I got it at Lowe's tonight. It's tagged, Violet, Mini. Very specific, wouldn't you say? LOL So I have no clue what variety it is. It is in a tiny 2.25 inch pot and is just cute as a button! The flowers are light purple and have an iridescence to them in the light. You can probably see it in the picture. I'm so tickled with it!
I see no evidence of it being potbound. No roots showing through the drain holes. Think it would be alright to leave it in this pot for a while?
I checked it as carefully as I could, with the knowledge I have, for pests or disease and don't see any, though I know that doesn't mean they're not there. I'm going to be doing a Bayer Tree and Shrub drench on all my houseplants as soon as they need to be watered again, as I found mealy bugs on one of my hoyas. Can I use that on this AV as well? I could bottom water it with the BT&S. Would that be alright, do you think?
Just had to share!
RG
I finally got one!
RG your plant is beautiful ! Most insects/bugs can only be seen under 30x loop and lots hide from light. I would isolate it and if it's your First Av keep it along. Mealy bugs can multiply fast and cause a lot of problems even death of your plants.
Most plants bought at lowes and stores like this the soil is heavy so I like to re-pot them into my light soil-less mixture .
I don't know anything about Bayer Tree and Shrub drench , on African violets maybe someone else can. Enjoy your new plant. Thanks for sharing, Allison
That is really a pretty color and flower, almost looks like a rose.
Rain, I used Bayer at half strength for my AV's last week, so far so good. BUT I used the Rose care. Similar in that they are bothe systemic.
I did use the Bayer Tree/shrub on my hoya with mealies and it did the trick. BUT don't rely just on the Bayer. You might want to use rubbing alcohol as a secondary treatment (on the hoya, not the AV, I have no experience with rubbing alcohol on an AV. )
hiya. The bayer product will be fine, assuming you have the one with the active ingredient imidacloprid. Just weaken the dosage. It's a good idea to use it to kill off any fungus gnat larvae as well.
AVs have very fine roots, so you may not be able to see them. But in any event AVs like to be pot bound. Many minis like to be in 2.5-3" pots forever, so I wouldn't worry about the pot size itself. However, if you get the sense that the the potting mix is old (for example, if it smells sour when you water), then go ahead and repot using the same pot size but new soil. Some people recommend a bit of root trimming and new potting mix every 6 months, so you don't have to worry about it sulking too much after a repot.
It's pretty!
So cute! Thanks for sharing your picture.
Thanks for the compliments and help! I am just in awe of it! It's so small and cute. In my ignorance, I thought it was just a young plant and it would grow larger. Now I'm really tickled with it, knowing it will stay that small. The things I have left to learn... LOL I may have to find more of these minis... like I need another addiction. :o)
Are there any true blue avs?
RG
Very beautiful
Nanna
Question:
I have used both Bayer products, Tree and Shrub & Rose Care- both are fine products, but I never thought of using either one on house plants- what a good idea, you guys are soooo smart! To the question, if I use the Tree and Shrub is 1/2 strenght ok for my AVs or should it be more dilute? and the Rose Care that I have includes a fertilizer, is that the same one that you are referring to?
Thx
Yes April, I used the rose one on my av's last week. I used it half strength and so far so good. Everyone looks great. I also did a neem dunk on the foliage which is nice because it does shine up the leaves. (can't remember who else mentioned the shine factor with neem)
Well shoot I will have to try that- could you add that as just an additive when you are potting or repotting?
The blossoms are so unique delicate beauty the
color, I have never seen a blossom of this color and beauty like this one before.
I am completely in love with the blossoms on this one. It is as if they have been sprinkled with glitter! They looked bluish in Lowe's when I bought it, but I guess that was their lighting. It's actually a light lavender, just a shade darker than it's showing up on my computer screen.
Now how in the world am I supposed to resist this addiction with this little beauty smiling at me?? I've already been trying to figure how many minis would fit in my kitchen windowsills! LOL Don't suppose anyone has any to share? *wink wink*
RG
I have lot's of Mini's to share :)) Large ones to for the Standard loves and trailers for the trailer lovers :)) Allison
Oh boy!! Maybe if it ever gets warm again here I could get some from you. That would be wonderful!
Thanks Allison!
Yes after the Holidays I can send Miniatures :)) I have insulation and heat packs :)) Count how many you have room for give each room not to touch each other. . Miniatures grow up to 6
inches and Semi-Miniatures are 6 - 8 Inches. They should not touch each other. End tables with lamps, or windows or both are great to grow them :)) Allison
And the excitement grows! :o) How neat that you have heat packs so you can send them anytime! Just let me know when you've got time to send them and what I need to send you in return. I'll certainly have a count ready for you.
Thanks a million, Allison!!
