OT - Texas hoya nut goes to Hawaii!

League City, TX(Zone 9a)

Sorry it took me so long to respond to Carol's thread. Have had a few puny feeling days since the flight west, duh, I mean EAST. Jet lag and sinus problems. But here we are....sun bunnies in Kona on the west coast of the big island. Will be adding to this as the evening goes along. I have a few hoya photos that will make you drool. My buddy Carol is da hoya sistah and I am missing her company already! I have some photo's of her friend Glen's garden and I have to post one as it is just unbelievable.

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League City, TX(Zone 9a)

I felt like "Alice in Hoyaland" on the trip to Ted Greens. Mind you, I was trying to drive and sight see at the same time. I forgot how stunning the island of Oahu is as it had been many years since my last trip. I think I can speak for both Carol and me that the trip to visit Ted Green was just so much fun. His property, the hoya and the orchids are just beautiful. The best part is that he's just a regular guy with a great sense of humor. Looking back, I wish I would have just chained myself to the railing on his porch.

Oh yes, I can't reveal the details but I saw someone much more exotic than Micah the Fed Ex driver on our trip to Oahu. Woohoo!

Here's what we saw from our hotel room window.. This is Waikiki...ugly as heck compared to the rest of the island.

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League City, TX(Zone 9a)

H. c.v. Ruthie growing and blooming in a natural habitat. I couldn't quit shaking my head in wonder at the hoya growing around trees and fences at Carol's and her friends gardens.

Ted Green said to be careful throwing cuttings over the fence. He had H. aff. fraterna (?)growing like jungle vines up trees on the "wild" side of his chain link fence.

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League City, TX(Zone 9a)

H. imperialis buds starting to open. This plant was growing wild up a tree. Buds dangling in your face as you walked by.

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Prescott, AZ

Susan,
Don't ya hate that when ya get buds in your eye!! That Ruthie would have been my down fall, thats where I would have chained myself. How darn fun. Come on now, out with the details on the tropical sighting...

Keaau, HI(Zone 11)

Hey NB...great photos!!! You gotta post more. Ya know, there was a rainbow over the airport terminal when you were waiting for your plane and I was driving to pick Bob up. It must follow you around!!!

Just got the hoyas we ordered from Ted Green, they are potted up and on the propagation mats! They were generous and healthy...the H. albiflora had to umbels in flower and the flowers are smaller than my H. aff. albiflora which I took to him.

OH? Who (what) did you see on the trip to Oahu? You holding out on me?

HAHAHA - it was SUCH fun! I like the picture of the two Sun Bunnies in Kona!!!

Carol



Prescott, AZ

Oh now come on, Carol I use that excuse all the time........You girls spill it..

Chowchilla, CA(Zone 10a)

Hey you party animals... I wanna see more proof of your wild and happy times (post more pics)!
Ann

League City, TX(Zone 9a)

Here's the newest party animal...my friend Louise....and me walking through Paradise.
Wild was....walking the dogs in the dark with nothing except the moonlight and stars to light our way. Fun and scary. Try it on a half gallon of wine. Not easy. TG there aren't any snakes in Hawaii.

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League City, TX(Zone 9a)

Carol - a.k.a. Hoya Pimp's greenhouse. Talk about fun. Walking through here was a treat. So many beautiful hoya that I had never seen or seen in bloom. Nice in the late afternoon and at night with the lights on and some tunes on the radio. Had a hard time finding the source of something blooming as it was dark. When I finally came up with it.....H. cv. Sunrise....what an awesome scent. Strong and clean. beautiful......

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League City, TX(Zone 9a)

Carol's friend Glen has one acre packed solid with tropical plants. He's been working on it for 20 years. Plush....very very plush!
This is his lily pond. You can look out the window in his living room onto this scene. Fantastic....

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Las Vegas, NV

Wow, talk about lush, green and beautiful. Great pictures, thanks for sharing them. It would be great to grow plants like that. You are really Blessed Carol. Susan you are also Blessed to be able to go and visit Hoya Pimpville in Hawaii. Deb

Keaau, HI(Zone 11)

Susan taught me a new joy: working in the GH at night with insufficient lighting and a couple of sips of wine! My shins will never recover! And the scents were awesome. We actually got a lot done (none of it important but, what the heck....we had fun).

