar 06, 2006

Hi ConEd 50,

I'm willing to bet I'll miss that! The Picea orientalis I photographed was at a park, and was already 30' tall. Even with that headstart, I still doubt I'll ever see it reach 120'. But, I might live long enough to go see a big one in North Carolina.

Scott

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ViburnumValley Scott County, KY(Zone 5b) Mar 06, 2006

Dextromethorphan:

Surely you've seen the fine fellows that grace Spring Grove Cemetery? If not, get thee hence! Many, many excellent examples of Oriental spruce are to be found there, easily exceeding 100' (30.3 m+/-) in all their glory.

Confounded50:

Where is Highlands, NC? Is this tree on an estate, arboretum, campus, what?

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conifer50 Ellijay, GA(Zone 7a) Mar 07, 2006

VV , get your road atlas out and look just above the northeast corner of Ga., "you can't miss it." This tree as well as several other large Picea orientalis is located on a tract of land adjacent to the local high school and is owned by the "Highlands Hiker Club." There's also some huge Nordman Fir there as well with the largest said to be the tallest in U.S. The high elevation(~4000') ,high rainfall, and cool summer temperatures probably account for their "excessive" size.

ps: let's don't forget the "age" factor, it may be the most important factor!
Also, I noticed the Nordman's had reseeded prolificantly in nearby woods but with no regeneration from the Oriental Spruce.

conifer50

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Resin Northumberland, United Kingdom(Zone 9a) Mar 07, 2006

Hi Despondent & co.,

You've all a fair way to go yet - it is known in the wild to 57m tall and 4m diameter:
http://www.conifers.org/pi/pic/orientalis.htm

The UK champs are 37m tall and 1.25m diameter

Resin

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