RG
RG after New Years will be good. Holiday shipping is slow and ruff on plants :)) Allison
Sorry I didn't get back to you sooner, Allison!
Those pictures are beautiful! Pat Champagne is gorgeous! I love variegated foliage. Those minis are just so great. They are so tiny, yet covered in blooms!
I had thought of ordering some pots, just so I'd have them for any new avs I get or to put down leaves. What size would be best to have on hand for that purpose?
2 inch are best for mini's , semi-mini's ...babies. ....
I use thumbprint 1-1 1/2 inch pots for mini suckers, micros, and some minis
When Standard babies get about 6 inches or more i move up to a 2.50 pot, 9 inches up i go to 3 inch pot
12 inches across i go up to 4 inch pots..
When ever i give a plant away it comes in a new pot that has been soaked in bleach....I always use new bleach pots and soil when transplantting.
planting your plants in pots can only give you porblems down the rode, root rot and more .......
I use 3 oz. solo cups when putting down leaves ....
use 2 inch pots more than any size !
Thanks Allison! I think I'll order the 2 inch ones (as well as some other sizes I need). They would be a good size to pot up other seeds I've germinated, as well. I'll also pick up some solo cups at the store tomorrow. Couldn't hurt to have those on hand, either. :o)
Yes ! pots and solo cups, soil-less mix a must ! I am never without ! Each day I can get up I put leaves and suckers down ! I took a sucker off of Star wars this morning and also put two leaves down of it ! I can't pass my garden room without putting a leaf down lol
What is the recipe for a soil-less mix? I have had good luck rooting cuttings off other plants in pure perlite, but that may not be best for AVs. Ya gotta keep in mind that I'm just a newbie to all this! LOL
You can root Av leaves in perilite in you like ! I like using Miracle Grow potting mix, or Pro-mix, any African violet mix. I like my mix light as African violets like this and will grow well ! I use one part of the Miracle Grow with 3 parts perilite. Mixed well with water until just slightly moist .
Keep it in a sealed container or gallon zip lock bags . I use mine up ifast. Gallons a week ! Other ingredients may be added but not nessary. Like worm castings, Bat Guano, kelp meal, horticulture charcoal and so on....
Lots of people use pro-mix or some kind of soil-less mix ...one part, then one pat perilte and one part vermiculite. I use to use vermiculite but got tired of buying it lol and my plants don't mind !
When mixing my husband uses a large plastic gallon Folgers coffee container. You can use anything you like.
The reason perilte is added to mixes above as even the African violet mixes on the market are to heavy for the likes of growing African Violets. My husband gets perilit in large brown bag about 4 ft tall, Vermiculite can be bought like this also for under ten dollars each at Lowes or HD. Keep in mind soil-less mix does not have nurtients needed to grow African violets so you will need to follow a fertiling program. Best to use a kind of Fertilizer with NO Urea...I use it a 1/2 strengh each time I water !
Well great! I use Miracle Gro potting mix for all my plants, anyway, and usually have plenty of perlite on hand, so that works out well. Sounds like I knew what I was doing, even though I didn't know it. I use regular Miracle Grow fertilizer (granular mixed in water) on all my plants. I see the small bottles of AV fertilizer in the stores. Is that what you use, but 1/2 strength?
Linda becareful and read I think Miracle Grow fertilizer for African violets has Urea in it ?? It will burn their tender roots. I use Peter's, or Elenor's VF-11 or , I like the Optimara 20-5-10 Plant Food for growing leaves, babies , foliage and for more bloom I like the Optimara 14-12-14 Violet Food . You can buy both along with pots from Bluebird Greenhouse
http://www.bluebirdgreenhouse.com/html/supply01.htm
I will make sure I put Some Mini's in your box next week :)) Allison
Now see? That is why I bombard you with all these questions! LOL I'd have bought that MG AV fertilizer and thought I was a whiz! I'll find the Optimara. Seems like I saw something with the Optimara name on it at Lowe's or Home Depot, but I can't remember for certain. If not, I'll order some.
I know you get tired of all my questions, and I don't know how you have a moment to even look at a plant, with all I ask, but please know that I really do appreciate it. All my life I was told that AVs were impossible for just anyone to grow. I loved them so much, but never got any because I didn't want to kill them. After lurking around this forum (and asking a billion questions), I see that I can not only NOT kill them, but make them thrive and propagate them. Now, what could be better than that? :o)
Just let me know what I need to send to you for the package you're sending me. I'm so excited about getting them, I can hardly wait! I'm getting my windowsills cleared off and cleaning them, the windows, and the blinds so the AVs will have a fresh clean home to go straight into.