Glen's garden is awesome. Narrow paths thru his property are carpeted with the detrius of his pruning....so it is like a cushion and NO WEEDS. He collects rare and unusual...travels with the department of agriculture and is a great cook. He is my next best date after Bob!!! Bob doesn't do movies, markets and stuff...Glen does. So...guess who I go to events with!?

Chowchilla, CA(Zone 10a)

OK, after seeing the picture of Glen's place, I have concluded that if he is not gay or married, I may be in love! How coan you go wrong with a green-thumbed, movie-loving, guy who will go shopping with you? Zowweeee.
Send more pictures of everything!!! I really love to see those hoyas of Carols just climbing wildly up the trees. Did you get pictures of green stuff while at Ted Greens?
Ann

Macon, IL(Zone 5b)

Oh my gosh, what a paradise!! And I'm talking about Carol's greenhouse!! Glad you guys had such a wonderful visit! Karen

Los Angeles, CA(Zone 9a)

Wow, Glenn's set up looks so inviting. Just gorgeous. I'm green with envy. Just wondering, Ted Green has so many hoyas for sale yet he only has two ratings, has anyone here ordered from him? Great pictures Susan.
Heather

Winnipeg, MB(Zone 4a)

Oh my! What wonderful pictures and memories you have! Looks like you had a wonderful and relaxing time. Glen's yard definitely looks like it's in a conservatory.....awesome!!
:) Donna

Trelleborg, Sweden

When I see photos like the one of Glen's garden it feels like I live in the North Pole... sigh of envy...

Christina

Keaau, HI(Zone 11)

Here is a photo I found in my camera of Susan tramping around having planted something...hoyas growing on trees, big Brugmansia on the right.

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Huntsville, AL(Zone 7a)

~~ big sigh ~~ Will Work For Plants!!!!

Barb

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Is that not paradise?? another ~~~big sigh~~~!

Mt Zion, IL(Zone 5b)

I would think I'd died and gone to heaven! Oh how awesome!
Hey, where's your wine?! Got a flask on ya or somethin'?! =)

League City, TX(Zone 9a)

I'm still going through all the photos to rename them and save in a smaller format. Here's a photo of one tiny corner of Carol's beautiful garden. I miss her and the beauty of the land.

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Keaau, HI(Zone 11)

Wow...beautiful! Sure looks good. Can't see any weeds!!!! Of course, the weeds add to the charm, right?

Well, we miss Susan. Louise (sister of Thelma and our CBR/Lab duo brown one) still goes into Susan's room looking for her...... Louise would make a great Sorority Mom...she loves women!!!

:>)

OT-Carol, Sometime tell us about your year on the boat, where you travelled, etc.
and how you decided to settle in Hawaii because I know that you lived in Virginia at one point of your life.

Susan

Keaau, HI(Zone 11)

OK...will post something on the website...when I get it written. Yes, lived in VA and in MD and around DC because my father was Navy... Thanks for the query...will let you know when I get it done. Fighting some stomach bug at the moment and feel like the cat's breakfast!

Carol

League City, TX(Zone 9a)

Yes please, Kalola, talk story for us.

Keaau, HI(Zone 11)

It was a dark and stormy night...... :>)

Prescott, AZ

LOL Kalola....

Keaau, HI(Zone 11)

...and believe me...we had many many dark and stormy nights in the middle of the ocean!!! LOL. But it was fun! When I was younger (note: "er") I watch a beautiful sailboat glide into a bay in France at sunset - she had a mahogany hull and tanbark (matching the hull) sails, was a retired 12 meter racer. At THAT moment I decided I was going to sail around the world!

At 40 I remembered this dream that had been side burner for 20 years and decided I had better get hopping. I got my Padi License and started to learn how to sail (again) by signing up to crew on ANY boat any where. There were some dillies!!! And my learning curve was straight up. The last 10 years I raced on a 43' IOR boat and learned alot. So, at 50 I met Bob who had just finished sailing around the world ...and the rest is history. I told him...can we go around the world? And he said..."Let me make some money first - I'm broke". 3 years later we were married and bought our boat. In 1994 we took off from Seattle.

Covering this here because the 'sailing' starts. Up to this point it was HARD work, outfitting the boat, varnishing, painting, etc. I quit work (career) a week before we left.

