Here's a pic of our most recent questionable AV.
I think mine is more to the fuschia shades than the light pink shade??
I'll try and get a better pic of the blossoms and leaves..
MsC
CritterO...Gunda WHO???
I'll bet no one told it what color it is supposed to be. It looks light pink to me, but I'm a male! Who's the ruffle in the background?
Oh that pretty ruffled beauty is my Ness's Fantasy Gold.
It is just now setting some blooms and I'm waiting to see them.
The Gunda Who plant is a mystery CritteO & I traded a while back, both of ours are bloming & it does not match the name & description sent with it. I bought a batch of Rob's leaves off ebay back a year or so and this was a trailer I got.. It isn't blue that's for sure..lol
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Maybe they just Sported MsC
Is it on the Registered Sport list ?
http://www.avsa.org/Library/sports.htm
Possibly Rob's "Wooloomooloo" or "Lily Pily" maybe?
Sporting from blue to pink seems unlikely?
We're debating as to whether it might be another Rob's variety... 'Lily Pily' is out because there's no fantasy, but what about..
Rob's Sailor Bill (9295) 11/21/2003 (R. Robinson) Semidouble-double light rose-pink pansy/darker eye. Medium green, pointed. Semiminiature trailer
Rob's Sticky Wicket (6467) 01/27/1987 (R. Robinson) Semidouble light fuchsia. Medium green, pointed. Semiminiature trailer
Rob's Wooloomooloo (8074) 03/05/1994 (R. Robinson) Double bright pink sticktite. Medium green, plain, pointed. Semiminiature trailer
I'm leaning toward 'Sticky Wicket' at the moment.... maybe my other 'Sticky Wicket' will bloom soon, and then I can compare them.
Here's the photo of 'Sticky Wicket' from FC:
And here's a photo of my "Gundar Who?" with blooms just opening.
These photos & descriptions show again the problems with trying to identify AVs by bloom color, LOL!
Hey, I wanted to be sure to add the same thing I told MsC when these rose-pink blooms opened... I love this little plant! I'm so glad she shared it with me, whether or not it turned out to be what it "should be."
Has anyone else had a problem with AVs from Cedar Creek not blooming true, or did MsC just get a mixed up order from them?
Many sellers guarantee their plants to be true to type... I wonder if MsC has emailed him about this?
Interesting dilemma for sure..lol
Yes, I think it is very possible that it sported..Rob's variety certainly has the habit of doing that. I think it is more likely it was mislabled by mistake.
I haven't contacted the seller yet and probable won't, it has been over a year and I'm not sure it is all that important. It does make me wonder about the seller because of the leaves I purchased only 1of the 3 in the batch that lived bloomed true...that's kinda hard to dismiss.
At any rate it is a blooming fool and very pretty.
MsC
If you contact the seller, he may be able to ID the ones that didn't bloom true, in case it was a question of mixed labels rather than sports or noids. Also, I think that's the sort of thing I'd want to know about if I were selling plants.
I'll contact him and see what he can offer.
I've purchased plants from him before and don't think he will mind . I'll let you know what info I get in return.
MsC
Oh guess what blue has Sported to Pin and Pink to blue many times :)) And sometimes Sports go back to original colors too.
For example
Rob's Boolaroo (8053) 03/05/1994 (R. Robinson) Semidouble light pink sticktite pansy/bright blue fantasy. Medium green, quilted. Semiminiature trailer
>>>>>>>>
SPORTED TO ;
Rob's Gundaroo (9294) 11/21/2003 (R. Robinson) Semidouble medium blue pansy. Medium green, plain. Semiminiature trailer
AND
3+++++-Precious did this she wants my lap lol
Rob's Outer Orbit (8738) 07/25/1998 (R. Robinson) Semidouble dark blue pansy/bright pink spots, white edge. Variegated dark green and white, quilted/red back. Semiminiature
SPORTED TO;
Rob's Inner Orbit (9037) 05/31/2001 (R. Robinson) Semidouble pink pansy/white edge. Variegated dark green and white, quilted. Semiminiature
>>>>>>>
Rob's Toorooka (8069) 03/05/1994 (R. Robinson) Double dark rose-red sticktite/variable white marking. Medium-dark green, plain, serrated. Semiminiature trailer
Sported to ;
Rob's Jindalee (8176) 06/05/1995 (R. Robinson) Double medium-dark blue sticktite pansy/variable white mottled tips. Medium green, pointed, serrated. Semiminiature trailer
>>
Blue Boy (41) 1948 (Armacost & Royston) Single dark violet-blue. Ovate, pointed. Standard
SPORTED TO; :)) I love this one :))
Pink Girl (AVS48) (R. Baxter) Single pink. Ovate girl foliage. Standard
>>>>>>>
Any plant can sport to any other color and back again.