That's great ! My husband made me another 8 foot shelf under some windows in the living room and it's full of minis :)) One thing about African violets evryone can grow them ! Their fun and easy to grow making them fun and easy to share !
Don't you just love those supportive husbands? Mine got me a plant stand for Christmas, but couldn't wait, so he gave it to me early, and we went yesterday and bought the lumber and supplies for him to build a potting bench for me. He'll work on that tomorrow and Friday. I'll post pictures when it's done. :o)
That's awsome ! Are you putting lights on your stand too ? My husband has to do everything for me lol Sometimes he does not like soaking my trays and leaf boxes in the bath tub with bleach. Well putting them in loading the tub with hot water and bleach is ok but when it's time to take them out sometimes I think he'd rather not be. lol But he must help me so he does !
Yep! We have four lights on it now, because that's all they had. I need to get four more the next time they have them in stock so the whole of each shelf will be well lit. Actually I guess the whole thing is more of a rack. I'll post a picture of it below. The rack is 4 feet wide, and the lights are 18 or 24 inches, I can't remember which. We need to get four more lights so there can be two per shelf instead of just one. For now, it's much better than what my plants had before.
That's so sweet of your hubby to help you like that!
Very nice ! Soon you'll need another for African violets :)) I have heavy rubber ones five shelves each 2 feet by 4 ft. with each has two four ft shop light fixtures 4 light tubes. a shelf.
The plants and leaves are all named their free , Just shipping.
Nice picture thanks for sharing !
Amy check these out;
LADY BLUE (Burns) 7779 - Semidouble/double ruffled light blue star, variable thin white edge
http://www.african-violets.com/lady_blue.jpg
PRINCESS MOONBEAM (Fredette) - Semidouble, large, silvery light blue star. Dark tailored foliage.
http://www.african-violets.com/princess_moonbeam.jpg
I know their not the same but looking close to yours !
Oh I have TONS of minis :) they are my fascination :)
I am so glad someone else got bitten by the BUG!
Hey Allison
How many Micro minis do you have?
I have had no luck in tracking any of those down!
I have lot's of Minis. Not sure if there are any registered Micro Miniatures Av ? The tiny, tiny leaf ones are considered Micro Minautres.
I also like to pot a lot of my Minatures in the one inch thumbprint or 1 3/4 inch pots keeps them Micro !
We have a lot of miniatures going around you, me, jill, Laurie and more so with our trading we will have so many ! Most I have more than one or have leaves down.
Miniatures use to scare me when I first started growing ! Now I like Semi-miniatures and Miniatures best ! They take more care, more grooming, re-potting more often, less water but watering more often. Dry up a Miniature and it surly is going to want to die. But their so cute and most hav blossoms bigger than the plant itself ! They are well worth the extra efforts of owning them !
I posted this before some where can't find it but sense were all loving Minis I'm going to share it again !!
The Miniature Story From African Violets and Gesneriad questions answered by 20 experts and edited by Helen Vau Pelt Wilson 1966
Small African Violets appeal to a great many people, especially those with limited space/ Therefore this book devoted a section to the miniature and semi-miniature types. Elizabeth Prescott has contributed most of this section from her experience with miniature violets, which she grows to proportional perfection.
Miniatures come from propagation of regular varieties, and some are the products of hybridizing. Saintpaulia shumensis and 'Shine Boy' are the parents of many miniatures.
A mature miniature plant (one with four or five rows of small leaves) that is 6 inches or less across in diameter is a true miniature plant. A mature plant that slips gracefully through a 6-inch embroidery hoop is considered to be a true miniature.
A mature plant more than 6 but no more than 8 inches in diameter (a plant over 8 inches in diameter is considered a standard and not in the miniature class) Back when this book was written in 1966 there were in the neighborhood of seventy true miniatures.
Now there are almost 800 mini registered in FC and 1332 semi-miniature registered and others that are not.
There are the same colors and forms found in standard violets as in miniature violets. There are tailored, ruffled, girl, and variegated miniatures and flowers in the same colors and shades as the standard varieties.
What do you consider the most outstanding miniatures?
'Wee Willie Winkie', double white with orchid edges, 'Star Daisy' (Lyndon Lyon), large cerise-pink star, E.P.
What are the most recent miniature African violets?
The two mentioned (oh no I had a whole bunch of Wee Willie Winkie sold & gave away) above and 'King Lear', single wine with white edges; 'Tiny Rose’ (oops sold and gave those away too), (Lyndon Lyon), double rosy-pink, 'Loverly' (Anna Lee Violetry) variegated foliage, two-tone purple white edge; 'Candy', double light blue, white edge. E.P.
Miniatures for Showing
Miniature African violets are classed separately in official shows. There is increasing interest in and demand for miniatures. They received many blue ribbons and even tricolors. Because they require so much less space than standard varieties, they are extremely popular.