I never do anything @50%.

Carol

Trelleborg, Sweden

Hi
oh Carol so beautiful photos from Hawaii. I wish I was there now because we got alittle bit of snow today. Our winther is coming now. Brr
Take care
Rosita

Ha, Ha, our Carol is really a wild child! I thought you and Bob sailed around the world together, I didn't realize that is how you met him.

Keaau, HI(Zone 11)

Yep!...except we didn't get around the world...OH Heck...might as well tell it here.

We left Seattle April 15, 1994 and followed Spring up thru British Columbia, Queen Charlotte Island, Alaska (the OUTSIDE...not the windless Inside Passage) up to Glacier Bay. Then we sailed across the Gult of Alaska to Prince William Sound, the Kenai Penninsula (we managed to sail across a morain into a bay with 7 calving glaciers and we drifted with the ice for a wonderful hour with Brandenberg Concerto full blast on the Stereo...)...then to Kodiak island. This was now August and with all the Fishermen's warnings...we left by the 15th of August and sailed to San Francisco. The only bad weather was off the coast of Oregon!!!

Alaska is just to magnificent for words!!! Especially when seen and experienced off the beaten path (if you can imagine there IS one up there). The fishermen are all kind and helpful, the wildlife extraordinary...eating freshly caught crab and fish, clams, mussels every day...yes...cold a lot of the time. In May we had snow on the deck!! Biggest thrill was daylight at 3a.m. with a Sei Whale cruising alongside the boat within 20'...we just hoped that he wasn't falling in love. After staying with us for about 1/2 hour he swam off...but it was a close up experience.

From SF, we day sailed down the coast of California, putting into a bay or cove everynight to anchor. From San Diege we sailed down to Baja California where I had my first experience with dolphins....especially early in the morning they would play with us, scooting up along side the boat, reaching 10' in the air....sometimes hundreds of them.

Well, Mexico was Mexico...crowded bays full of cruising yanks creating their little subcultures there....we passed on down to Guatemala, Nicaragua, Costa Rica and then Panama where we spent some time (weeks) getting ready for our long trip down to Chile with a few stops in between. Panama was interesting...I crewed on a couple of boats, helping to take them thru the Panama Canal...a fascinating trip on a sailboat all locked into a space with tankers, tugs, cruise ships...talk about being dwarfed. I had read a couple of books on the Panama Canal (The Path Between Two Seas) and the whole adventure had real meaning to me.

Our last ADVENture in Panama was sailing up the Darien Region...on a river. Now...the first thing about sailboats is that you don't take them up very tidal rivers. We did! No charts...just reading the river...finding a hole to anchor in at night and then taking the dinghy at low tide and finding the chanels. We knew big boats/ships went up there...so we were going too! The town was so small that we were asked to move our boat, anchored just off the airstrip....they were afraid the planes would hit our mast. We ventured up the river 40 miles with 2 other boats... Never again!! We sailed down the coast...alive...to Ecuador. Always, when we could, we traveled a lot from larger ports like Guatemala and Ecuador. A pressman at the company where I worked before leaving Seattle had relatives in the town where we stopped (Manta) so we saw some wonderful things and had a home. The great adventure was traveling to see friends of friends. It took us: 3 bus rides, a ride in a milk truck, another ride in a pickup, crossing a river and a 4 hour hike to get to them...way out in the boonies...but beautiful!!! Toucans flying overhead, swimming in the headwaters of a large river...and yes, snakes.

TTYL

Macon, IL(Zone 5b)

More, Carol, more...Karen

Prescott, AZ

and then......she asked, reclined in her office chair, one eye on the daylily database, the other glued to the hoya forum. Where to next?

Chowchilla, CA(Zone 10a)

More, Carol, MORE!!!!
Ann

Keaau, HI(Zone 11)

OK...heheheh...glad I have some audience. I am a sucker for audiences, as you may have noticed!

Anyway, half the year the wind blows across Manta and out to sea, the other half it reverses. We were there when the dirt, grime, oil, animal/human waste dirt was blown across the harbor. Our white boat was black, our lines, halyards (all the ropes) were black (on one side)...it was horrible. Our last day in port we spent the day tied up to the rickety old wharf filling buckets with fresh water to dunk everything in....(the port water was simply sewage so we couldn't use that)....and we left on a 2 hour trip to an island off the coast where we would clean up the boat and REST! From THAT little bay we sailed down to Chile... 29 days at sea.