You will also find Fantasy's Sport often.
Some of Rob's Fantasy and other hybrdizer's you will find will sport to any of the colors of the parent.
>>>>>
Easy to sport examples
Rob's Boolaroo (8053) 03/05/1994 (R. Robinson) Semidouble light pink sticktite pansy/bright blue fantasy. Medium green, quilted. Semiminiature trailer
>>>>>>>
Rob's Galiwinku (8059) 03/05/1994 (R. Robinson) Double red-orchid sticktite/dark blue fantasy. Medium green, pointed. Semiminiature trailer
>>>>>
Rob's Lilli Pilli (8063) 03/05/1994 (R. Robinson) Semidouble dark lavender-pink sticktite pansy/dark blue fantasy. Medium green, quilted. Semiminiature trailer
>.Any and more could give you pink flowers :))
Oh guess what blue has Sported to Pin and Pink to blue many times :)) And sometimes Sports go back to original colors too.
For example
Rob's Boolaroo (8053) 03/05/1994 (R. Robinson) Semidouble light pink sticktite pansy/bright blue fantasy. Medium green, quilted. Semiminiature trailer
>>>>>>>>
SPORTED TO ;
Rob's Gundaroo (9294) 11/21/2003 (R. Robinson) Semidouble medium blue pansy. Medium green, plain. Semiminiature trailer
AND
3+++++-Precious did this she wants my lap lol
Rob's Outer Orbit (8738) 07/25/1998 (R. Robinson) Semidouble dark blue pansy/bright pink spots, white edge. Variegated dark green and white, quilted/red back. Semiminiature
SPORTED TO;
Rob's Inner Orbit (9037) 05/31/2001 (R. Robinson) Semidouble pink pansy/white edge. Variegated dark green and white, quilted. Semiminiature
>>>>>>>
Rob's Toorooka (8069) 03/05/1994 (R. Robinson) Double dark rose-red sticktite/variable white marking. Medium-dark green, plain, serrated. Semiminiature trailer
Sported to ;
Rob's Jindalee (8176) 06/05/1995 (R. Robinson) Double medium-dark blue sticktite pansy/variable white mottled tips. Medium green, pointed, serrated. Semiminiature trailer
>>
Blue Boy (41) 1948 (Armacost & Royston) Single dark violet-blue. Ovate, pointed. Standard
SPORTED TO; :)) I love this one :))
Pink Girl (AVS48) (R. Baxter) Single pink. Ovate girl foliage. Standard
>>>>>>>
Any plant can sport to any other color and back again.
You will also find Fantasy's Sport often.
Some of Rob's Fantasy and other hybrdizer's you will find will sport to any of the colors of the parent.
>>>>>
Easy to sport examples
Rob's Boolaroo (8053) 03/05/1994 (R. Robinson) Semidouble light pink sticktite pansy/bright blue fantasy. Medium green, quilted. Semiminiature trailer
>>>>>>>
Rob's Galiwinku (8059) 03/05/1994 (R. Robinson) Double red-orchid sticktite/dark blue fantasy. Medium green, pointed. Semiminiature trailer
>>>>>
Rob's Lilli Pilli (8063) 03/05/1994 (R. Robinson) Semidouble dark lavender-pink sticktite pansy/dark blue fantasy. Medium green, quilted. Semiminiature trailer
>.Any and more could give you pink flowers :))
Mann I can't get on and then it comes up page can't be displayed. ...Then I just have to try to get on again sometimes can most time can't.
But i'm glad my posting of blue to pink and pink to blue Sports can happen and does posted :))
Many plant all colors Sport to white too ! There is no limit to what a Sport wants to do. It's all up to God :))
Thanks Allsion,
I got a reply back from the seller and he confirms our thoughts about it sporting. He said they have to detroy several plants of Rob's varieties becasue they sport so easily and can't be sold as a named variety.
I'm pretty sure mine has sported and may even be different than CritterO's plant. lol
Mine is pretty and a blooming fool so I'll keep it as "Gunda Who??"
That's the good & bad side of Av's and why we have so many different ones,too.
**** I'm still having trouble getting on & going anywhere so you're not alone...lol
MsC
I am having a lot of trouble getting on and staying on lol
I feel Sprots are fun and give some exciting colors !
Not good for show and selling. But interesting to own and then you can grow them out three generations and meet requierments and register them :))
I love ones that Sport to a Chimera. . They say one in every hundred leaves put down Sport, i have heard it said if you buy enough fantasys av's you might get a Chimera !
Allison, I had no idea the color changes could be so radical when plants sported! Thanks for the fun list of examples!
