I hope I am spelling that correctly. I only had one seed and thankfully it sprouted. No blooms yet, but I just hit it with a shot of fert. so maybe soon. I has grown quite aggressively and is threatening to take over my porch. It is climbing all over the place. The leaves are fairly large and the lower stems are quite woody.
If this flowers, and produces seed, could we trade? :)
I can't find a single bit of info on these so I'm curious.
-Zem
I cant either and perhaps I misspell it. Ron? Help me out here.
Lisa - I'm responding to your SOS...The Ipomoea species known by the Zapotec spanish name "Quebraplata" was obtained by me over 10 years ago...The name means "Broken Plate" and was collected from the area of Santilliani in Southern Mexico...the seeds are the size of large moonflower seeds and pitch black in color...the plant is a rare as of yet unidentified Ipomoea species that is suppossed to produce a large white flower,and as Lisa has duly noted ,is a large(!) vine...The flower may be fragrant...we will see...
I usually do not try to grow large tropical vines that will not fare well in my area,so I have given out a couple seeds from my very small supply,to several people over the years who live in warmer areas to see if they could get the plant going...Lisa is the first one to have successfully sprouted the seed and nourish a plant from the single seed that she was provided with...I am thankful for her assistance in helping to grow this specimen out and providing some photos of the plants parts to aid in identification...The plant may even have some interesting flowers,but no further details about this plant are known...so it will be a surprise to everyone when it flowers...The descriptor of 'Broken Plate' is suppossed to be an allusion to the flower...your guess may be as good as mine...
Cheers...
This message was edited Apr 17, 2006 11:21 AM
Wow, I will be watching THIS thread! Pretty darn exciting stuff!
I have this one and the wallichi growing together on the porch. While the Quer. is growing faster, the wallichi's leaves are twice the size , they a huge!
rylaff. you spell it wrong. Its "Quebra Plata" with only one R. googled it, but ended up with spanish documents. also: thoth777's Trade Lists: ipomea Sp. "Quebra plata" (convulvulaceae). Under Wanted.
janett
I feel a trip to Mexico comming on!!!!
PlatO :means plate as what you eat on.
PlatA: refers to silver and slang for mucho dinero
Janett
Hello Everybody,
I obtained the seeds from the people who collected it ...the name spelling were provided to me by them,with the qualification that it was >Zapotec Spanish< which is known to differ in ways from Spanish Proper..The Zapotec Spanish most often contains admixtures of local Zapotec slang,the exact meaning may only be known to the local inhabitants...
I have had 'some' corresponded with thoth777 in the past,and you may wish to inquire with him as to the source of his information,where he obtained his information and what his particular interest in MG is focused on,...he had a particular interest in 'Rivea' corymbosa and Ipomoea 'violacea'...a glance at the other type of plants on his have and want list may be of some referential value...
Just sharing from my experience of this plant,but anyone is free to add or subtract from the information I've provided...your free thoughts are you own...
I'm really looking forward to the aesthetic features of this plant...
Cheers,
This message was edited Oct 10, 2005 6:36 PM
Santilliana is in spain. there is however a Santillana in the northern area of the Zapotec people. the most famous of the zapotecs speaking people was the spanish president Benito Juarez. Lived 1806-1872 and served two presidential periods 1861-63 and 1867-72. the worlds most known zapotec speaking persons today is Maria Sabina a Mazatec shaman. Mazatec belongs to the Zapotec.
The only other meaning in the zapotec spanish is refering still to silver, they sometimes use it when they are refering to a big flat silvery surfaces or mirrorlike surface.
Zapotec can sometimes also be spelled with a K in the end. Sapotek or Zapotec
The info on Toth I directly copied from his wanted list
I remember reading about Maria Sabina and Gordon Wassons visit with her when I was back in grammar school...I'm surprised to hear that she would even still be alive...Maybe the name could refer to a broken mirror...I wondered if the plant could look like the Ipomoea santilianii here
http://www.cs.umb.edu/~whaber/Monte/Plant/Conv/Ipo-blu-cal.html
but I was told that the flower was large and not a moonflower...Time will tell...
Maria was, atleast last year live and kicking and going towards 100 years
Will be interesting to watch. It has been interesting watching thea. wallichii and the quierbraplata attempt to take over my porch. While the wallichi has huge leaves, the quierbraplata is growing much much faster. Heaven help us now that I have hit them each with a shot of phos.
I bet Maria eats strickly 'wild'(!) Organic food...
Lisa,now don't chicken out on me with growing out the 'feisty' MG's...
My back yard is like a jungle. If it gets any worse, I am going to have to take a machete just to get out there and water the plants.
That's what Florida is suppossed to be like,isn't it...it's the only place in the contiguous states where there are bonafide American crocodiles...it's 'suppossed'(!) to be a jungle(!) out there...you've got to stay in 'harmony' with your environment...'jungle' type MG's...you 're in tune (!)...
If you catch me swinging from vine to vine, remind me that I am in harmony.
You've got some Maureen O'Sullivan in ya'...let it rip(!)...Ungawa(!)..Ungawa(!)
This message was edited Oct 12, 2005 12:05 AM
I believe I have the same thing growing in my porch. I remember finding a seed I dropped and jut put it in this pot. I am going to try to keep it going throughout the winter, my window gets full sun most of the day. I believe I may have another one outside in a pot, if it ever stops raining I will post a pic of that one too. Do you think it will flower inside? Should I put it under artificial lights or just keep it on the windowsill?
Wow...those are huge leaves!
:) Donna
The leaves look different. If you look at rylaffs, the veines looks different. On yours luvsgrtdanes the veins sits opposite to eatch other, weils on rylaffs the not. Also the end of each vein on rylaffs curvs singelhanded down towards the top of the leaves, whiles yours luvsgrtdanes can seen be splited.
Cant speek about the stem becourse I havent the foggiest of how it should look :0)
But I think both plants look gorgeous.
Janett
edit to ask whats the english word when veins and leaves dont sit opposite to each other.
This message was edited Oct 14, 2005 4:58 PM
What do you think I have?
Dont know what plant it is. Cant you put it id Identification forum, someone maybe knows there.
Janett
