Here's an MG family member you don't see all that often. I germinated seed received from the curator of plants at a closeby botanical garden last winter and put the plants up in large pots. I allowed them to climb around in the greenhouse where they could get better humidity and winter warmth. My reward is now several vines crawling all over the trusses of the greenhouse with thousands of unopened buds. This morning was the first opening of buds. This is Convolvulaceae member steeped in the historical lore of the Aztec, Maya, Huichol, Chinatec, Zapotec and Mazatec indians and also known as Ololiuqui. A liqueur is made from the nectar of the flower called Xtabentun or "The Jewel Cordial". An exciting day for us to finally see this rather obscure plant flowering.
Turbina corymbosa finally blooming
Nice photos...the flowers look similar the the Ipomoea obscura,especially with the darkened area at the bottom of the tube...Have you noticed if your flowers produce any detectable scent at all(?) relatively soon after they open(?)...
Some closeups of the sepals and seedpods would be interesting to see and perhaps add to the database...
Thanks for the photos drdon(!)...
hiya R_C,
nice to meet you!
I've been waiting months to add this to the database and will once it is a little more fully open. There are literally hundreds upon hundreds of unopened flowers coming in the next few days and weeks, it's very exciting. The flowers do produce a lovely and sweet fragrance. I will certainly post further pictures of this plant and flowers for further ID scrutiny. As it gets a little further along I will also post pictures of the unripe seed capsules and the seed when properly ripened.
best,
don
High five! You must be grinning ear to ear. It's going to smell wonderful when they all open up.
:) Donna
How Beautiful
Thank for sharing
Thanks for the nice words. This one is indeed a treat for us in that it is not one of the more common species in this family. We are just awaiting the big show and all of the fragrance filling up the greenhouse. It should be a bit of fun to follow.
best to all,
don
Don are you going to try and catch the seeds? I can just picture you waiting around with your catchers mitt....lol.
:) Donna
hiya PG,
great to see you!
I've thought about draping a cheesecloth net under them so that I will be able to share seed from this wonderful plants with other DGers with greenhouses or living in zone 10 or above. I will also be returning seed to the BG's seed bank where I got them, and will be sharing them with friends that work at BGs or are serious collectors of ethnobotanicals.
today more flowers are opening, and it is apparently going to go on like this for some time. I hope that we can actually send seed down to the Mexican native plant conservatory at UNAM in Mexico City. I've already sent photos down to my contact there.
best to you,
don
I guess the cheese cloth would work much better than the mitt...lol. I'm sure the BG and any serious collectors will be very happy to receive the seeds.
:) Donna
That is such a goodlooker there. Congratulations on that one, it sure is a stunner. It sure feels great to have something bloom that you've been waiting on.
ttyl..
A.
hiya Gourd,
great to see you!
How was your vacation?
It is one of the exotics that I've certainly been waiting on....lol. But now that I've got it established It will be with us for a while. When you get a chance send me a dmail. I wanted to discuss Caesalpinia pulcherrima 'pink' with you. Really great to see you and I do hope your holiday was a super day.
best,
don
Hi Don,
Sure will.. Lots of family, friends, food, fun..and Christmas Parade down Central in Albuquerque... It is something when there are four grown friends in their 50's that went to school from 1st grade through Highschool all together.. we had a great time..
It was even funnier when we looked at our children and they looked like us when we were younger.. what a Holiday we had.
Got some seeds for the light Buttery looking Caesalpinia Pulcherrima Aurea too..
Will be starting lots of seeds this weekend. Gotta catch up on chores... whaaaaaaaa
The best to ya.. and hope your vacation was great..
A.
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I had correspondence several years ago with a gal in Vermont who grew her Turbina corymbosa in a 8" container and hers flowered in September...she overwintered indoors in a sunny window...no greenhouse...her plant was clonal and did not produce seeds...
There may be 'hope' for those living in zones cooler than zone 10 and without greenhouses...growing plants from the very first pods to ripen may help to produce plants that flower earlier and are better suited to the cooler zones...
Just some further thoughts on the subject...
Well there's some good news. I'm not sure how well these will produce seed in the greenhouse with few flying insects available to act as pollinators, but there is very good air circulation so I'm hopeful. That's good information R_C.
If these rascals do produce seed as prolifically as the specimen I saw at the BG, I'll have tons of seed to share with individuals interested in this plant. This is a bonus because the collection data on these plants suggest they were collected by A. Hofmann in Oaxaca, Sierra Madre Oriental, 1962. So this offspring has some collectible significance as in 1962, Hofmann and Wasson were guided by the famous shaman Maria Sabina as they explored the Mexican rainforest searching for potential medicines.
So if these things produce seed and the collection data isn't a croc, these plants could be an interesting addition to any Convolvulaceae enthusiast's collection. R_C, thanks for your input, and if you have any suggestions as to how a relative novice such as myself might improve seed production, it would be greatly appreciated.
best,
don
drdon - sent you a DM...
Weren't Hoffman and Wasson a couple of anthropolgists on a quest to track down plant substances with hallcinogenic properties?
hiya jmorth,
good to see you.
They were indeed on a bit of a quest to find psychotropic plants and fungi. Hofmann, in particular was looking for a remedy for migraine headaches. It turns out a lot of their work was morphed into a pseudo-scientific reason for some to catch a buzz, but I'm still holding out naive faith that they were truly on a scientific expedition and not some Carlos Castenada type journey inside the head...lol.
best,
don
Magic Mushrooms??? lol..
A law abiding eyebrow raises on my inner mycologist. Yes they did a lot of interesting stuff over at Sandoz in those days. But Maria Sabina and her ancestors had been healing illness with "The Little Ones" for many centuries before the Colonial and Caucasian perversion of the true medicinal properties in order to catch a buzz and make a buck.
best,
don
he who continually shaves the inside of his skull to check for residue from the seventies.
Truly and well said drdon.
I concur.
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