In case my 'Rob's Gundaroo' sport is different, maybe I'll call it "Guessaroo noid".... I'm sure my "Humpty Who noid" is the same as MsC's, though, because she sent me a nice crown cutting, thinking it was a chimera....
Here's one that looks like Humpty Who too... I grew it from a leaf of a 'Rob's Humpty Doo' that I got in another trade... First blooms! Isn't it adorable??
It's enough to make ya shake your head that for sure!
I thought I was going color blind...lol
It is hard enough to tell a blue flower from a purple flower and pink and fuschia apart...then they go and sport on you too! Gesshhhh amazing lil rascals aren't they???
MsC
Oooh but so pretty! I love them all and I think the sports are really interesting.
Oh April ! Nice to see you :))
I think the Sports are so interesting too !
I will be getting a Blue Boy plant this Spring and to hope it may Sport me a Pink Girl :))
But- correct me if I am wrong, not all will sport; even if you have an AV that sported it doesn't necessarily mean that if I have the same original AV that it will sport? Is that correct?
So I have a question, is this one a chimera? It 'looks' chimer-ish (is that a word)
Could this plant have 'sported' itself into a chimera? (sorry to sound so dumb)
Here's the whole enchilada
That bloom looks like Chimera. You have to have most blooms Chimera. Tyr rooting by lead and sucker see what bllooms true/ All Chimeras are Sport /Muntants ( SP)
Sticky :))
Chimera: Spontaneous mutation which creates a distinctive bloom pattern called pinwheel. This bloom characteristic is genetically unstable, though it can sometimes be reproduced from peduncle cuttings. Leaf cuttings will not reproduce a chimer
Mutation: Describes an African Violet or part of an African Violet which exhibits physical characteristics indicative of a genetic change in that variety. The genetic change may either be induced, as occurred during the Space Violet program, or it may be spontaneous, which simply means that the cause of the change is unknown. When propagating by leaf, approximately one out of every 100 leaves will produce a mutation
I think somebody explained to me that the "pinwheel" in a chimera bloom extends all the way to the edge of the petals... so that little edge of purple around the whole petal could mean it's not actually a chimera, which would be good news since it would mean easier propagation of this gorgeous plant!
Allegro Darcy Farrow (8856) 03/31/2000 (J. Stromborg) Single chimera pale red-violet pansy/white stripe, variable blue fantasy; notched top petals. Light green, pointed, pebbled, hairy. Miniature
Atlantic City (Unknown) Chimera blue large/wide white stripe. Standard
Cherry Bomb (S. Sorano) Semidouble-double chimera light pink fluted star/fuchsia stripe, red fantasy. Variegated dark green and cream. Standard
Yes... see how the white pinwheel extends all the way to the edge of the petal? Actually, I see one petal where that may not be true, at 6 o'clock on the second photo, but I don't see the sort of purple edge that was on begonia's flower. As I said, I see that as a good thing -- begonia's lovely can perhaps be propagated by leaf and produce these wonderful chimera-ish blooms!
Exotic Star (9092) 01/12/2002 (D. Thompson) Single chimera white sticktite frilled star/purple stripe. Medium green, plain, quilted, wavy, scalloped. Standard
Same is true of the pink pinwheel on Cherry Bomb... extends all the way to the edge of the petal.
Ma's Wicked Witch (9298) 11/21/2003 (O. Robinson) Semidouble chimera cream-white to blush pink pansy/blue stripe, white fantasy. Variegated dark green and white, plain, pointed, quilted. Standard
Neptune's Jewels (9179) 02/03/2003 (Lyndon Lyon Greenhouses/Sorano) Semidouble-double chimera pink large frilled star/white stripe, blue fantasy. Medium green, plain, serrated. Standard
Rob's Magnetic Field (7033) 01/05/1989 (R. Robinson) Double chimera dark pink/dark blue stripe. Dark green girl foliage/red back. Miniature
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Rebel's Astro Spinner (8888) 08/28/2000 (R. Bann) Single-semidouble chimera pink large frilled star/fuchsia stripe, fantasy; wide white edge. Medium green, quilted, glossy, serrated/red back. Standard
Chimeras are all different and the more I look at Lauries plant may be trying to sport Chimera.
White stripes purple edge blooms. I would continue to grow and see how blooms keep coming out Laurie.
I would also Progate by leaf and by sucker. ALso I fount if I take a crown leaf or two off it will start to sucker. Please keep us updated i love it :))
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Rob's What Ever. A easy plant to grow and bloom. Mounds of sdbl. dark fuchsia-red blooms with white side stripes. Prolific bloomer over dark, serrated, foliage. Semiminiature. #7567
http://www.robsviolet.com/rob's_what_ever.htm
white side stripes.
Goodness..those are all SOOOOO Pretty :)
I hope some day I get good at propagating the chimeras :) They are just gorgeous!