Is it a good practice to disbud miniatures in preparing a plant for show? Yes, providing there has been experience with that variety and the cultural conditions are constant. E.P.
Rate of Growth and Bloom
It is the nature of Miniatures to grow slower than standard varieties. Also, environmental condition might be unfavorable.
Do miniatures bloom as profusely as the larger varieties?
Yes, but some flower more abundantly than others, just as with standard varieties. E.P.
I find that my miniatures sucker readily. Is this normal?
Yes. They must be watched carefully and the suckers removed as soon as they are identified as such. E.P.
Notes on Culture
Does the culture of miniatures differ from that of large saintpaulias?
It is much the same, except the miniatures must be watered more frequently because a small mature plant in a small pot uses its food and water faster. If fluorescent light is used it must be adjusted to the size of the plant. If miniatures are grown in conjunction with standard plants the miniatures must be raised up on as invert pot or jar to receive adequate light. Seven inches below two 40-watt tubes is ideal. E.P.
Do you find miniatures difficult to grow?
No. They require more patience when growers on the windowsills though, because unpredictable natural light makes them grow more slowly. E.P.
Why are the miniatures given favored spots at your windows?
Because they require more constant. E.P.
Are miniature violets too fragile to be washed?
No. They are no more fragile than any other African violet. They thrive on an occasional sprinkling with warm water. E.P.
How often do you feed miniatures?
I fertilize with every watering at the rate of 1/20 of the recommended application of fertilizer used. E.P.
Miniatures under Lights
What fluorescent light tubes should be used for miniatures?
I use either 4-8 foot fixtures with the following combinations of tubes for miniatures: one Gro-Lux plus one daylight or cool white; or one daylight plus one natural white; or two cool white. E.P.
Do you recommend windowsill or fluorescent light growing for miniatures?
Fluorescent light, provided the plants are elevated to the correct height of 7 inches from the light tubes. E.P.
Pot, Soil, and Fertilizer
Is it necessary to re-pot miniatures?
Yes. Approximately once a year I remove my miniatures from their pots and gently remove the soil with a pencil and by shaking. Then I trim the roots slightly with a sharp scissors and re-pot in the same size fresh pot using new potting mix. E.P.
What kind and size pots do you grow your miniatures in?
Two and 2 1/2 inch plastic pots. Clay pots may also be used but the rims must be covered with foil and much more watering is necessary. I find clay pots impractical for any small plant. E.P.
What soil mixture do you prefer for miniatures?
I use Bob Reed's (brightwaters, new York) mix: I quart pasteurized soil, 1 quart Michigan peat, 1 quart Black Magic Mix, 1 quart vermiculite, 3 tablespoon whiting. Moisten the mix with 15-30-15 fertilizer at the rate of 1 teaspoon to two quarts of water. Do not feed again until plant reaches flowering stage. E.P.
Notes on Leaf Propagation
What is the best method of propagating miniatures?
Remove a leaf from a middle row of the parent plant. Cut the bas f the stem with a razor blade, leaving about 1/2 inch of stem. Let the cut dry for twenty minutes, then dust with hormone powder if desired. (I have never done this have you?) Insert in damps rooting medium of one-half Black Magic mix and one half vermiculite. Put the stem in on a slant so the base is not set very deep in the mix, thus enabling the plantlets to reach the surface more rapidly. E.P.
How long does it take from leaf cutting to bloom?
About six months to one year, depending upon the variety and culture conditions. The most recent hybrids propagate more rapidly. E.P.
Do young or old leaves on miniatures propagate best, and what is the best time of the year to start cuttings?
Take leaves from approximately the fourth row from the center for propagation. Any time of the year is all right for starting leaves except the summer months. Spring is usually the best. E.P.
How long a stem should be left on a miniature leaf to start it, and how many plantlets grow from one leaf?
Cut leaves with a stem about 1/2 inch long. Any amount from one to twenty plantlets may be expected from each leaf cutting. E.P.
Care of Leaf Cuttings
Do you feed leaf cuttings?
Yes, after they have roots in rooting mix. I use a one-half strength solution of a 15-30-15 soluble fertilizer. E.P.
Should the tiny plants that occasionally form on the leaves in vermiculite be left on?
This is rare, but when it happens the plantlets may be carefully removed from the leaf and set in rooting mix to grow roots. E.P.
When do you separate plantlets from the parent leaf?
When the plantlet has a crown of four to six little leaves. Then I am certain it has roots and can be transplanted successfully. I mix the potting soil with equal amount of vermiculite for the first potting. I find the grow faster and better in the diluted mix. E.P.
Happy Miniature African violet growing