OH...we saw life... First a Colombian navy vessel hailed us in the middle of the night (my sleep time) and demanded to know why we were in THEIR WATERS without authorization. Smiling sweetly in my best Spanish I told them we were just silly stupid Americans and please forgive us.... They claim territorial waters 300 miles offshort. That was scary. Then we went thru a Colombian fishing fleet all sleeping...boats bobing along, no one saw us but we saw them on the radar....and in the morning a huge outboard fiberglass boat with 3 tough dudes and 'cargo' came alongside 300 miles offshort and wanted cigarettes. I whispered up to Bob how to say "bugger off" in Spanish as I handed him the shotgun.... they peeled off out to sea...never heard from them again.

We had beautiful idyllic weather...couldn't have asked for better. We made landfall JUST where we wanted to and managed to catch the beginning of the flooding tide thru the channel into the southern channels of Patagonia...its a good thing, too...as the current runs at 9 - 14 knots (a little less in mph) in AND out...

Landfall. The sweet SWEET smell of land, grasses, trees. Southern Chile could be Devonshire, England, with the hedgerows and sheep and cattle grazing on rolling green pastures.... We were enthralled by Chile, the Chileans and eveything about this wonderful area - after Alaska, one of our favorites! We spent 18 months in Chile sailing thru Patagonia in their summers, meeting local folks who became good friends and enjoying our life there. I could go on for hours about S. Chile!!! Suffice to say we knew it was time to leave when we considered buying an island (cheap!!!), 400 acres, BIG FAT trout in the streams and only 6 hours by boat from civilization which is a euphemism for 300 people and a church.

Our families in Chile were the fleet of Cod Fishermen who warned us of bad weather when the official forcase ignored it, brought us fresh fish. We acted as medical consultants to isolated people (called the Chilean Navy for help) and dispensed what medications we could. We traded applesauce bread for tons of crab...spent a day pressing apples to made moonshine on a small island...

While in Chile we land traveled to Peru and Bolivia... And we left Chile in February, reluctantly...on our way out, just off the coast, we came upon a Blue Whale, basking on the surface....surprised us both. Next landfall would be Robinson Crusoe Island, Easter Island, Pitcairn and finally Mangareva in the southern Australs.

Gotta make dinner.... TTFN.

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Prescott, AZ

How darn fun, but yet frightning at the same time. I would have done something in my pants if a colombian ship hailed me in the middle of the night. :0 girl ya got guts..... How did you do with the storms and isolation?

Keaau, HI(Zone 11)

Ah...tune in...isolation was no problem...none at all. Storms...well, avoided them when we could but sometimes old Nellie Nature has other ideas. We had a saying "whether it's cold or whether it's hot we're going to have weather whether or not". True...true.

Will talk about storms later....but isolation was curious:

I left a successful job in sales. 3 days before we left, I landed the second largest printing account in the Pacific NW...no one could believe I walked away from all the commissions (headaches, middle of the night press checks, acid reflux etc.). Money...not important. Me? Very important. But out where God left his flipflops, on a boat where DH called the shots and I cooked and cleaned...I felt very ..."pink" (pink jobs and blue jobs). It bothered me. I had no recognition (commissions, clients needing me etc.) and no sense of ME. So, Bob put me in charge of the Weather. Right!!! BFD! So, I started a crash course, self taught, on reading weather maps, talking to boats, ships etc. about weather....and I got rather good. I made the decisions about where we went and when...(power...a heady drug). So, I listened to single sideband radio and VHF a lot. This was my connex with the world.

In the meantime, listening to radio (singlesideband and vhf close at hand) I made friends. Out in the middle of the ocean I could call up Max in Sebastapol and he would patch me in to my son in Bellingham, or my sister or my friend in Seattle. I listened to fishing boats talking....'nets' (like a forum) would have radio schedules and we would talk to eachother every day, exchange information, stories etc. It was family. We were never alone.

I remember one day sitting in the cockpit in the vast middle of the ocean en route to Chile...not a breath of wind. We were motoring ...there wasn't a mark on the water, yet there was an ever so quiet and subtle movement to the sea...as far as the eye could see. I thought to myself...'this ocean never sleeps, she is breathing'...the water only changed heights of about2" but it was obvious. Except ;for the motor...it was still. When I am feeling harrassment or crowded, I go back to that place.

Another time in some bouncy seas with a lot of wind, a tiny yellow finch was blown onto the boat...we were 300 miles from the Galapagos and he dropped in. He hopped about the boat, totally unafraid of us or the boat, went below, looked for insects, and came out again. He slept in my lap for about an hour and tried to fly off ....and soon was back again. I felt so badly for him...obviously he was blown off course and was trying so hard to get back on schedule. Finally he left for the 3rd time and we never saw him again. We named him Fred.

I, the gregarious salesperson typeA personality drank in the isolation and quiet like a parched camel at a river. It was exquisite!

One place in Chile we were in a cove, inside a bay, inside another bay, tied down with 2 anchors out and 4 lines ashore tied to trees while storm after storm after storm came thru. After the 2nd day we stopped talking and just read our books, after the 6th day the paints came out and after the 10th day, I hid anything pointed!!! HAHAHA...just kidding. But we really didn't need to talk...we played music, we rread and we went crazy. It's very simple. After day 12 the wind stopped and we went out in the dingy for a tour around the place...no where to land, no where to walk, 100' cliffs all around...back to the boat, back to 14 sq. ft. of floor space. Life was simple. I would call up the Chilean Navy guys on the radio who were as bored as I was (they were on radio duty) and we would exchange recipes, tell jokes.... We visited an isolated Lighthouse on the coast once...amazing. After a horrendous trip thru the bay to the dock...we had to walk 5 miles to the lighthouse...the Oxen couldn'tget thru because of the landslides.

I learned how blessed we are to have what we do and to live where we do. I learned how blessed they are with no TV, no traffic, no commercials. Life without commercials is so REAL....better than drugs/wine/coffee, any day!!!

Isolation...? I learned who I AM and I learned to like myself (not much choice...I was all I had!!!). I also learned to beat my husband at Scrabble which made me delighted! We went places in Chile and in Fiji where no boats had ever been....we found beautiful places to anchor that we told the Navy about and we were able to give them names: Caleta Snibs (Bob's Mother), Caleta Elyxir (our boat), Estero Capt. Jack (my father). In Fiji we got special permission from the President of Fiji (thru the Chilean Ambassador to NZ whom I met at a bank in Tahiti and we all became good friends) to sail to the Lau group...a group of islands speaking their own version of Fijian, with their own history and very protected by the government. We sailed into villages never visited before...became part of the island life, were never asked for anything but were given everything. If I got bored I would go ashore and 'hang' with the women who wanted to know all about my life like I wanted to know abut theirs...their kids were terified of me at first. We would go to the cement wash area and wash clothes (BroshieBroshie in Fijian)....a cement slab, a stiff bristle brush and lots of harsh detergent....whites were WHITE. They were the top choir in all the country wide competitions so we washed clothes singing "Rock of Ages", 'She'll be Comin around the Mountain" and other old hymns in Fijian!!! Their harmony was natuaral...no instruments. We were invited to church and sat up at the altar with the preacher and given hymn books to sing from ....in Fijean...and they all thought we spoke the language. How can you miss? Onward Chrisian Soldiers in a monosyllabic language....we really impressed them!!! Everything was so simple. So uncomplicated. So basic. So real.

OH, I edited this to say that my FAVORITE was Amazing Grace....I still get chicken skin when I hear the remembered voices singing in perfect harmony...and when 4 or 5 would start...the whole village would join in....and it was Amazing Grace.

The first big supermarket we went to was in Panama and I had a list and off Iwent. I came home with nothing. I couldn't decide. Too many choices. I just wanted (for instance) olives and wanted the olives on the shelf...not a choice of 4 sizes, 16 brands, 5 colors....you get the picture.

Off to bed...TTYL

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Harrisburg, PA(Zone 6a)

Thank you, thank you, AlohaHoya(Carol) so much!!! I think I ordered some hoyas from you. I have been 'lurking' watching this forum since I joined and It is one of the interesting, enjoyable and maybe the most enoyable!! 8>)

Please continue, I have become addicted to your story!

Larry

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